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Pokémon Black & White Print Run

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[TL;DR: Please post the contents of a fresh pack of cards here in the exact order you found it in, listing them by the card number (and NOT the card name) as well as noting if it's a common, foil, rare, uncommon or PTCGO advertisement card. Thanks!]

[FYI: This post has nothing to do with box pull ratios but the order cards are packaged in and the tournament value of that data.]

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Howdy y'all!

Back in the day I did a print run for Gym Challenge, which many people found to be quite useful (just as much as Magic: the Gathering print runs are). So in the spirit of that, as well as my way of trying to become relevant in the Pokémon TCG community again, I've decided to record the (common?) print run for Black & White... which hopefully isn't something that someone else already does.

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WAIT, WHAT IS A PRINT RUN?:

When cards are printed and put into sealed packs by Nintendo, the cards aren't actually randomized but instead placed in a specific order which APPEARS randomized. Knowing this order helps players in pass drafts, as knowing the print run will allow a player to know which cards the previous player(s) took, allowing you to be conscious of what the other players are doing. For example, if you notice that all the Tepigs were removed by the time a pack is passed to you, then you can be sure someone is building a draft deck using an Emboar.

Apparently it's also possible to determine what rares were in a pack according to the commons, but I'm not sure about that. Likewise, Uncommons follow a print run similar to the commons, but at three cards per pack, it's slightly more difficult to determine who took what.

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SO HOW CAN YOU HELP OUT?:

In order for this to work, I would like to be able to get some help from the community! Helping me is very simple, all you need to do is list the contents of your pack in the EXACT ORDER you found them when you opened your pack.

Furthermore, if you can list the NUMBER of the card--NOT the card's NAME--as well as mention which one was the foil, rare, uncommons, and whether or not it had a "Pokémon TCG Online Open Beta" advertisement card, then that would be most appreciated.

An example of an ideal pack listing is:
* 58 33 110 66 2 / 36 / 73 & / 101 38 72
* The first five are the commons, separated by a slash, followed by the foil card, another slash, the rare card, an "&" symbol denoting the PTCGO advertisement card (which could come before or after the rare), followed by a final separating slash and the last three uncommons.
* Also, your pack may or may not have the Pokémon TCG Online advertisement card. If it doesn't, then just leave the reference to it out of your listing.

It doesn't HAVE to look like this, all that matters is that the pack is listed in the EXACT ORDER you found it in a fresh pack.

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AND FINALLY....

Post as many or as little as you wish, even if you only got one packs. (I mean, that one pack could be the one that brings the whole print run together!) ... You can also message/email me with your pack listing. It probably won't take long to get the entire common print run recorded; I only bought like 18 packs and managed to find a lot of patterns!

Thanks very much for your help, and hopefully we can continue working on recording the (common?) print runs for future sets from here on out!! :)

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MY PACK DATA FOR STARTERS:

As you can tell from the data below, patterns have already started to emerge. For example, the common cards number 23, 74, 50, 81 and 16 appear in two separate packs, and another pack has the common cards number 2, 100, 78, 23 and 74, implying that the common cards number 2, 100 and 78 come before the common cards number 23, 74, 50, 81 and 16.

Likewise, the uncommon cards number 101, 38 and 72 appear in two different packs, while two different sets of uncommons are linked by two cards: uncommon cards number 99, 98 and 8 and uncommon cards number 98, 8 and 92.

The patterns are in there, and the more packs that everyone can record and share, the closer we'll come to finally recording the entire (common?) print run.

And finally, if anyone else has any tips, tricks and ideas for this print run, like how someone can tell what kind of rare you're getting based on reading the common, then that would be most appreciated. :) THANKS EVERYONE FOR HELPING OUT!!!

