Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Technical Machine TS-2 Problems

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hoothoot69

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My friends and I were playing when we ran into a problem. I attached a Devoluter Cube to one of my pokemon to try to attempt to remove his pokemon, being Gliscor Lv. X. I know it says specifically on the card, (excluding level X), but in the rulebook it says, in a case where an effect removes the highest stage evolution of a lv X, you cannot do this, but remove the highest stage evolution and then subsequently remove the lv X.

my view is that the card works like the rulebook and that i am choosing gliscor an dnot his level up, and that devoluter cannot simply remove a lv X

my friend is saying that since it says choose one of your opponents evolved pokemon excluding pokemon level X i should just stop there.

http://pokegym.net/gallery/displayimage.php?imageid=35703

any resolution?
 
Yes. You cannot pick a Level X. Says so on the card.
 
The ruling is .. (from the compendium) that it is done this way:


1. You announce that DE-EVOLVE the stage 1. (Gliscor ==> Gligar)

2. Then, your opponent puts Gliscor in his hand.

3. Since the LvX no longer corresponds to the card that it is with, your opponent must, now, put GliscorX in his hand as well.

Long story short...

You were right that he must put the Stage 1 AND the LvX in his hand.

HOWEVER ... you have to call that attack right. "De-evolve your Stage 1 Gliscor" and NOT "Devolve your LvX"

I hope this clears things up a little :)
 
Guys, you are confusing cards and Pokemon.
While in play, it is a Pokemon, not a card.

The card is a Level Up card.
The Pokemon is a Pokemon LvX.

You CANNOT target a Pokemon LvX with this card.

So you cannot target your opponent's Gliscor. Period.

Think about it: What in the world would the text mean if you could target the Stage 2 under the Level X and the Level X then had to follow?
If that worked, then why even bother writing that exception.

You can't use this against a Pokemon that has leveled up.
There is no "trick" to get around that.
 
Here's my question about TS-2 and also TS-1: Do they stay attached after you use them, or are they a one time use only type thing? It doesn't say to discard it like other tools do, but it is classified as a TM and not a tool. Is there a rule that covers all TMs as only a one time use type thing?
 
We have a question in on whether they stay attached.
That's why we haven't answered those questions in ATM.
 
@_@ How is this even a question? It says on the card, you cannot target a LvX with TS-2. You cannot select the regular form as the attack target, because that pokemon is no longer in play, it has been replaced by the LvX.
 
This is one of the deepest, most impressive questions I have seen on this forum in a long time. Can you use an effect that says on the card "(Excluding LvX)" on a LvX? Man, My brain hurts just thinking aobut this one....
 
I don't see why they would be discarded. Unless it says otherwise, a card that is attached to another card never gets discarded. That seems like common sence to me.
 
LOL @ "This is one of the deepest, most impressive questions I have seen on this forum in a long time. Can you use an effect that says on the card "(Excluding LvX)" on a LvX? Man, My brain hurts just thinking aobut this one.... " -- aaahahahahahahaa ... I've gotta admit, he got me good with one... ahahahahaaa :lol:

*serious face* :cool: I did read it somwhere though...

__________ Just looked it up and this guy nailed it __________

ApachePrime said:
Abudoggie posted a link to the correct ruling. The rule the original poster is looking at refers to OLD TM's and Primal Swirl ONLY. The ruling specifically covers the TS-2 TM.
Click to expand...

Yeah. I did that. Sorry .. lol
 
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I still say this is a really terrible ruling or even card design. There are other ways to devolve Pokemon Level X but not this one special way that makes you waste an attack? What a stupid card.

I think the card is wrong, myself. It worked before and now they want to give even more added protection to pokemon X.

In terms of lore, what possibly could be giving these well-trained Pokemon the ability to resist being de-evolved? Stupid design.
 
The question has been answered. How about we be civil and NOT turn this into a flame war, or even any kind of personal attack (Shuckle LvX's last post was a good example of unnessesary).

TX: You question has an answer- You CANNOT target a level X pokemon with a devoluter, no matter how you phrase it.

Now, can we all let this die before harassing it any further?
 
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