Unanswered Questions

[Tenshi_Lombre]

Hey, hopefully there isnt already a thread about this topic
but so far ive been playing the pokemon games and TCG almost since it came out
i have also watched the show
and there have been some questions that have been bugging me about the whole thing

1. if a kid becomes 10 years old, they can become a pokemon trainer right? so that would put them somewhere along fifth grade education >_> where else do they learn other stuff????
2. where are the cars!????? there are NO cars or other vehicles in the game!!! if we had teh technology to store pokemon in small spheres why havent we invented cars???
there was only ONE car, and that was at the beginning; your maving van
3. Lt. Surge is supposedly american, will there an America region game soon???? Lol
4. what nationality is Brock???? ive seen him dancing in a sombrero >_>
5. shouldnt there be a hotel or somethin in every town? i would hate to camp out every day >.< Lol


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[blackanese]

LMFAOOOO woooow this is some weird stufff lmfaoooo, i cant even answer them b/c, of course, i dont have the answers

 

[Absoltrainer]

We adressed all the weird stuff a long time ago in this http://pokegym.net/forums/showthread.php?t=40709&highlight=general+thoughts

 

[Dread Lord]

eh there is a car when Ash goes to fight Giovanni ( Gary has 1 )

 

[Absoltrainer]

scott owns a car

In Pokemon Heroes the 2 rocket members have a car/airplane thing

gary has a car

Ash and the gang have ridden on the back a trailer before

 

[Marril]

I'm going to give serious answers to all these, because I'm bored and there's nothing better to do right now.

1. They don't. Actually, not very many people become wandering Pokémon trainers at 10. So, Ash is basically an uneducated teenager (by now) who wanders about like a street vagrant, making animals fight each other. Most people who go anywhere would stay in school.

2. There are streets in cities... cars are just rarer than on Earth, or having one is some kind of luxury as opposed to just something everyone has. Gary having his chauffered car reinforces the latter.

3. I'm not sure where they say Lt. Surge is American, only that he's a cliché Americanized figure who fought in "the war" some time before or after being a Rocket Elite.

4. Brock is actually Japanese, he's just a highly caricaturized version of how the Japanese see themselves in relation to Americans. Remember, the Japanese degrade themselves a lot in their media.

5. Pokémon Centres double as homeless shelters or something. Several times has Ash slept at one.

 

[Absoltrainer]

1. They don't. Actually, not very many people become wandering Pokémon trainers at 10. So, Ash is basically an uneducated teenager (by now) who wanders about like a street vagrant, making animals fight each other. Most people who go anywhere would stay in school.

Well in the first episode they talk about taking a Pokemon journey 's school leave and Misty remoarks later in the third or fourth episode about how she has a lot of school leave time left. I guess when they say days they meant years. Despite tat birthdays are never shown Ash has been on his quest for about 5-6 years from when he first started in Pallet town until the latest episodes. It is also apparent that he has aged as his character is now draw a bit taller then in the first season. He also has Brock who I think is a high school drop out to teach him a bit.

2. There are streets in cities... cars are just rarer than on Earth, or having one is some kind of luxury as opposed to just something everyone has. Gary having his chauffered car reinforces the latter.

In Japan more people bike to work then drive. The bike riders have more traffic then cars sometimes. This is why biking is emphasized so much in the game and Anime. Also if you notice only rich people own vehicles. Gary, Scott, High Ronking Team Rocket People. Most others use Pokemon for transprtation.

3. I'm not sure where they say Lt. Surge is American, only that he's a cliché Americanized figure who fought in "the war" some time before or after being a Rocket Elite.

