As counter examples, I think my r4 opponent at CA States who went on to T2, asked twice to see my English PL Zangoose. I had a nicely folded cardex printout showing my translation for my JPN Uxie at AZ/CA states; I had several opponents who looked at it more than once. Now put these counter examples in the context of a deck that is 100% JPN. :nonono: To do the math, instead of 2 stops in a match to read the card, you have 20 - not acceptable in a big event which is so fragile as to timing and where the stakes are so high.
You just said yourself that it happened with an English card as well as your Japanese card. So how is there a difference between the two?
With my new glasses, I can once again read my opponent's cards upside down, BTW, but not in Japanese.
This is the first halfway legitimate reason I've heard. However, can you read upside down as fast as right side up? I'd venture to say that it would actually take most people more time to read upside down than pick up the card and read it normally. Thanks for trying to give an actual reason though.
Is all JPN deck legal? Of course. Can it operate in a big tournament without slowing several of its matches or generating a misplay by someone who is trying to keep proper pace?
I have never, as a player or judge, had a problem at a big tournament with a player using Japanese cards with proper translations.
Can it happen? Maybe. But no more than it can happen with English cards.
I thought it was disruptive when I experienced it as a judge last year. Others ridiculed me for having that opinion, saying, "the disruption, if any, is permissible because it's allowed in the rules." That difference-of-opinion with some of my PTO's, fellow judges and professors is one of the reasons I took a year off from judging this season. I wasn't seeing eye-to-eye with my superiors and peers.
I also see a problem when judges also play. Judges and players will many times view things differently. It happens in many types of competitive arenas. Pokemon is no different. Judges need to be able to "stand back" and view things from a different perspective, and not always be viewing things from the players' perspective. It's nice that some judges also play, but they need to separate the two.
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Ditto, I don't think I'll ever convince you (like I wasn't able to convince others last year), that an all-JPN deck disrupted the match I witnessed and judged. Perhaps a part of the disruption was caused because I was doing active judging.
Anyway, I think moderation is the key for premier events. Like Kim (bulbasnore) stated, premier events can be "fragile" when it comes to timing. Any distraction or disruption can have a big impact. Use your Japanese cards -- but use them in moderation. Some have refused to be moderate, so this rule was created to stop them, IMO.
Steve, complete this sentence:
"Japanese cards have been a disruption to my events because ________."
You keep saying they are, but have never given me an example of
how they have been. I would love for you to convince me, I'm asking you to, but you won't give me a clear reason. You just keep saying, "because they are."
Ditto, here is your answer:
Lawman also has given you his experience. You simply refuse to listen.
Any player who claims "right" is rules lawyering. Just because something is allowed does not mean it should be abused. Concerning to me is that if someone insists on playing an particular copy of a card instead of its English equivilant, I will suspect that there is something "special" about that card, in the same way I will suspect something is "special" about the red die if a player insists on using it instead of the orange one. Why does the player insist on using one die instead of another if both are fair and impartial? To get out of that suspicion, you'd better have a better reason than "because I think it looks cool."
Ultimately, this is the question:
Ditto, if yours are the games that are always going to time and holding up the next round, you're going to get a penalty for event disruption due to your excessive use of Japanese cards.
Ditto, you're setting yourself up for this:
Ditto, is it worth the penalty when the judge offered you a way out?
I'll have to go back and see where Lawman gave his experience, I must have missed it.
I say that
you, as a judge, are rules lawyering (and without any grounds) by refusing to let a player play with a Japanese card when they have proper translations and are not disrupting the event. Since you have no grounds for your ruling, I have to do nothing but have the right to do it to be OK.
Only 1 of my matches went to time at the States that I got 3rd at, and that was from a mirror match (where no translations were ever read) and both of us were nearly out of cards in our decks as well as resources. It was a good game.
As I've said, I have never needed the out that Kim has theoretically offered, and would prefer to just use my own cards.
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Sure not, since french is my mothertongue. Anyway most the cards I play are in english,.
I have to deal with it if I wanna play Pokemon TCG, since the new cards are always in english or in japanese... Why do some americans can't make effort to play against other languages cards, are they realy so st...pid as people say in Europe XD ~.
I don't talk necessary about japanese cards, but also to other european languages like french or german that will be also illegal?
I play in Switzerland, and I don't understand nothing about german. But people from the german language side play german cards and don't need to carry cardex since it's also an official language. Do you think there are problems ? Sure not, players are intelligent enougth to explain the effets of the attacks in a german/french/english mixture language.
We shouldn't forget that most of players only care about fun and don't think about cheating or what. Pokémon is a funny game, but this law make this a little bit unfunny (most monney to spend for good cards, can't play in neighbor countries, etc...).
If some players abuse of anything like cheating to win and brokes the spririt of the game, they should be simply banned or punished by a way without have to penalize most of the players that are honest ones.
QFT!
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Is it just me or is everyone missing the point that the change does not occur until the start of the next cycle after worlds when sets will be rotated out also?
Cheers
To be fair, no one
knows that any sets will be rotated out. I have a feeling that the suspected people that pushed this new rule through, will continue to rotate sets, but it would be a shame if we got out of sync with Japan again since they usually don't rotate sets so often.
Still, speculation aside, what am I supposed to do with all the Japanese Platinum that I have? That set will almost definitely not be rotated out.