Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Porygon Z level X thanks to Pokebeach.com

Now I see your point Ryan, wow that could be sickening.... And Prime, I highly doupt we won't be getting this card til after worlds. And even if we did, so what? Thats 8 months away, if it doesn't come out til then, then you can pretty much abandon the entire idea. Seriously, the whole if it doesn't come out isn't really even an issue.

Back to Ryan: Why 4 Porygon Z? Is one a Lv X, or are you just not bothering with it?
 
Prime, I think that Sparta is correct in that Porygon does help set itself up nicely. I've posted parts of the line in this thread, but let me do the whole thing here:

Porygons said:
Porygon L.7 – Colorless – HP50
Basic Pokemon

[C] Calculate: Look at the top 3 cards from your deck, then return them to the top of your deck in any order.
[C][C] Sharpen: 20 damage.

Weakness: Fighting (+10)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 1


Porygon2 L.39 – Colorless – HP70
Stage 1 – Evolves from Porygon

Poke-Power: Download
This Power can be used once during your turn. Discard 1 Supporter card from your hand and use the effect of that card as an effect of this Power. This Power can’t be used if this Pokemon is affected by a Special Condition.

[C][C] Speed Attack: 30 damage.

Weakness: Fighting (+20)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 2


Porygon-Z L.54 – Colorless – HP110
Stage 2 – Evolves from Porygon2

Poke-Power: Conversion
This Power can be used once during your turn. Discard a Basic Energy card from your hand. If you do, until the end of your turn, this Pokemon’s type is the same type as the discarded Basic Energy. This Power can’t be used if this Pokemon is affected by a Special Condition.

[C][C] Tri Attack: Flip 3 coins, this attack does 40 damage x the number of heads.

Weakness: Fighting (+30)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 2


Porygon-Z Lv.X - 130 HP [C]

Poke-Power: Crush Mode
You may use this Power when you play this card into play to Level-Up a Pokemon. Discard all special energy cards attached to your opponent's Pokemon.
Poke-Power: Decode
Once during your turn (before you attack), you may choose up to 2 cards from your deck. After shuffling your deck, put the 2 cards on the top of your deck in any order you want. This power stops working when this Pokemon is affected by a Special Condition.

Weakness: (Fighting) x2
Retreat Cost: [C][C]
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So you get a Porygon start ... attach and arrange the top 3 cards to maximize your start as your attack. Turn 2 you evolve into Porygon2 and start going mad with supporters ... and you can attack for 30 provided you didn't retreat for something else. Finally you get Porygon doing and admittedly random attack, but with a power that can attack weakness quite effectivly. The Level X in turn lets you get rid of one of the more common weakness protections (Holon FF) so that plays well with the attack too. Finally Decode + draw like Team Galactic Mars is amazing. You get the exact two cards you want and maybe something else like taking a card out of your opponent's hand.

Porygon can use Holon FF energy itself to weakness or the other Holon energies to good effect. You don't even need Boosts to be effective like Blissey.

I'll admit that I'm more interested in some of the other DP4 cards ... Claydoll & Togekiss come to mind right off the bat ... but I see potential in Porygon. If nothing else it could make an amazing secondary attacker in many decks.
 
SPARTA said:
Now I see your point Ryan, wow that could be sickening.... And Prime, I highly doupt we won't be getting this card til after worlds. And even if we did, so what? Thats 8 months away, if it doesn't come out til then, then you can pretty much abandon the entire idea. Seriously, the whole if it doesn't come out isn't really even an issue.

Back to Ryan: Why 4 Porygon Z? Is one a Lv X, or are you just not bothering with it?
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Yeah, I think I want a 2/2 Z/X or maybe a 3/1 just for consistency. It depends on which style I'd be using really.

If Japan has it, chances are we'll have it before worlds. If we don't... oh well. Move on.

Did you not read what the underlings did, Prime, when you said the line didn't help setup? Porygon sets up by helping your topdeck out, and porygon2 is sick setup, and then you're done lol.
 
Pachirsu to bring up 3 Porygons, evolve them with massive draws.... Aha...coould be nice *hopes the Download pokepower wont be restricted*
However I am sure these Aussie guys will yet have a huge rant over this....
 
We all make mistakes.

There is a lot of discarding. How do you plan to bring back the supporters/energy you discard? If you just run psychic/lightning energy, how do you plan on hitting pokemon with other weaknesses for good damage. Isn't that the entire premise of the deck? I've run into that problem with Garchomp, how it's hard to predict every weakness you are going to run into.
 