It never actually says if he is American or not, but we are to infer that he is. His military style and attitude resemble that of the American Army much more then the Japanese Army. He say he fought in the "war" but we do not know anything about it. He says he used his Pokemon to zap his enemies. This raises two things.
A) That Pokemon can die, as it is a war. Despite the popular Pokemon do not die theory, Rokario sacrafices himself as does LatiOs. Also in the Japanese Pokemon Butterfree supposably dies after leaving Ash.
B) The second thing is that Lt. Surge is supposably an Electric type Master yet thsi new 10 year old punk who just got his Pokemon kicks his butt and know more about stategy and electric Pokemon then an ex army electric master. SOmething does not add up =/

4. Brock is actually Japanese, he's just a highly caricaturized version of how the Japanese see themselves in relation to Americans. Remember, the Japanese degrade themselves a lot in their media

Again I think we are too infer him as Mexican or Spanish. Especsially with all the clues they give.
A) he wears a sombreo
B) he is often seen with a Spanish style mustache (with the sombreo)
C) while in the sombreo and mustache he is holding maraccas
D) his star Pokemon is Ludicolo, possible the biggest spanish sterotype Pokemon ever
E) He brown skin like a tan you could get down in Mexico
so I think we are supposed to see him as a person of Spanish Ansetory

5. Pokémon Centres double as homeless shelters or something. Several times has Ash slept at one.

I think that they may as well be homeless shelters. I mean they do not charge any money. They supply free room and bored and food. In the older season there was often other trainers laying on couches and such. One wonders if government funding keeps these things going or what.

 

[Marril]

Despite tat birthdays are never shown Ash has been on his quest for about 5-6 years from when he first started in Pallet town until the latest episodes.

I think they only mentioned the time spent since starting once, when Ash commented that it'd been a year since he started after returning to Viridian. Still, it seems a bit of a cheesy hack-job to have 5+ years off school... hence my comment that anyone who really gets anywhere stays in school instead of going on a Pokémon journey.

A) That Pokemon can die, as it is a war. Despite the popular Pokemon do not die theory, Rokario sacrafices himself as does LatiOs. Also in the Japanese Pokemon Butterfree supposably dies after leaving Ash.

Butterfrees die after mating, yes. Pokémon can die, though they age very strangely (Pooka was alive for how long despite that rats only live a few years?). Lavender Town is enough proof that Pokémon die on a regular enough basis to be realistic. Plus there's the whole issue of Cubone wearing its dead mother's skull.

B) The second thing is that Lt. Surge is supposably an Electric type Master yet thsi new 10 year old punk who just got his Pokemon kicks his butt and know more about stategy and electric Pokemon then an ex army electric master. SOmething does not add up =/

I think Gym Leaders are instructed to throw fights or something if they think the challenger's fighting well enough. Incidentally, this exact problem is addressed quite elegantly in SS (if a shameless plug is acceptable)—you can only beat Neo League Gym Leaders if you're Pokémon Master-calibre yourself, because they're masters themselves, and do not pull any punches.

Anyway, seriously, Gym Leaders are probably just instructed to throw fights. The huge disparity between, say, Claire and Falkner would mean there has to be something regulating it to give every trainer a fair chance.

so I think we are supposed to see him as a person of Spanish Ansetory

If they added all that sombrero crap only recently (I stopped watching after it switched off WB since Canada doesn't get CN), then they're just tossing random junk out there for comedic effect. The eyes alone are a dead enough giveaway that he's a caricaturized Japanese guy.

One wonders if government funding keeps these things going or what.

The world's apparently quite socialist. The Pokémon League (shameless plus: "and the Neo League") seems to be the only form of government, so it stands to reason there'd be provisions made for Pokémon trainers.

Which raises a very interesting question of my own: What, exactly, does a Pokémon Master do in society? We know they're celebrities and they're very good at training Pokémon, but is that it? Do they work for the League? Do they assist the Professors? I can guess that the "Pokémon G-Men" are comprised of Pokémon Masters, but certainly not every Master is one. So... what do they do to justify their place in society?

 

[Tenshi_Lombre]

It never actually says if he is American or not, but we are to infer that he is. His military style and attitude resemble that of the American Army much more then the Japanese Army. He say he fought in the "war" but we do not know anything about it. He says he used his Pokemon to zap his enemies. This raises two things.

in fire red, the sign outside his gym clearly states:
"VERMILION CITY POKeMON GYM
LEADER: LT. SURGE
The Lightning American!"

