Usage of Dragonite-EX

Discussion in 'Cards: Strategy and Rulings Discussion' started by jhnnymullen, Aug 17, 2003.

  1. jhnnymullen

    jhnnymullen New Member

    I think it's a little slow for me. Are there any thoughts on how to use it properly? I would like to use it seeing how I don't want to waste such a powerful card.
     
  2. Porygon3

    Porygon3 New Member

    there is an Ex Dragonite?
    elabrate...?
     
  3. BJJ763

    BJJ763 Trading Mod Supervisor Staff Member Trader Feedback Mod

    Dragonite ex came in ADV 3 in Japan. Check nick15's site www.fakecard.com for a translation.

    Since it is just a translation and has not been printed, many people haven't given it much thought (they are still busy trying to get a handle on R&S and in a few weeks Sandstorm).
     
  4. The Dark Llama

    The Dark Llama New Member

    Dragonite EX reads as follows: (from fakecard.com)

    DRAGONITE-ex [150 HP]
    (Stage 2 Colorless Pokemon / Evolves from Dragonair)
    [PokePOWER] Calling
    As often as you'd like during your turn (before you attack), you may
    choose 1 Energy card attached to 1 of your Pokemon and move it to
    Dragonite-ex. This power can't be used if Dragonite-ex is affected by a
    Special Condition.
    [WL] Dragon Wave (70)
    Discard 1 Water and Lightning Energy attached to Dragonite or this
    attack does nothing.
    [CCCC] Ruin (120)
    Flip a coin. If tails, this attack does nothing.
    WEAKNESS: C
    RESISTANCE: G/F
    RETREAT: CC
    38/54 Ultra-Rare #304 [Ryo Ueda]


    This should go well with the Expedition Dratini/Dragonair, since they use WL in their attacks as well.
     
  5. dkates

    dkates New Member

    Ouch! Powerful. I would aim for Ruin if I played it -- it's basically a FTKO, except against some other EX's. It may be a Stage 2, but it would fit well in a Rain Dance deck.
     
  6. Marril

    Marril New Member

    Bah. It requires two different energy types (fixable with nonbasics, but nonbasics can get unreliable in large enough quantities). A two-energy 70 damage attack is nice, and its second attack... yeah, second turn with two DCE's seems tempting to build a deck around (if anyone's aware of the Timmy/Johnny/Spike trio, I'm a Johhny, someone who enjoys wacky, hard-to-pull-off combos).

    It's slow, and it's a tank, and it manages to hit hard. Double resistance, apparantly, but either I'm reading that spoiler wrong or there's a colourless weakness (the heck? I thought colourless was special because nothing was weak/resistant to it?). I can see it being played in Modified or R/S Block, but IMO it's a bit slow. Not to mention its card disadvantage (you're using, at best, five cards for 70 damage, seven for 140, nine for 210, and so forth) and coin-flipping attack.

    Raindance would welcome it, though, if Blasty didn't have a more reliable attack—statistically, you're doing 120 damage every two turns with Draggy EX, but Blasty does exactly that as well.
     
  7. Dek

    Dek New Member

    Very good job on the spoiler nick15 (wherever you are). a few cards already interest me:
    Muk-EX (obvious reasons)
    Energy Circulation device
    Defense Charge
    Kingdra-EX
    Rayquaza-EX
    Ampharos-EX

    The weakness for Dragonite-EX still bothers me. I mean, there is no such thing as a colorless weakness unless this is the kind of weakness disadvantage that EX pokemon have. If that's the case, then I could understand.
     
  8. Nick15

    Nick15 Member

    I'm here. And you're welcome. ;)
     
  9. jhnnymullen

    jhnnymullen New Member

    yeah I just wanted to know some possibilities on the deck types for the "tank". i wanted to please the pack gods for blessing me with an ex holo after buying my first pack in so long.
     
  10. TrueGamerX

    TrueGamerX New Member

    Dragonite EX ain't that bad. Double Resistance, with Colorless Weakness. Not bad, but Chansey EX could knock it out maybe.

    I'm looking forward to see what Kabutops EX would be like.
    *makes evil smile*
     
  11. Ultramew

    Ultramew New Member

    That colourless weakness is a worry. However, I suppose the cards are just taking more towards the game. With dragons being weak to dragons.

    However, this puts a great use to Chrystal Shard, a perfect TeCH if anyone needs it ^_^
     
  12. TrueGamerX

    TrueGamerX New Member

    Especially Slaking and Delcatty.
    Oh lawd have mercy!
     
  13. Water Pokemon Master

    Water Pokemon Master <a href="http://pokegym.net/gallery/browseimages.p

    It seems like Nintendo is making the cards more Gameboy style. (more than one weakness, more than 2 attacks, 2 on 2 battles, etc.)
     
  14. vincent0906

    vincent0906 New Member

    IMO...
    Dragon Wave of this "tank" is powerful enough...
    So try to combinate it with Swanpert(Hv i spell wrong?)...

    So you can attach both Water energy and Lighting Energy in the same turn... Thus, you can have a very stable damage of 70 each turn...
     
  15. Fantasy Fox

    Fantasy Fox New Member

    Isn't that HP a little bit too high?
    I never seen Pokemon with more than 120 HP and two resistance before. Is this Nintendo's idea?
    They really changed the game this time.
     
  16. Water Pokemon Master

    Water Pokemon Master <a href="http://pokegym.net/gallery/browseimages.p

    If you think 120 HP is high, wait until you see the 200 HP Wailord-ex.
     
  17. Marril

    Marril New Member

    What does Blissey have? Thought they'd already printed it. Can't have less than 120 HP...
     
  18. dkates

    dkates New Member

    They have printed Blissey. It has 120. Apparently, the new version of the HP rule for card creation is no more than 120, unless it's EX. My guess is that they may eventually have EX Pokemon max out at 240, although 200 also seems like a likely maximum.
     
    Last edited: Aug 24, 2003
  19. Fantasy Fox

    Fantasy Fox New Member

    They should create a "stage 3" Pokemon for cards above 120HP actually. That would be much more fair for the game.
     
  20. Ultramew

    Ultramew New Member

    Then they would need completely new pokemon. Anyways, are you familiar with the 'EX pokemon' rules? The rules sorta make the insanely broken cards not broken :-D

    Anyways, I laugh my head off if they made a Blissey with 100HP. ^_^ @ when one evolves that from BS Chansey.
     

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