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Va Tech Shooting

Marril: be that as it may, it's not like there haven't been these types of shootings in Canada, as recently as last year...

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Not to sound like I'm belittling the tragedy, 'Mom, but I do see this sort of thing as largely a product of American culture. There are lots of measures taken in reaction to these types of events, but comparatively little done to really prevent it, outside of making fusses and pointing fingers at "influences." It's just part of the overall blame game.
 
I hate it when these things happen. My best wishes to anyone who was affected and to anyone in relations with the dead
 
Not to sound like I'm belittling the tragedy, 'Mom, but I do see this sort of thing as largely a product of American culture. There are lots of measures taken in reaction to these types of events, but comparatively little done to really prevent it, outside of making fusses and pointing fingers at "influences." It's just part of the overall blame game.

Right...so Canada is so much higher and mightier culture-wise compared to American? I personally think Canadian culture is just as susceptible to pointing fingers at unrelated reasons when there are things like shooting tragedies, as well as any other culture out there. Just go run up the tree you fell from, why don't you...:nonono:

Shooter's dead. What more can you ask for?

Surely you don't believe that death solves everything, do you? There will now be even more questions since the shooter is dead..

Also, my thoughts go out to all the victims/families.
 
Right...so Canada is so much higher and mightier culture-wise compared to American?

To put it bluntly? ... Yes, I could easily make that argument. I won't, of course, because I'm not stupid, but the basis is there. Our cultures are similar, but the effects of how we respond to our problems are quite different.

It's a cold, heartless fact that Canada has fewer school shootings than America does. While not enough to claim any kind of superiority, it does make one question what in American culture seems to be the trigger for this kind of thing.

Surely you don't believe that death solves everything, do you? There will now be even more questions since the shooter is dead..

Yes, there will be questions. However, what sort of "justice" do you propose? The shooter is dead. What kind of punishments can be meted out by the courts now? The only way "justice" can possibly be served at this point would be if living accomplices were found and arrested. Then they could be tried and sentenced accordingly. However, all that can be done is, basically, to heal up and try to prevent this sort of thing from happening again.

It's not always about "let's bring this person to justice." You can't simply respond to every violent act with heated emotion.
 
Everyone was too busy looking for scapegoats: "Look at this Rammstein influence! Look, Doom trained him as a killer!" and that kind of thing.


well I agree many people play Doom/ Shooter games and it is pretty pathetic people even say that stuff.
 
I can just smell the Jack Thompson machine revving up for another go at the video game industry...
 
stabbing and shooting on the rise in the UK too. :( And we have relatively strict gun laws.

I do think that our strict gun laws reduce the scale of gun crime in the UK and the USA's rather liberal interpretation of the right to bear arms makes events such as Columbine and Now VA Tech inevitable. Automatic weapons :( Why???

Whilst it is true that: guns don't kill people, People do. With lots more automatic weapons you must be much more likely to end up with a bigger body count when someone does start shooting.

I feel for the families - the grief must be unbearable.
 
It's a true tragedy, the loss of all those innocent lives sadens me to the core.

To me the best memorial to their lives would be the total banning of fire arms – how many more are going to have to die before we realise that the gun laws were created in a totally different era.

Guns don’t kill people, people kill people – but guns make it a heck of a lot easier.
 
I was heartbroken to hear about this tragedy. This video with Moby singing Extreme Ways really describes how their is so much evil in the world.
 
To put it bluntly? ... Yes, I could easily make that argument. I won't, of course, because I'm not stupid, but the basis is there. Our cultures are similar, but the effects of how we respond to our problems are quite different.

It's a cold, heartless fact that Canada has fewer school shootings than America does. While not enough to claim any kind of superiority, it does make one question what in American culture seems to be the trigger for this kind of thing.

Hmm...well, we can also look at it this way also. Canada has a comperatively lower population, with less people per area inhabiting a place in that barren wasteland. So yeah, you can obviously expect there to be less shootings, given that there are less people per area and thus lower tendancies amongst those people to start shooting. And indeed, at least you're not stupid enough to start a Canada is superior argument.

Yes, there will be questions. However, what sort of "justice" do you propose? The shooter is dead. What kind of punishments can be meted out by the courts now? The only way "justice" can possibly be served at this point would be if living accomplices were found and arrested. Then they could be tried and sentenced accordingly. However, all that can be done is, basically, to heal up and try to prevent this sort of thing from happening again.

It's not always about "let's bring this person to justice." You can't simply respond to every violent act with heated emotion.

Well, it's not so much justice regarding some psychotic shooter, but rather for the victims and helping them to bring a sense of closure to this horrible event. And I don't see your point in bringing people to justice being heated emotion. In fact, in your cold, logical head, you obviously fail to grasp what emotions can do to a person. I'd even venture to say you probably would be responding more differently, had this event happened and impacted someone close to you. But no, you're stuck in your cozy area some thousand miles from this, so you can make your "cold, logical" judgments on American society.
 
Shooter's dead. What more can you ask for?
Just because the shooter is dead does not mean justice is served. In most cases it would be, but in this case The families and friends need to be comforted. It might not sound like justice, but if you have a love one who was murderd you know what it fells like.
 
Just because the shooter is dead does not mean justice is served. In most cases it would be, but in this case The families and friends need to be comforted. It might not sound like justice, but if you have a love one who was murderd you know what it fells like.

100% agreed
the fact that the killer wont get justice makes it that much harder
but even if he was, all the pain and sorrow of losing a loved one wont just simply fade away, that is what makes it so hard
 
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