Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Pokémon Mighty Beanz!

man, why do you let 'em buy em? I would not let my kids get em...i'm grimacing with pain here. My parents let me blow my saved up twenty dollars when i was eight or so at Chuck E. Cheese. I had saved up for forever it seemed. I cannot believe they let me blow my money like that. Trust me, you'll scar your kids for life! ok, maybe not, but...just get 'em hooked on cards! lol.
 
To me, it would seem just as bad, if not *worse* what WotC/Nintendo does... Typically, the cards everyone wants - the cards that make the killer decks - are the ones that are "rare", if not "uncommon" - and generally the only thing that makes 'em "rare" is that they print less of them (so that everyone who wants 'em will buy more packages in hopes of getting 'em...) They've got a good idea of which cards people will want - why not print more of those (or at least the same amount of them...)
 
UncleBob said:
To me, it would seem just as bad, if not *worse* what WotC/Nintendo does... Typically, the cards everyone wants - the cards that make the killer decks - are the ones that are "rare", if not "uncommon" - and generally the only thing that makes 'em "rare" is that they print less of them (so that everyone who wants 'em will buy more packages in hopes of getting 'em...) They've got a good idea of which cards people will want - why not print more of those (or at least the same amount of them...)
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It's called a marketing scheme. It also keeps the game in ballance. If everyone had a ton of rare cards, what would th e point of playing be, everyone would use the same bunch of cards.

psycho_lugia_X said:
man, why do you let 'em buy em? I would not let my kids get em...i'm grimacing with pain here. My parents let me blow my saved up twenty dollars when i was eight or so at Chuck E. Cheese. I had saved up for forever it seemed. I cannot believe they let me blow my money like that. Trust me, you'll scar your kids for life! ok, maybe not, but...just get 'em hooked on cards! lol.
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Exactly. Mighty beans are a waste of money. All they are is little plastic shells with a crud paintjob all over them with a ballbearing placed inside. Heck, if I wanted to buy overpriced collectable crap, I'd get some of those beanie babies.
 
Yeah, you can't forget that TCGs are a business after all. They are supposed to make money in this little process. They dont make all good cards rare; there are good common, uncommons, as well as rares. Just that to make sure that everyone isnt packing a bazooka, they need to make a way for there to be a smaller amount of these really great cards: enter the rare.

I mean, htey dont make great stuff rare just to taunt you, they do it to keep the game in order, like '22 said. Plus, what would the adventure be in knowing exactly what your going to get in a pack? It helps keep the game from being dominated by insane decks. If everyone is packing major heat, then that would just bring the entire game down, too, you know. If everyone had incredible cards at their disposal, then the game would become a monotonous blob, the same thing as just have lame cards all around. So this set of all insane cards would make a need for even better cards. So the solution to this perpetual onslaught of brilliance? Make some good cards easy to get. Make some better cards a little harder to get. And make some really great cards a much harder to get. I hope this image of potential choas controlled helps you see our point of view, if not just mine.

UncleBob, if there's anything you're missing from my argument please tell me; i'm pretty sure i'm laying this all out plainly, but maybe i overlooked something.

Your turn.
 
Well went to TRU yesterday so the boys could spend their gift cards on MB's (it's their "money" they can spend it on what they want (long as it's not underfoot)). So they race to find them and i dawdle around the cards just to look. The YGO "island" only had one section for YGO. THe other contained Duel Masters packs. Pokémon packs on the other side and "anime collection" was on the last side. Very interesting. Checked the aisle where the cards are kept and looked and found BREAK KEYS!!!! WOW!!! They actually made them. Guys from League who went to GenCon last year brought us back some and we had a great laugh over them. Took some to show the boys. They laughed. Found MBs - but a boy had just grabbed the last Pokémon MB pack. The MB "island" was wiped almost clean (guess that's what happens when it's "buy 2 get the 3rd free" sale. So looks like MBs are Mighty Popular.
So we went to Wal-Mart. Use those gift cards. Found a rack (box that the MB's come in with slots to make them stand up) to Pokémon MBs - so the boys grab 2 packs each. Oldest grabbed packs for Duel Masters (why? I don't know - bought some at TJ's that we didn't open). Then found an empty rack. Well if there's an empty rack, maybe they have more. Asked and the employee told us to meet him in the aisle so we waited and he came and grabbed a rack off the top shelf (DOH! looking up is always helpful). So the boys looked through it and pulled the packs they wanted. Went home and opened them. Each pack contains 1 common that you can see, another common, 2 Rare, and 1 Ultra Rare. Don't know what differentiates between a Common and Rare, unless the Commons you can see and Rares you never see. But the boys were happy. (Oldest was also happy as he pulled 3 Holos in 8 packs.)
 
Mighty beans,. One invention of the toy industry i will not pick up because of how oddly annoying it looks. I dont like bashing things but i dont see the point of having them around. I guess if the kids like them it can be that bad. :rolleyes:
 
well, that's nice and everything, but unless you have money coming out the wazoo, you really should watch these shopping sprees. I guess it's because i grew up without the luxury of getting whatever i wanted whenever i wanted it. We didnt really have money to burn like that. But if you can afford it, and dont mind giving all that money to them, then I guess there's no reason to limit what they buy.