 

[Absoltrainer]

I think they only mentioned the time spent since starting once, when Ash commented that it'd been a year since he started after returning to Viridian. Still, it seems a bit of a cheesy hack-job to have 5+ years off school... hence my comment that anyone who really gets anywhere stays in school instead of going on a Pokémon journey.

Prof. Oak say he started when he was 10 and he become a world wide rich prof. Who need school:lol:

Butterfrees die after mating, yes. Pokémon can die, though they age very strangely (Pooka was alive for how long despite that rats only live a few years?). Lavender Town is enough proof that Pokémon die on a regular enough basis to be realistic. Plus there's the whole issue of Cubone wearing its dead mother's skull.

I completly forgot about lavander town but yeah Pokemon die. Dispite that the Pokemon creator (can't rmember name) has siad that they don't.

I think Gym Leaders are instructed to throw fights or something if they think the challenger's fighting well enough. Incidentally, this exact problem is addressed quite elegantly in SS (if a shameless plug is acceptable)—you can only beat Neo League Gym Leaders if you're Pokémon Master-calibre yourself, because they're masters themselves, and do not pull any punches.

Anyway, seriously, Gym Leaders are probably just instructed to throw fights. The huge disparity between, say, Claire and Falkner would mean there has to be something regulating it to give every trainer a fair chance.

Well also Ash has a weird knack for overcoming the whole electrics do not effect rock types as he pwned Brock. Plus if I recall Brock and Misty just gave him badges But then again some gym leaders actually have an intetion to win. Koga tried to kill Ash and unfortuently failed to do so. And on the other hand people make it to the indigo platue with a bellsprout and bulbasaur. In Jhoto Ash actualy started to worry about his pathetic basic Pokemon but in the end gave in to the stupid side as he often does.

If they added all that sombrero crap only recently (I stopped watching after it switched off WB since Canada doesn't get CN), then they're just tossing random junk out there for comedic effect. The eyes alone are a dead enough giveaway that he's a caricaturized Japanese guy.

Brock did it a lot ever since the begining Hoenne most noticably when stalling for time and he even did it again recently when chatchot made his appearance. Of coure if you go with eyes, then there is always the possibility of a Spanish dad and a Japanese wife. In the chronicle episode where he fought his mom for control of the pewter gym his mom is white/possible Asian, while his dad and the rest of the famaily is brown and possibly spanish making Brock a combo. But then you get into they eys of his dad and you could make a whole family tree and say that Brocks dad is also a spanish Japanese mix. It's a cartoon show so they can screw with genetics however they want.:lol:

The world's apparently quite socialist. The Pokémon League (shameless plus: "and the Neo League") seems to be the only form of government, so it stands to reason there'd be provisions made for Pokémon trainers.

Which raises a very interesting question of my own: What, exactly, does a Pokémon Master do in society? We know they're celebrities and they're very good at training Pokémon, but is that it? Do they work for the League? Do they assist the Professors? I can guess that the "Pokémon G-Men" are comprised of Pokémon Masters, but certainly not every Master is one. So... what do they do to justify their place in society?

Well you know that beeders have a purpose as do prof. and such. My assume is that they become celeberties and get oppertunities to join like the Elite 4 and the Pokemon G- men. Think about it a 10 year old dreaming of becoming a world famous celebertiy makes sense. Ash says in the first episode. " when I become a pokemon master and get rich and famous I will buy you a new bike."

in fire red, the sign outside his gym clearly states:
"VERMILION CITY POKeMON GYM
LEADER: LT. SURGE
The Lightning American!"

ahhhh but the game harbors many many many differences then the anime, however you are correct and that leads me to my earler theory about his military style

 

[LegacyEeveeVGC]

