"Sablelock" MD-on

[SeaLegend]

The quotes are there, because it's a little off from the average Sableye..

4 Sableye SF
1-1 Honchkrow (SV-SV)
2-1 Giratina X (1 PL 027/1 PL 009-PL)
2-1 Mewtwo X (MD-LA)
2 Uxie LA
1 Azelf LA
1 Ambipom G
1 Promocroak/Relicanth SV
2 Crobat G
2 Honchkrow G

3 Cyrus's Conspiracy
2 Cyrus's Initiative
2 Energy Gain
4 Poke Turn
3 Power Spray
2 Judge
1 Palmer's Contribution
1 Premier Ball
2 Warp Point
3 Pokemon Collector
2 Bebe's Search
1 Luxury Ball

4 Double Colorless
4 Special Dark
2 Basic Dark
4 Psychic

Strategy: Hopefully get a Sableye or Honchkrow start. If possible, go for the donk. Mewtwo X is there as an SP counter, and I choose to run 2 so I can get out of Warp Energy and such if I need to. Giratina along with Honchkrow serves as the perfect Gyarados counter and major pain to Jumpluff decks; pull out their Magikarps/Hoppips and send them off to the Lost Zone along with a cheap prize. Ambipom and Promocroak are there as Luxchomp counters, though Promocroak could change if I can't get my hands on one. Uxie and Crobat should be self explanatory.

 

[ChicoBlanco]

lol i like how Honchkrow (SV) is now standard in SableLock decks

I would probably play Aaron's instead of Palmer's though

 

[SeaLegend]

I prefer Palmer's for the ability to get Honchkrow back in, since a majority of my attackers are not SP I'd much rather not play Aaron's.

Additionally, I'm looking for some slots in here to add Warp Points and/or Super Scoop Ups, any suggestions?

 

[ChicoBlanco]

oh... yeah I hear ya



-1 giratina X
-2 Expert Belt?

+3 warp

(idk if thats good advice or not, but it might work)



ps: Con played Aaron's

 

[SeaLegend]

Actually yeah, I don't see any real situation where the Belt's gonna come in handy, so I guess I'll take those out. I do wanna keep Giratina X though, for its awesome hand disruption and the ability to snag extremely cheap prizes off of Gyarados and Jumpluff along with Honchkrow.

 

[Solemn_Party]

Actually yeah, I don't see any real situation where the Belt's gonna come in handy, so I guess I'll take those out. I do wanna keep Giratina X though, for its awesome hand disruption and the ability to snag extremely cheap prizes off of Gyarados and Jumpluff along with Honchkrow.

Expert Belt + Sableye + Darkness Energies = Multiple knockouts with Overconfident. I won an entire match with just Sableye like that.

 

[ashinto]

Dude, you're using a SableTech LOL.

A 3rd gain would be nice IMO.

 

[Solemn_Party]

Dude, you're using a SableTech LOL.

A 3rd gain would be nice IMO.

Yeah. I ran this for my SP Engine:

3 Cyrus's Conspiracy
2 Cyrus's Inititive
4 Poketurn
3 Energy Gain
2 SP Radar
4 Power Spray.

 

[ashinto]

4 cyrus's is always better than 3 solemn party...

 

[DragonClyne725]

^ true for most SP decks, but Sablelock can run on as low as 2 Cyrus's Conspiracys (though i don't suggest it)

3 Conspiracys is what i run and it works great

 

[SeaLegend]

Alright, I attempted to clean the trainer line up a bit... Came out with this result


3 Cyrus's Conspiracy
2 Cyrus's Initiative
2 Energy Gain
4 Poke Turn
3 Power Spray
2 Judge
1 Palmer's Contribution
1 Premier Ball
3 Warp Point
3 Pokemon Collector
2 Bebe's Search

Since all my main attackers are non-SP, I don't feel like SP Radar or 2 extra Gains are much of a necessity.

I also switched out Chatot G for a Warp Point, I felt like it wasn't much of a necessity and I need the Warps to get out of high retreat situations.

 

[DragonClyne725]

Switch the Chatot G back in, it really is necessary in any form of Sablelock. idk what you would take out though...

 

[gmuersch]

lol this list is soooo bad.

 

[SeaLegend]

lol this list is soooo bad.

Thanks bro.

I made some more changes, and yeah I'm really not sure what I would switch out for a Chatot G.. I do see why it would be necessary though, and I'd like to try to fit it in.

 

[travis3290]

lol this list is soooo bad.

wow, what an amazing and helpful comment. like are you kidding me or what?

OP i think this deck is pretty much different for everyone, and needs to be edited per area. Definitely keep the chatot and maybe drop the 'tina x

 

[gmuersch]

why would you need 2 mewtwo x? really to stop warp energy? how many decks even use that besides dunsparce? you just have to stop dropping basics.

 

[SeaLegend]

Well if you took the time to check, you'd notice that I took out the 2nd Mewtwo X ;p. I'm thinking I may drop a Collector for the Chatot G, sound okay?

 

[sandy4123]

I believe most basic decks will die after the rotation because there will be no unown g to stop machamp. you have no machamp counter. lets face it. Machamp can beat through honchkrow by leveling up and then using a flash bite.

 

[rubyiris]

I believe most basic decks will die after the rotation because there will be no unown g to stop machamp. you have no machamp counter. lets face it. Machamp can beat through honchkrow by leveling up and then using a flash bite.

machamp is going to be too terribly slow to keep up with anything.

i will give them the benefit of being to occasionally get lucky and steal matches from better decks.

 

[DragonClyne725]

I believe most basic decks will die after the rotation because there will be no unown g to stop machamp. you have no machamp counter. lets face it. Machamp can beat through honchkrow by leveling up and then using a flash bite.

Sablelock is a disruption/donk/snipe deck. If it doesn't donk Machamp, then it will "Let Loose"/Judge/Initiative to destroy Machamp's hand.

I have played Sablelock vs. Machamp a couple of times, and both times he got out a T1 Machamp and 'took out' my basic pokemon. I then would use my Ambipom G to move energy from Machamp to his benched Claydol and proceeded to lock him out of drawing any energys/energy search cards. I managed to set-up a Garchomp CX with a lot of energy and 2HKO'd it with Dragon Rush.

So you see, Machamp can be worked around if you don't donk it T1.