* 23 74 50 81 16 / 22 / 12 / 79 34 96
* 68 104 112 63 9 / 93 / 62 / 48 56 95
* 2 100 78 23 74 / 69 / 10 / 97 85 17
* 27 107 59 84 88 / 87 / 57 / 98 8 92
* 13 81 52 23 41 / 80 / 25 / 72 102 103
* 36 100 74 21 58 / 31 / 114 / 103 22 85
* 104 81 23 1 13 / 59 / 47 / 99 98 8
* 111 80 1 59 36 / 98 / 89 & / 102 24 92
* 81 16 52 93 70 / 6 / 25 & / 11 90 94
* 2 68 27 107 59 / 53 / & 20 / 92 11 87
* 23 74 50 81 16 / 70 / 69 & / 97 51 103
* 40 1 59 15 9 / 35 / & 76 / 11 87 97
* 58 33 110 66 2 / 36 / 73 & / 101 38 72
* 27 88 104 58 33 / 26 / 54 & / 97 85 60
* 100 78 23 74 50 / 40 / & 57 / 75 102 24
* 110 66 2 100 78 / 69 / 10 & / 17 90 75
* 21 68 45 109 55 / 93 / 67 & / 87 51 99
* 93 106 80 9 41 / 58 / 62 / 103 90 48
* 45 13 44 55 50 / 91 / 39 / 101 38 72
 
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Update!

After a few new packs as a few people giving me their pack layouts, here's a small update:

* 55 50 58 27 68 / 64 / 91 & / 99 11 90
* 44 84 28 55 104 / 8 / & 47 99 35 60
* 27 107 59 84 88 / 54 / 37 & / 95 42 56
* 41 111 80 1 59 / 103 / 89 & / 103 22 85
* 66 93 70 21 78 / 56 / 69 & / 4 97 85
* 1 59 36 84 45 / 2 / & 20 / 30 75 99
* 78 44 100 63 16 / 81 / 73 & / 101 8 87
* 84 21 68 45 109 / 11 / & 113 / 22 35 60
* 27 88 104 58 33 / 49 / 62 & / 79 53 48
* 40 16 105 44 84 / 92 / 12 & / 95 8 101
* 100 74 21 58 7 / 10 / & 114 / 18 82 53
* 93 70 21 78 33 / 101 / 86 & / 102 103 38
* 55 104 81 23 1 / 8 / 54 & / 101 24 87
* 21 78 33 2 40 / 87 / 83 & / 79 34 96
* 33 40 93 28 66 / 1 / 61 & / 99 35 60
* 84 45 13 44 55 / 17 / 89 & / 4 85 60
* 40 93 28 66 104 / 14 / 62 / 4 85 60

As soon as I get to a computer with Excel on it, I can start organizing these numbers and producing some chains of numbers on it for people to use.

I've also noticed that maybe TPC might be a little wise to people possibly using the Print Run data to get an advantage to the more sharper players and thus have thrown in a LOT of the same cards in various slots, thus potentially making memorizing the print run a very difficult thing. For example, card number 44 appears in at least three different slots; that is to say, card number 44 has been followed by cards number 84, 100 and 55, and possibly more. This could make it difficult for someone to memorize the print run, at least confuse a player in that they would think "er, so there's card #44... but which one did the previous player(s) take? 84, 100 or 55??" This, in turn, will make it a bit more time consuming for me to pull this data together, just because it's going to be suuuuuuper long (maybe even longer than the Gym Challenge Print Run I did back in the day).... Only time will tell!

Anyways, keep 'em coming guys! Just remember to keep your packs in order so you can help compile the Black/White Print Run!! Thanks again!
 
Unfortunately, I saw this after my brother and I opened our first box.

I think we're getting a second one with some of my league members, so I will try to record our pack layouts for you.

Nice to see you around here again, man :)
 
Unfortunately, I saw this after my brother and I opened our first box.

I think we're getting a second one with some of my league members, so I will try to record our pack layouts for you.

Nice to see you around here again, man :)

Alreet, that'll be awesome. Thanks! And there's no real RUSH for anyone to record their pack layouts... but then again, I'm sure we'll be seeing Black/White packs used in pass drafts a lot over the next year or so, and so I'm sure this data will prove to be very useful for players for some time now. :)

Oh and, hey, I'm glad to be back! I've always been looking for a way back into the game, and I'm glad that Black/White is as good as it is. :)
 
I don't know about 'print run' but as far as foils go there is typically a pattern in which the packs with foils fall. After I open 1 box of a set I can typically pinpoint every pack with a foil after that. Sometimes it varies from case to case though. But, if I buy 1 6-box booster case, generally all 6 boxes have the same pattern.