Hey, hopefully there isnt already a thread about this topic
but so far ive been playing the pokemon games and TCG almost since it came out
i have also watched the show
and there have been some questions that have been bugging me about the whole thing

1. if a kid becomes 10 years old, they can become a pokemon trainer right? so that would put them somewhere along fifth grade education >_> where else do they learn other stuff????
2. where are the cars!????? there are NO cars or other vehicles in the game!!! if we had teh technology to store pokemon in small spheres why havent we invented cars???
there was only ONE car, and that was at the beginning; your maving van
3. Lt. Surge is supposedly american, will there an America region game soon???? Lol
4. what nationality is Brock???? ive seen him dancing in a sombrero >_>
5. shouldnt there be a hotel or somethin in every town? i would hate to camp out every day >.< Lol


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1. I have no clue and we see how Ash thinks.
2.There is a Truck in red/blue/yellow and Gary drives a car in the first season.
3. I dont know.
4. We have yet to find out.
5.Pokemon Center is one for trainers.

 

[Tenshi_Lombre]

i wasnt really expecting answers :lol:
i was expecting more questions ^_^

 

[Absoltrainer]

Meh more questions are coming up, just wait this will get about 5 pages long soon enough.

We need moss factor to talk about how Meowth screws up the economy.:thumb:

 

[Marril]

I completly forgot about lavander town but yeah Pokemon die. Dispite that the Pokemon creator (can't rmember name) has siad that they don't.

Satoshi Tajiri is a Marty Sue, so his opinion is invalid. Especially considering that Lavender Town exists with the graveyeard theme in every Pokémon media: animé, games, and manga.

Well also Ash has a weird knack for overcoming the whole electrics do not effect rock types as he pwned Brock.

I need to find the (depressingly short) list of Gym Leaders that Ash didn't cheat in some way to beat. Indigo League was like... Koga only. It stays about the same for the whole series.

It's a cartoon show so they can screw with genetics however they want.

If you want genetics, look no farther than Joy or Jenny.

Anyway, sombrero gags aside, Brock is Japanese.

My assume is that they become celeberties and get oppertunities to join like the Elite 4 and the Pokemon G- men. Think about it a 10 year old dreaming of becoming a world famous celebertiy makes sense.

So in the end, they're just the world's greatest, glorified cockfighters? That seems hopelessly crappy from a writing standpoint. There has to be something more to it than that that you're missing.

i was expecting more questions ^_^

I asked one of the most fundamental design questions period. So my part's done.

We need moss factor to talk about how Meowth screws up the economy.

Or, even better, I revive how their total, complete, and utter disregard for the basic laws of physics makes an economy a moot point.

****, Meowth's Pay Day does something fundamentally more damaging than just creating money from nowhere: He creates matter from nowhere. Anyone with so much as Physics 11, even Science 10 under their belt knows about conservation laws, and how violating them on such a scale is a Bad Thing(tm) many orders of magnitude worse than simply fabricating legal tender.

 

[ColdCoates90]

Satoshi Tajiri is a Marty Sue, so his opinion is invalid. Especially considering that Lavender Town exists with the graveyeard theme in every Pokémon media: animé, games, and manga.



I need to find the (depressingly short) list of Gym Leaders that Ash didn't cheat in some way to beat. Indigo League was like... Koga only. It stays about the same for the whole series.



If you want genetics, look no farther than Joy or Jenny.

Anyway, sombrero gags aside, Brock is Japanese.



So in the end, they're just the world's greatest, glorified cockfighters? That seems hopelessly crappy from a writing standpoint. There has to be something more to it than that that you're missing.



I asked one of the most fundamental design questions period. So my part's done.



Or, even better, I revive how their total, complete, and utter disregard for the basic laws of physics makes an economy a moot point.

****, Meowth's Pay Day does something fundamentally more damaging than just creating money from nowhere: He creates matter from nowhere. Anyone with so much as Physics 11, even Science 10 under their belt knows about conservation laws, and how violating them on such a scale is a Bad Thing(tm) many orders of magnitude worse than simply fabricating legal tender.