But, like i said earlier, that one time i was allowed to spend my money however i wanted to at C. E. Cheese's, i ended up regretting it. It was because it was there. Because i had the money with me and i was in an environment designed to make you want to spend money. I was basically drunk on the freedom to spend my money on little arcade games and things. It was a spontaneous thing. These Mighty Beanz are a shock as was the CEC event. That sudden impulse to spend money on something new and flashy is a good opportunity to lay down a lesson: watch your spending. I was just thinking about kids today after reading something in the paper this morning on the "terrible teens."

I couldnt believe what i was reading. It all comes down to moderation. If these families would have just built up a strong foundation of limitations, the turbulant state they are experiencing today might have been lessoned or even precluded. It is easy to forget that freedom was meant for adults, not kids. This sounds harsh, but that's what it all boils down to.

I mean, if we were talking cards here, or something, there'd be a different story, but as far as i know, Mighty Beanz are just poorly forged pictures of Pokémon/crazy weirdos on thee dimentional paper. There is nothing to make them a good investment! I'm telling you: get them hooked on cards! Cards! lol

CARDS!

*cough*
 
There are Duel Masters Mighty Beanz already? I was in a local toy shop a few days back and saw Turtles ones. That was depressing. Seems that, no matter my personal opinion, these things are destined to be the next flash-in-the-pan craze. Well, as long as it dies fast and none enter my house, I'll be relatively happy.

I still have a crate of Pogs somewhere.
 
Psycho_Lugia_X said:
well, that's nice and everything, but unless you have money coming out the wazoo, you really should watch these shopping sprees. I guess it's because i grew up without the luxury of getting whatever i wanted whenever i wanted it. We didnt really have money to burn like that. But if you can afford it, and dont mind giving all that money to them, then I guess there's no reason to limit what they buy.

But, like i said earlier, that one time i was allowed to spend my money however i wanted to at C. E. Cheese's, i ended up regretting it. It was because it was there. Because i had the money with me and i was in an environment designed to make you want to spend money. I was basically drunk on the freedom to spend my money on little arcade games and things. It was a spontaneous thing. These Mighty Beanz are a shock as was the CEC event. That sudden impulse to spend money on something new and flashy is a good opportunity to lay down a lesson: watch your spending. I was just thinking about kids today after reading something in the paper this morning on the "terrible teens."

I couldnt believe what i was reading. It all comes down to moderation. If these families would have just built up a strong foundation of limitations, the turbulant state they are experiencing today might have been lessoned or even precluded. It is easy to forget that freedom was meant for adults, not kids. This sounds harsh, but that's what it all boils down to.

I mean, if we were talking cards here, or something, there'd be a different story, but as far as i know, Mighty Beanz are just poorly forged pictures of Pokémon/crazy weirdos on thee dimentional paper. There is nothing to make them a good investment! I'm telling you: get them hooked on cards! Cards! lol



Lugia, :( I was the same way,Growing up in a good family but having to work hard for alot of stuff. my family gave me alott but i learned early that if i wanted something i had to work hard for it.
This craze is the worst way to lose money. I will get some just for fun but i will never go on a spree for them.
CARDS!

*cough*
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Psycho_Lugia_X said:
But, like i said earlier, that one time i was allowed to spend my money however i wanted to at C. E. Cheese's, i ended up regretting it. It was because it was there. Because i had the money with me and i was in an environment designed to make you want to spend money. I was basically drunk on the freedom to spend my money on little arcade games and things. It was a spontaneous thing. These Mighty Beanz are a shock as was the CEC event. That sudden impulse to spend money on something new and flashy is a good opportunity to lay down a lesson: watch your spending. I was just thinking about kids today after reading something in the paper this morning on the "terrible teens."
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Kids are an interesting people. The fact is, if your parents had just denied you the right to spend "your" money at Chuck E Cheese's, you would have just been mad at them (maybe just a little, but still) and never would have learned anything... Instead, you learned a valuable lesson *and* got to have fun while doing it!
That's another thing about kids... they won't believe you until they find out for theirselves. It's the old "Don't touch the stove, it's hot" thing... the moment you're not looking, they're going to do it, not because they don't believe you, but because they have to find out for themselves...
 
Bob, great point!

Now this is making me think: would i really have learned the same lesson if i was restricted? Hmmm...philosophy, fate!

Well, the way i see it, discipline is always fine as long as you are able to justify why you are doing it. And kids' feelings and opinions should not be a huge factor in adult decisions; i think as a liberal society, we forget that. Kids aren't miniature adults; they are kids! So, maybe it was fun, but...i could really go for some extra 10 dollar bills, you know? Especially allowing me to spend all of my money (and i had a bunch of it, relatively) on something that wont even last, that's where there should be some intervention. When you spend a bunch of money in one sitting, it should be on something that can last a while; something tangible.

And that fun i had, i can't even remember what games i played or anything. Its a real let down. If i could have learned this lesson without having to actually losing my money, i would have welcomed it. I guess that's the only real thing i remember: the lesson. But still, you're dealing with money not a wound or somethign that'll heal. That is why i would try my best to preclude the event. If it were something where I'd get a small injury like a cut or something that can heal, then i think it would be fine to just warn your kid and then let him weigh it out.

But. Still. That's a great idea for discussion: which is better teaching a lesson or letting them learn on their own?
 
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