Here's my proof http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azcafBZ6q7I
 
I'm looking forward to seeing what your guy's box have in store!

Here's the current data laid out in Excel: http://www.fakecard.com/images/bw.printrun.gif

As you can see, there are already some major chains that have been revealed, with many packs showing common intersections. The packs which only intersect at two points (versus three, four or even five points) are ones that I'm not 100% confident about, but hopefully other people's pack listings will help corroborate or revise those questionable intersections. We can only wait and see!
 
I don't know about 'print run' but as far as foils go there is typically a pattern in which the packs with foils fall. After I open 1 box of a set I can typically pinpoint every pack with a foil after that. Sometimes it varies from case to case though. But, if I buy 1 6-box booster case, generally all 6 boxes have the same pattern.

Here's my proof http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azcafBZ6q7I

Interesting. So usually the pattern will be the same even in boxes from different cases, is that what you are saying?
 
Interesting. So usually the pattern will be the same even in boxes from different cases, is that what you are saying?

No...I think it varies from case to case. I watched a couple other youtube box breaks and they didn't seem to follow the same pattern as my boxes. However, those boxes didn't have beta codes so MAYBE all boxes/cases with beta codes have the same pattern for holos...not sure yet.
 
No...I think it varies from case to case. I watched a couple other youtube box breaks and they didn't seem to follow the same pattern as my boxes. However, those boxes didn't have beta codes so MAYBE all boxes/cases with beta codes have the same pattern for holos...not sure yet.

I see. Well, I'll let you know if my 2nd box (with beta codes) seems to match up or not.

Thanks!
 
Okey, Black/White print run data has been updated. http://www.fakecard.com/images/20110515.tcg.bw.gif

There's still a couple packs which don't seem to fit... maybe these parts of the print run is location dependent? That is to say, maybe the packs sent to my area were mostly of the type that I have a lot of, while packs sent elsewhere are more of the type that I have the least of? I wonder why this is....?
 
Am I the only one that finds this annoying? When I buy a box, I want to hope for great pulls. However, within reason, every single box will have average pulls... i.e. you will get both full arts in a box, a certain number of holos, etc.
 
* 50 58 27 68 104 / 13 / 43 & / 102 24 92

First pack from the new box I got; rest of the packs to be opened later.

I can also say that my TCGO-code inclusive box does not have the same Holo/FA/Non-holo order as menoknow's case, lol. Was worth a check though
 
OH boy boy oh boy! I can't wait to see what you guys get! :D

BTW TR4Life, that pack you posted connected one of my single pack stragglers (that is, the one pack that had yet to find a home while most packs have!) Thanks! :D
 
If the rares cannot be determined based on the commons, what exactly is the point? Just to understand the pattern? Its a very cool concept though.
 
If the rares cannot be determined based on the commons, what exactly is the point? Just to understand the pattern? Its a very cool concept though.

See, I'm not 100% sure about that, so there's only one way to find out.

But also, you can still infer what rare was taken by what commons were taken. By knowing that someone ahead of you has taken all the Tepigs from packs, then you can safely suspect that they may have an Emboar. And if they have an Emboar, it's a good bet that they may also have a Reshiram.

There may be plenty of other things one can infer about what someone else has taken... But the only way anyone is going to get any practice to know what can be inferred is by making these Print Runs available to players and see if anyone uses them. :)
 
Just got 3 packs today, here are my pulls:

* 21 45 109 55 40 / 64 / 91 / 90 94 92

* 27 68 104 112 63 / 55 / 26 / 42 56 96

* 68 21 45 109 55 / 57 / 65 / 53 48 95

Hope that helps ;)
 
One full box, packs listed in the order they were in the box.

