Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Rants about these who complains about the format and archtypes...

The Supes said:
Hardly. It's still not your idea.
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Hate repeating myself, so...

"Wait I should play blissey in this deck to improve it, no wait, my friend at league already uses that card, that would be copying. I should play magmortar, no wait, my other friend is going to use that, that also would be copying. I should play ummm, spinda and um, the banette no one uses, and I should use the non-evolving shuppet because my friend is already using that and it would be copying."
 
The Supes said:
Hardly. It's still not your idea.
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The Circular, fruitless, silly argument!
Stagnant opinions which cease to relent
Why must there be such drama in Australia
over nothing more than ignorant hysteria?

This thread would be funny if the joke just wasn't so old.
It contains no hot topic, simply the lines grown icy cold:
"I don't like this; fun this game lacks"
"now let me whine over certain facts"

Finished complaining they never will be
Its end a far off day none of us will see
For their argument is weak but their voice strong
And that will be the death of this game, Pokemon.

Bela
 
Unlimited as it stands right now:

Neo Genesis Slowking + random backup
Vileplume ex

And not very much else. Whoever goes second wins in about 95% of games, simply b/c they have draw advantage.

The Supes: I feel sorry for you, then. You'll never get to witness the pure magic of "I Pity Da Foo" (Absol/Ambipom) or "Strange Delusions" (Gardy/Gex). Both of these decks were my own creations. Both are extensively played, or at least thought about, by the community at large. If you stick to playing ONLY what everybody else is NOT, then you're stuck with a very limited card set to build decks with. Especially today, where pretty much any well built deck is at least viable (and a few not so well built decks as well). By your definition, any deck that has already been played by somebody else is an archetype, and you refuse to play with said deck. That's really a sad position to take, as you really stifle your own creativity when you don't allow for the possibility of playing with something that's very good, but already played. After Cities, go to the Cities forum and look at the "What Won Cities" list. There will be SO many decks on there that you will refuse to play with (I'm talking at least 25 in the Masters). You'll have to change your ideas on archetypes, or lose virtually everything that's fun about this game.
 
Articjedi said:
Hate repeating myself, so...

"Wait I should play blissey in this deck to improve it, no wait, my friend at league already uses that card, that would be copying. I should play magmortar, no wait, my other friend is going to use that, that also would be copying. I should play ummm, spinda and um, the banette no one uses, and I should use the non-evolving shuppet because my friend is already using that and it would be copying."
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I doesn't amtter just because someone else is using it. But if you use the idea JUST BECAUSE others have already used it and had success, that is where I disagree. If you make a deck that ends up being archetype without you realizing it, well ****, that was still your idea.
 
So if I come up with an idea at the same time as my friend, I shelve it for something else at a tournament while my friend wins with it. I'm not allowed to use it because it's NOT my idea any more?
 
bullados said:
IMO, there's a large difference between playing an archetype and playing a netdeck.

Playing an archetype, to me at least, means playing with an idea that is widely used and it's known to be very good. However, you built the deck yourself, you playtested it yourself, and you fixed it yourself, or with some help from good friends. I have no problem with this method. Heck, every single one of my decks has been an archetype, and every single one has been my own deck. (Blastoise with Dark Dragonair. Feraligatr with Parasect while Trash Exchange still in the format. Gardy with Fast Ball. Flygon with Nidoqueen. LudiCargo with Dark Steelix. etc.)

Netdecking is taking a list off somebody else, never testing it yourself, and using it in a tournament.

See the difference between the two? A lot of people seem to get them mixed, or consider them to be the same thing, when, in fact, they are very different.
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Thats it. Thats the way I see it.

We're a group who dont mind archetypes as a whole- well personally for me I dont. I just care when they get abused to the point when 60-70% of your nationals is made up of one :\ in a small Nationals like ours thats only 6 or 7 decks that aren't running their deck around the one card- it's sort of depressing.

I just don't like it when people netdeck and run around saying "omg I rule because I won with a deck a copied from the internetz (or brought in this case)" and terrorize little kids at casual tournaments with them (A few have heard the complaints from parents). I know it happens, and there's not much I can do about it, BUT it doesn't mean I have to like it, and I will vent it as I please- why yet another thread about something I don't like was placed here again is beyond me.

Stay out of our countries insignificant, childish issues.
 
A few have heard the complaints from parents).
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Wait, wait, wait, parents complain because their children were beaten fair and square at a tournament?

If I were the TO, I'd tell them to sod off if they tried whining at me like that.
 
Marril said:
Wait, wait, wait, parents complain because their children were beaten fair and square at a tournament?

If I were the TO, I'd tell them to sod off if they tried whining at me like that.
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No, because someone was going around threatening new kids at the game that as soon as they entered they'd be 'slaughtered'.

pshht if it was because they were beaten fair and square than i'd be on the same stance- not everyone can win.

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Rambo1000 said:
i dislike everyone i've met from australia who plays pokemon so far unless there's someone cool i can't think of?
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Not sure if you've met me...

I might seem like a complete *****e on the net but apparantly im not a bad guy
 
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Lionheart, you complain about Kricketune, and yet you say you do not have problems with Archetypes?

You KNOW that Kricketune is not very popular. 2 people (That I know of.) out of hundreds of our registered players (Albeit, fewer play anymore.) actually use Kricketune. You are only complaining about it to gain "rep" from the couple of people that don't like the deck. You KNOW it is not a problem. You know it NEVER will be a problem.

As for the whole Flygon dillema. Big deal. You are just emo about the whole Flygon being used at Nationals thing because you LOST to one. (Maybe the fact you lost to Jason puts the dagger in a bit further.)

Alot of people used Flygon because it gave them a better chance of winning - and with a trip to Hawaii on the line, who wouldn't want every chance they could get? Would you rather everyone using rogue decks and cheating, or would you rather people playing properly with Archetypes?

Archetypes are not unbeatable. They are just combinations of cards that work well and effectively together. They also have alot of counters.

Rather than having your pathetic digs at Jason, admire his efforts. He has gotten further at Worlds in that age division than anyone else from Australia. You have been twice Marcus. What have you got to show for that?

I am not one for measuring people's playing skills based on their positions in events. So I am not going to say "omg. Jason. is sooo gud." But needless to say, he has alot of skills that make him a good player. You and Jason used to be friends. What the **** happened?

Why can't everyone get the **** over themselves and accept every bodies differences. I remember, quite a long time ago now. Everyone in Australia used to be mates. What in the **** happened? Why does everybody hate each other?

I think I know the awnser. But I would like to see what you other Australian's think it was first.
 
I have issues with a particular card or two, not archetypes.

Aaaaand we're all still buddies down here as far as I know- NSW and VIC and some of QLD

mind you its 1 all between myself and Jason.

And from worlds, I dont care about results, I just care that I get to see some close friends once a year.
 
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Stop complaining.

You could have been in an environment where the archypes wer Haymaker, Raindance, or stall...or during that early period was really, haymaker, haymaker, or more haymaker.

Or you could have been in the Slowking/Sneasel, Sneasel/random pokemon, and Sneasel Sneasel Sneasel!!!! Era.

Anyone who complains about archtypes, netdecking, and whatever doesn't realize what the metagame USED to be.

Get off my lawn, silly kids.
 
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