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The US loses... to PUERTO RICO?

RaNd0m

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This is obviously an Olympic Basketball discussion...

Now we know the selection committee did a terrible job selecting players this year... (Jefferson? Marion? They do the same thing!) But honestly, how terrible could this be?

We lost to Puerto... Rico...

We don't have a pure shooter.

This is the worst US team assembled. Ever.

~ RaNd0m
 
It's not that they have a lack of talent or anything... but look at their roster. All of them are YOUNG, except for 4 or 5 people. Part of this is the best players not wanting to play. Shaq, Kobe, McGrady, etc. Look at who you have:

Emeka Okafor (ROOKIE)
Dwayne Wade (1 Year)
Lebron James (1 Year)
Carmelo Anthony (1 Year)
Amare Stoudamire (2 Years)
Carlos Boozer (2 Years)
Richard Jefferson (3 Years)
Lamar Odom (5 Years)
Shawn Marion (5 Years)
Tim Duncan (7 Years)
Stephon Marbury (8 Years)
Allen Iverson (8 Years)

Not only are most of them very young, they don't have the desire to win. Other teams do, like you saw with Puerto Rico. They aren't playing well as a team, and God knows they can't shoot. I've never seen so many missed 3's in a row in my life. That was sickening. This team needs to improve a LOT if they want to even get any kind of medal. If they can't beat PUERTO RICO, what's next? The future doesn't look good for the USA.
 
You people are acting as if the US loses a game the world will be destroyed, lightin up it's just some stupid game.
 
MewMaster, if you're not interested in the Olympics, then please don't post in this topic; just because it's not to your taste, there's no need to condemn anyone who IS interested in it. Please consider this a warning...

'mom
 
Indeed i'm very mad that they lost. I wish Shaq, McGrady, and others played (I can understand why Kobe didn't with his trial) but oh well. I'm also uberly ****** that the USA's Baseball and soccer teams didn't qualify. And its all Mexicos fault! :mad: I can't believe that we won the 2000 Olympic games in baseball, yet we can't represent ourselfs in 2004?
 
Don't count the US out yet, they may not be good enough to dominate like past years but this team is still very talendted and wants to win. Hopefully this is the last wakeup call they will need. Help them Coach Brown!
 
A 19 point loss. Kind of humourous in away. But how many US players couldnt paly for one reason or another. I'm estimating at least 10-15 players declined. I mean--Lamar Odom!? We couldn't get anyone better? There's probably at least 20 guys better than him. Plus 3 rookies from last year and another who's never played in an NBA game. We definetely don't have a team that represents the U.S.'s talent.
 
Mew Master said:
You people are acting as if the US loses a game the world will be destroyed, lightin up it's just some stupid game.
This is no more of a stupid game than any other, you really shouldn't post here anyway. This is a very special event for the best atheletes in the world to compete for their country's pride. Geez, how did china get so many golds on the first day, that's what I'm wondering.

How did they pick the team this year anyway, there are no superstars like in previous olympiads.
 
They asked all the best guys to be on the team first (shaq, kobe, kg, jason kidd, etc.) but all declined for one reason or another. Either cuz they didn't feel safe, had previous engagements (i think a couple guys said soemthing about a wedding or something), or basically just didn't want to particiapte (although they didn't say that directly). Basically, the athletes today care more about money then the pride and joy of playing with honor and that to show that they're country is the best and what not. Not saying all athletes are like this, but all too many are.

Articjedi said:
This is no more of a stupid game than any other, you really shouldn't post here anyway. This is a very special event for the best atheletes in the world to compete for their country's pride. Geez, how did china get so many golds on the first day, that's what I'm wondering.

How did they pick the team this year anyway, there are no superstars like in previous olympiads.
 
As a basketball fan, player, and occassional assistant coach, it is difficult to watch the United States team play. They do not lack talent; Indeed, the team assembled this year is comprised of the best players in the world...