Left side:
104 112 63 9 77/34 &/76/90 94 92
66 2 100 78 23/75/69 &/24 82 98
70 13 81 52 23/32 &/20/24 87 51
93 106 80 9 41/97/25 &/51 99 11
63 27 88 104 58/66/12 &/60 17 102
55 50 58 27 68/19/86 &/17 60 101
88 104 58 33 110/41 &/57/101 24 87
44 100 63 16 108/54/43 &/99 4 85
70 21 78 33 2/102/61 &/34 96 18
93 70 28 15 41/33 &/19/18 82 53
84 68 21 45 109/72/14 &/53 79 3
7 50 77 2 68/10 &/113/95 29 79
78 23 74 50 81/9/91 &/79 34 96
100 88 66 7 93/22/12 &/72 34 97
74 50 81 16 52/87/62 &/94 92 3
41 50 80 36 74/93 &/5/3 95 29
36 100 74 21 58/42/73 &/51 92 11
33 110 66 2 100/46/37 &/99 11 90

Right side:
33 40 93 28 66/60/46 &/48 56 42
15 41 111 80 1/37 &/71/103 90 48
40 16 105 44 84/15/39 &/48 56 95
111 80 1 59 36/98/54 &/64 18 96
55 40 1 59 15/20/73 &/82 53 98
27 107 59 84 88/91 &/47/98 103 90
16 52 93 70 28/1/83 &/94 103 29
66 2 100 78 23/58/86 &/35 101 8
16 108 70 13 81/95 &/65/8 87 30
44 55 50 58 27/18/43 &/101 38 72
1 13 45 15 52/30 &/114/22 97 64
50 58 27 68 104/38/69 &/64 35 101
88 104 58 33 110/78/89 &/60 95 8
104 78 44 100 63/12/25 &/102 38 94
59 36 84 45 13/85 &/20/94 22 97
28 55 104 81 23/24/67 &/99 22 35
84 45 13 44 55/101/10 &/56 95 42
9 77 7 63 27/89 &/6/42 102 38

VERY good box. :) 2 Cinccino (1 RH), 1 Zoroark, a RH Juniper, and a grand total of THREE Ability Emboars! Also, if it matters, the Zekrom was the grey one. (Box not from first run.)
 
Just got 3 packs today, here are my pulls: ... Hope that helps ;)

Actually it did! :) Thanks!

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One full box, packs listed in the order they were in the box.

OOOH, even better than what I was expecting. Having the pack contents is good enough, but knowing what their position was in the box was an unanticipated bonus. Thanks! (^_^)

---------- Post added 05/20/2011 at 01:51 AM ----------

OK, here's the updated print run... http://www.fakecard.com/images/20110519.tcg.bw.png

NOTES:
* The green main sequence may loop, or it may be attached to the beige sequence. I can't tell right now!
* If the green main sequence loops at 7 63 27, then where do all the other sequences fit in??
* OR, perhaps there are other sequences?
* I also find it very interesting that most of the packs come from that green main sequence, while the other sequences are lacking.
* Also curious is the frequency of certain sequences of commons found in raw packs, particularly 27 107 59 84 88, which has appeared four separate unique times
* Another curious thing is how certain cards seem to flip orders in packs. For example, in the green main sequence, the order for two particular commons has always been 78 23, except one time when it was 23 78. Likewise, in the beginning of the beige sequence, cards 21 and 68 are constantly flipping between different packs (sometimes 21 is first, other times it's 68).
* And then sometimes a card is outright missing; any instance of an "..." in the print run graphic is where it seems like a card was left out, even though everything about the commons in the pack fit the pattern.
* Another observation I've made is that, generally speaking, a card appears three times. Just pick a number, and chances are you'll see it in at least three positions.

The MOST interesting thing is that, even after an entire box of cards worth of additions, we're STILL no nearer to the complete Black/White print run! However, there already is a lot laid down, so you can print out the above graphic and bring it along with you to the next Black/White pass draft to help you win it. ;)

---------- Post added 05/20/2011 at 01:57 AM ----------

Now here's something interesting:
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=149713

When the Print Run for Magic sets are recorded, apparently there is an "A set" and a "B set"; packs can come from either one, but not from a mix of both. When I did my Gym Challenge [Common] Print Run, I didn't see a A/B set system for it, but maybe it has changed since Nintendo took over. I suppose we'll find out when this Black/White Print Run is complete!
 
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