If I remember correctly, there are some pokemon that reuse supporters from discard in DP4.

Back to back posts merged. The following information has been added:

ok guys, Took a quick find and it seems that Volbeat and Illumise might help... if the no-stacking rules not there, then it might be a slight possability for a massive disrupting hand deck....

4 Absol
4 Porygon
4 Porygon2
2 Volbeat
2 Illunise
1 Umbreon*
=17

Hello?
 
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Prime said:
We all make mistakes.

There is a lot of discarding. How do you plan to bring back the supporters/energy you discard? If you just run psychic/lightning energy, how do you plan on hitting pokemon with other weaknesses for good damage. Isn't that the entire premise of the deck? I've run into that problem with Garchomp, how it's hard to predict every weakness you are going to run into.
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NM/Plusle gets back energy, like I suggested using.
As for bringing back supporters... well.. If you're setup and have a PZX in play... you don't need any more supporters. Supporters help setup. If you're setup (and have gone through the 20+ supporters you play) you're done and you won lol.

Like I said, there is no "premise of the deck". This card has options lol. I just went over that.

You CAN run it to hit weakness every time. With 2-3 NM, and a plusle, you can run 2 of every energy and consistently hit for weakness much easier than Chomp can (since you need 2 energy to attack, and you can search for them more easily with a bunch of castaway/roseanne's, and maybe a tech energy-grab supporter). You can run porygon a plethora of ways. As a disrupter, as a hitter, etc.

Run a dripblim and with PZX you can put back 4 Mars and a wager and every turn kill your opponent.

This guy can combo with almost anybody to do a lot of things.

I mean, I could avoid lake boundary and play this guy as sick disruptive.
Play cyclone energy, fire, and holon FF. No lake boundary. I run 4 er2, 4 SSU, and a 2/2 Z/X line. I'm still averaging 60 a turn with my nice powers that kill off your energy and guarantee my continued consistency. FF+fire means I won't have a weakness. I average 60 damage and disrupt with my P2+mars/wager and my lvlX can see to it that I draw into SSU/ER2 for multiple turns in a row and leave you unable to recover whatsoever. Heck, I'll tech in a foresight Absol and stop you dead in your tracks. Whatchu gon' do?

Even if you face a deck that wagers you, the turn after you can oracle and set up after that, unless they wager again, in which case you wait another turn.
 
If this thing combo with the infamous holon engine-type, would it be so sick aswell?
 
These Aussies (u know who that group of team) would go and have a cry... over this whe they may complain about the possible return of the Neo Slowking disaster.... Lolz.
 
Prime said:
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IMHO, Porygon Z is just a poor Garchomp. Garchomp can hit anything (with the right basic energy) for 110 damage for one more energy than Porygon Z. Garchomp has +20 more HP, has free retreat, and a less common weakness.
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Blissey is the most popular card out....
 
Yes, and it has 130HP for a stage 1. This pokemon has 110HP and is a stage 2. There has also been a lot of talk about this pokemon running Lake Boundary with the deck. Fighting is going to be a bigger problem for this deck than for Blissey.
 
This deck wouldn't be coming out for months and months, probably for nationals realistically. By then there is a very good chance of a type switch.

Or just don't run lake boundary and run it with a different style. Or just run FF+Fire+psychic to hit for weakness on those decks that try to counter you.

110hp for a stage 2 isn't that bad, really. The days of double weakness are gone. 110hp conveniently gets over the even-HP hurdle I've discussed before, too. I'm starting to even think that running this guy as a super-aggro isn't the way to play him, but rather running him as a super-disrupter is.
 
This card is insanely good, the whole line's incredible.

Regular PZ is playable as a main attacker even without the X, and the Oracle power just makes it ridiculous. Guess it depends what's popular at the time its released to say what's the best way to play it.
 
"is this card broken or what?"
how about NO? am i the only one with this crazy vibe, i'm sure it's the 'not broken' vibe cause we've been here before way too many times.
 
It's not broken, but it has so many options that it is rediculously good.

It wont make all other archtypes obsolete, but it will be tier 1.
 
How don't you guys see it? It gets any 2 cards on the top of your deck. All you have to is play TVR or other drawing cards and you basically have an advanced Quick Search. It could provide awesome speed to a deck which would make a Porygon Z swarm deck very good and fast. It is NOT broken but it could work.
 
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