I don't get the pay day thing. In the pokedex it says that they look around for coins so I assume that is how they use the attack.

 

[bullados]

Indigo leaders that Ash didn't cheat? Surge, Koga, Blaine. He challanged all three of them twice. Surge smashed him, he conceeded to Blaine, and he was interrupted by TR against Koga.

Brock gave him the badge after Ash gave up. Misty's sisters gave him the badge after he used the rat to stop TR. Sabrina never lost that battle, she just couldn't finish it. Erika gave him the badge after he saved Gloom from a fire. He stole the badge from TR after they blew up the gym.

I always thought Brock was more Chinese than Japanese. Japanese artists tend to have a dim view of the Chinese, and will draw them stereotypically as often as possible.

 

[ninetales1234]

2. where are the cars!???????

On an island. Below Vermillion City.

Don't get on the boat. Surf around. You'll see it.

 

[Absoltrainer]

Satoshi Tajiri is a Marty Sue, so his opinion is invalid. Especially considering that Lavender Town exists with the graveyeard theme in every Pokémon media: animé, games, and manga.

He has to keep the anime aimed a children

I need to find the (depressingly short) list of Gym Leaders that Ash didn't cheat in some way to beat. Indigo League was like... Koga only. It stays about the same for the whole series.

Koga
Surge
Blaine

those are it. Brock helped ash statigize to beat Surge
Koga and Blaine had wacky gyms then actually attemted to battle

If you want genetics, look no farther than Joy or Jenny.

Anyway, sombrero gags aside, Brock is Japanese.

Jenny and Joy there is a simply explanation after years of selective breeding they decided to start inbreeding. I stand by my theory mainly because to my knowlage japanese people are not brown in color.

So in the end, they're just the world's greatest, glorified cockfighters? That seems hopelessly crappy from a writing standpoint. There has to be something more to it than that that you're missing.

No that is more or less it they are " glorified cockfighters"
You take creatures and catch then against their will. Then shove them in a 4 inch by 4 inch by 4inch ball and then force them to battle other creatures until they have no will. And what about forced evolutions give it a stone and it evolves.........Like I said you could become a G-man or an Elite 4 member.

I asked one of the most fundamental design questions period. So my part's done.

I ask questions too lol

Or, even better, I revive how their total, complete, and utter disregard for the basic laws of physics makes an economy a moot point.

****, Meowth's Pay Day does something fundamentally more damaging than just creating money from nowhere: He creates matter from nowhere. Anyone with so much as Physics 11, even Science 10 under their belt knows about conservation laws, and how violating them on such a scale is a Bad Thing(tm) many orders of magnitude worse than simply fabricating legal tender.

Beat me too it. The fact that he can create matter and break the laws of physics should have destroyed the Earth in the the first season, but then you get DBZ. Of course with meowth making money, it is no wonder that a lemonade or soda cost 600 dollars in the game:lol:

 

[Marril]

He has to keep the anime aimed a children

Satoshi Tajiri's opinion on a basic like "Pokémon can't die" is pretty much invalidated by the fact that Red and Ash are Marty Sue characters, as well as the fact that literally every canonical instance of Pokémon references, against Satoshi's word, Pokémon death in some way.

Jenny and Joy there is a simply explanation after years of selective breeding they decided to start inbreeding.

So much for a childrens' show. Seriously, inbreeding is only G-rated content in the deep south.

The real reason Joy and Jenny are armies of clones was to mock sprites all looking the same, but that's a metafictional reason.

No that is more or less it they are " glorified cockfighters"

It's a bad sign that a universe where the dominant goal amongst starry-eyed children is to be the world's greatest celebrity cockfighter is still less vapid and more cultural than the real world.

Of course with meowth making money, it is no wonder that a lemonade or soda cost 600 dollars in the game

The pokéyen is still worth more than the German mark at the height of the hyperinflation though.

 

[bullados]

Just an innocent question:

What is a Marty Sue character?