...At running the floor, slashing to the basket, and blocking shots. Seven of the players are the long, lanky, quick slash-and-dunk types. The three point guards, if you consider Wade, Marbury, or Iverson true point guards and not shooting guards trapped in point guard roles, also penetrate and score well, but cannot consistently hit outside shots. The three big men are all deft beneath the basket, excellent rebounders, and solid defensively, but cannot extend a defense. In short, I cannot think of a team, ever, more ill-suited to playing offense against a collapsed 2-3 zone, or at defending the perimeter. It is here where Italy and Puerto Rico simply dominated the United States. By shutting down the area 15 feet and in, they shut down the entire US team. Unfortunately, though he is a great coach, Brown will not be able to counteract the 2-3 zone with any strategy: he lacks the personel to attack it in the half court set, and his point guards have been reluctant, or too disaffected in the case of Iverson, to bother pushing the ball up the court with the speed necessary to beat the zone; i.e., using the fast-break offense that shoots before the defense can set up. There is no team at the olympics right now that can keep up with a lineup of Duncan, Marion, Anthony, James, and Iverson. However, to make the fast break offense work, you have to shut down perimeter shooting and control the defensive boards. Against Puerto Rico, we did not shut down the outside shooting at all, leading to more offensive rebounds for Puerto Rico (three pointers rebound farther from the basket, giving the offense a better chance at grabbing the ball), and more made perimeter shots, which stalls the fast break offense (you can't fast break off of a made opponent basket). Iverson and Marbury, further, lack the height to defend the 6-5 guards of the other teams on the perimeter: you saw Brown adjust for this at the end of the PR game, with 6'10" Odom guarding Carlos Arroyo. The US team is a perimeter defender and outside shooter away from dominating the game like they once did. However, without these things, they fall prey to a basic zone and spread offense. My 12-man USA dream team for this year? Here it is, NOT including any of the players who were invited, but decided not to come:

C -Tim Duncan
C -Ben Wallace
C -Carlos Boozer
PF - Zach Randolph
PF - Amare Stoudemire
SF - Ron Artest
SF - Michael Redd
SF - Shawn Marion
G - Michael Finley
G - Sam Cassell
G - Stephon Marbury
G - Chauncey Billups

Richard Hamilton was hard to leave off the list, and the team lacks its big, bruising type of player that has bone spikes coming out of his elbows and whose stat line at the end of the night reads " 6 points, 3 assists, 2 blocks, 11 rebounds, and five ridiculously overt fouls". Still, though, having power forwards that know that they're supposed to dig in on the blocks (lamar odom shooting threes is a mockery of the sport), skilled centers who can defend and grab every rebound that exists, scoring small forwards, one of whom is a perimeter specialist, and a collection of guards as proficient at hitting clutch jumpers as they are running a team. Give me that collection of players, rather than Lebronshawn Anthonmiredom and Dewallen Marverson (get it, they're all the same darn player), and we'll bring home the gold, and tear apart a few 2-3 zones while we're at it.
 
yeah, they dont get paid millions to win for their country, so why would they?? i refuse to talk trash about the players on our team. i mean, at least they had the pride and courage to go and play. if we lose by 20 points, it is as much the fault of the good players who declined to come. our team could have had all kinds of superstars like jason kidd, kevin garnett, and shaq (to name a few). by choosing to stay home, they have basically said they dont care about our nation because they might be fatigued when they get home. the olympics are two weeks long. now, how long is an nba season?? we might as well just go back to having our best college players go to the olympics. at least they would come.
 
Well

This is what you get for putting a mess of star players together whom many were standouts for their own teams. With the way some major stars are acting today, you wouldn't think they'd work well as a team or really give priority to actually playing. Personally, taking the whole Detroit Pistons that won the championship or get a team that did well with all the team members intact would havce worked better IMO, just for the fact that they played well as a team and can work together much easier.


http://www.worlddressage.com/

Not THAT'S an Olympic Sport worth talking about!!!!!! :p :p :p
 
yeah, taking the entire championship team would have worked a lot better, probably. of course, you cant force players to play (unless you put something in their contract).
 
In this case, taking the Pistons would have worked, since their roster is comprised almost entirely of USA-born or citizened players (with the exception of Darko...). What, though, would we do if, say, the Dallas Mavericks would have won the championship?
 
The US got spanked. HARD.

And we deserved it.

It's yet another symptom of our arrogance and attitude of entitlement as a nation.

Guess what. The mere fact that we invented sports like baseball and basketball does not mean that we are entitled to win them in the Olympics.

Puerto Rico deserved a 19-pont win over a team that was too hung over to do more than jog down the court. :(

It's time the US pulled its head out and got its act together.
:nonono:
 
Also realize that most of our best playes declined from going to Athens because of security concerns... America isn't exactly the best association you want to have right now with the current international atmosphere.
-Phil
 
Although I'm saddened by the amount of stars who declined, I understand some of them.

Garnett was getting married... and it was planned back in October... and this is good so that way Denver fans can't accuse him of being um, well, if you remember the Francisco Elson incident...

O'Neal's just a jerk.

Bryant's got a rape trial.

Sam Cassell is injured, although he wasn't even formally invited.

Dude, they might as well have gotten Troy Hudson...

I don't understand why Michael Jordan can't come back and play for the US. He might stink, but he'd bring the veteran-type-attitude that might help.

This is the most selfish basketball team I have EVER seen. It's worse than the Lakers. I'm not joking.

ABSOLUTELY ridiculous.

~ RaNd0m
 
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