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Unown G Will Cost You Games at Worlds!

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Charzano

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Ok, I know what your thinking. What kind of a loser is this guy? No Unown G? No, not NO Unown G. 1 Unown G. Unown G is so used in this format, that it has sort of become a "staple" in many competitve decks. But really, when you think about it, how good is Unown G? For one thing, your bound to start with it sometime at worlds. Then what do you do? Get T2'd by Machamp, Gengar, Kingdra, Luxape, PALKIA?? Any deck that can deal out 50 damage by T2 will get the donk on you. Now, is that how you want your games at Worlds to go down? I sure don't. Now, lets see, what does Unown G protect against? Machamp? Unless your playing SP, then you shouldn't have to worry about Take Out. I mean, the only time take out should do something is before you evolve, but if you get donked by Machamp before you evolve, then you couldn't have gotten an Unown G anyway. Now, lets say your playing SP. You don't evolve. Machamp can use Take Out and you're KO'd. Well, if you attatch Unown G, you can't attatch E-gain. And if you can't attatch E-gain, then you'll have to attatch an extra energy, thus losing the effect of your entire deck having a Turn faster advantage on everything else. Have you played against a deck using Azelf MT? Attatching Unown G is just like that. You're at a disadvantage. Now, what other decks cause you to "need" Unown G? Gengar? Gengar does what? Does 60 Damage to your 80 HP Claydol? Does 60 Damage to your 70 HP Uxie or 70 HP Azelf? Ok, they still don't KO you. Besides, after the first couple of turns, you could do without Claydol. Play a few Cynthia! 8 Cards that your opponent can't stop you from getting? Claydol and Uxie can get Power Sprayed or Power Locked or KO'd. Supporters can't. Play more draw supporters. Or also, most decks run a 2-2 Claydol line. If you need another one after Gengar spends 2 Turns KOing your first one, just set another one up. All the while, your main attacker is going with full HP. Also, if your Claydol is KO'd then you just won't have as many trainers in your hand, therefore Poltergiest is useless. Also, how played will these too decks be anyway? There was barely any Machamp at Nats, which means you can assume that there won't be much for Worlds, either. Gengar will be played, but not in many numbers. It's not nearly as good as it was for Nats, because it just did well when you played players that weren't that good or that didn't know how to play against it. Everyone knows how to play agaisnt it now, and there are no bad players at Worlds. Focus on teching against decks that WILL be played at worlds instead! Like Luxape! Seeing as it won Nats, it WILL be played at Worlds, and a lot of it. In conclusion, Unown G isn't really needed. MAYBE 1 would be OK in some decks, but you could still start with it. These are all valid points. Just think about it before taking a loss at Worlds. I won't say I didn't warn you.
 
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I 100% agree with you. Even so, there are some decks that need Unown G.

For example, I used gardevoir lock a week ago. My machup against gengar was insanely good. I unown G'd the Gardevoir and the Weavile so they could hardly attack. I was very careful to keep T/S/S out of my hand. They rarely even got to hit me.

Even so, Unown G is not as good as people say it is. I tech 1 Unown G in my non-gardy decks just for show. :) Otherwise, its rather useless IMO.
 
Dude, Oliver, if you attatch it to your SP pokemon, then Gengar can just power up a Nidoqueen in the time it takes you to power up your pokemon and then KO you with it! Unown G can help you, but it can hurt you even more! Its like a double edged sword, but it hurts you more than it helps you.
 
I don't buy the reason for not running Unown because of the chance that one can start with it. It's like saying "I'll never run any Baltoy because I can start with it." At the very least, most people would run two to reduce the chance of it being prized and to lessen the chance to start with it.

Luck is an inevitable part of the game. In any case, it all comes down to consistency. We sometimes have bad starts every now and then but if the deck is consistent and balanced enough, there will always be a way for a comeback (although admittedly, donks are not good).

I don't think Unown G should be disregarded entirely seeing that it's Poke-Power is just too good.
 
What about all the other reasons I listed? And even so, its just 2 more bad startes. I'm not saying you don't have bad starters, but it's just another one. And as for prizing it, most decks run Azelf.
 
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but Unown G is essential in all SP decks otherwise you take the autoloss to Machamp. Decks that run Claydol need at least 1 to protect for Gengar, too, otherwise you auto to Gengar.
 
Don't feed the trolls, etc etc. No one is dumb enough to dedicate THIS much of a topic to Unown G without knowing Gengar can shadow room up to 70/80 via Cress/Crobat/Miasma.

Let's turn this topic into a better cause: Run 2 ~ 4 Unown G's because the OP wants to run into people playing none.
 
these are just my opinions
1. u said good players will get around gengar how? uxie when they run queen it will take too long
2. when u said gengar can only do 60 to uxie and azelf and stuff like that what about crowbat?
3. how are u gunna set up another claydol if u dont have any draw power? ya cynthia's is good and all but how are u gunna draw it with no claydol
4. u say luxape will be really played because it won nats but gengar wont and it won nats to?
5. u say that unknown G can get donked by gengar and machamp but so can uxie and azelf and crowbat ect. theres to many bad starts against those decks to say unknown g is the only one

so i think unknown G depends on what deck u play really
 
I would highly suggest running at least 1 or 2 Unown G to anyone going to worlds, don't let this guy scare you into losing there. It's safe to put at least one in, and if you have bad enough luck to lose because it was your starter than that's life. I 100% agree with Emodecer.
 
To all of you who are saying "Don't listen to this guy" or "Who is he kidding?" Are you denying that my points are valid? I gave legitament reasons for why I think you don't need more than 1 Unown G. Cynthia is a really good way to get cards! You do get 8 Cards and they can't Power Spray! You can get T2'd easily if you start with Unown G-- it only has 50 HP. And even if you don't get T2'd, you still have to retreat it. Just go back over what I wrote, and tell me you don't agree with at least some of what I said.

And BTW, Kevin, I meant won Nats in Masters. The most played deck at Worlds and Grinder is always what won Nats in Masters. People generally disregard Juniors and Seniors.
 
hmmm charzano is right!i cant see how i didnt see this! i want more room in my palkia lock deck anyways for more consistency then techs! thanks so much! =)
 
Good players can recover from bad starts. That's why you run Call Energy etc. And how many times do you lose from an Unown G start anyway?

Gengar players run crobat to one hit both Claydol and Pixies.

Without Unown G, SP autoloses against Machamp.

I'm sure there's someone who's going to run Machamp at worlds in anticipation of all the LuxApe and Palkia Lock that's gonna be going around.

So now that your reasons are no longer valid, I hope people run Unown G at worlds and in the future, regardless of what you say. Also, if you're going to attempt to argue a point, I'm sure most of us would prefer paragraphs and organized points, rather than a block o' text.
 
I know with many luxape decks running Ninetails anyways you dont need it. Its more room in the list. Hmm those 2-3 spaces cleared up could help my consistency.
 
Isn't Charzano a Gengar player....

So basically he's telling people not to play Unown G so he can Shadow Room stuff...
 
Charzano's saying that because he plans on running Gengar and wants to see less Unown G at worlds. lol

Edit: Pochama beat me to it.
 
After playtesting with him today we have decided that gengar is not the play.
Also a amu list with 0 unknown G did make top cut in sr.
 
Could we get your name and POP ranking so we can determine if you're going to worlds? Cuz honestly, that's the only reason you'd tell everyone to NOT run such an obvious staple in their decks. Try harder next time.
 
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