Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

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1-1 Shedinja
2 Tornadus EX
3-0-3 Crobat
3 Ditto
2-2 Raticate

2 N
4 Bicycle
4 Juniper
3 Pokemon Catcher
2 Virbank City Gym
3 Rare Candy
4 Hypnotoxic Laser
3 Ultra Ball
4 First Ticket
1 Scramble Switch
2 Pokemon Communication
1 Aspertia City Gym

6 Psychic
4 Double Colorless Energy

This deck is pretty straight forward. You go first 85% of the time. You draw a lot. Hammer with poison. Take cheap prizes. Best part is, it'll only cost you $95.05 (or less) to build if you have to buy every single card in the list and you'll have a very competitive deck!
 
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Like the concept. Feel there should be more status heal cause lasers can stall and let them catch up. I like how most pokemon only gove up 1 prize so its harder than an EX war. But i feel whoever is playing this deck should be careful of keeping that mew on the bench for too long. Good Deck!
 
Nah. The Pokemon in this deck are meant to be disposable for the most part. Playing this your opponent has the disadvantage of going second most of the time, has to KO 6 Pokemon, being one shotted and losing all their energy in the process, and never having a "good" target to attack. Pretty sure I found the card I was looking for at any rate.
 
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Nah. The Pokemon in this deck are meant to be disposable for the most part. Playing this your opponent has the disadvantage of going second most of the time, has to KO 6 Pokemon, being one shotted and losing all their energy in the process, and never having a "good" target to attack. Pretty sure I found the card I was looking for at any rate.
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Can I ask what card you found? Liepard maybe?
 
Well, I have it narrowed down to a couple of basics. Liepard would be great for a fun deck as it would put your opponent well behind the 8 ball when it went off, but I don't think it would be terribly competitive.
 
The options for basics are Kyurem DRV and Minun DEX. The main issue they present is having to add Prism to the deck, which cuts your consistency a bit. That and in order to sneak the Kyurem in, you need to have a Prism Energy and Scramble Switch to pull it off so it isn't that reliable. Kyurem also has a hefty retreat with such a low Energy count.

Tornadus EX (non Plasma) could also be a good option.
 
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I don't see the point of Shedinja. 60 HP, level 1 ... attacking for 1 energy is nice but you only put 3 damage counters and that's a rather low output. Plus , all the deck is under pressure early game versus Big basics (especially Tornadus EX). How do you intend to play against it ?
Aother thing I have trouble to understand . Keldeo have mid game a strong firepower (110-130) enough to wipe out any of your attackers . I understand many of your pokemon are disposable , but you need a pokemon strong enough to KO Keldeo. Is Raticate enough for Keldeo, and black kyurem ? Even if accelgor must help in this matchup, It remains unclear how to conduct the matchup . I Will test it at home and see how it goes.
 
is there a report of it ? It would help in suggesting new ideas.
also, can someone clarify the 85% probability of going first ? I'd like to have the details of the calculus.
 
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I don't see the point of Shedinja. 60 HP, level 1 ... attacking for 1 energy is nice but you only put 3 damage counters and that's a rather low output. Plus , all the deck is under pressure early game versus Big basics (especially Tornadus EX). How do you intend to play against it ?
Aother thing I have trouble to understand . Keldeo have mid game a strong firepower (110-130) enough to wipe out any of your attackers . I understand many of your pokemon are disposable , but you need a pokemon strong enough to KO Keldeo. Is Raticate enough for Keldeo, and black kyurem ? Even if accelgor must help in this matchup, It remains unclear how to conduct the matchup . I Will test it at home and see how it goes.
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The point of Shedinja- once you hit a couple of ex with Raticate and they go to the bench to lick their wounds, you drop Shedinja and ko both of them. When your opponent KOs Shedinja, they get no prize for doing so.

85% chance of going first- you have a 70% chance of having any card that you have 4 of in your deck in your opening hand- First Ticket. 30% of the time you have a coin flip where you have a 50% chance of going first, ala 85% cumulatively.

Big basics- Raticate + Laser KOs anything. Crobat + Virbank KOs anything that stays active on your ensuing turn. All you have to do is pass for the KO in fact, or if they have a 30HP bench sitter, drop Shedinja and KO it and the active will die from poison.
 
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Believe me its not 85%. 50% of going first witch a bonus 7/60 for starting with a first ticket. However since you would have started anyway half the times you have a first ticket this bonus is cut in half. So the end result would be more like 55%.
 
Isn't the deck clunky?

I honestly feel Raticate, Lasers, and Ditto are fine.

A tornadus EX is fine, but Crobat? Pass

Shedinja? Maybe, I could see where he'd be good but there's always a catch.
 
LV18 Slowbro said:
Isn't the deck clunky?

I honestly feel Raticate, Lasers, and Ditto are fine.

A tornadus EX is fine, but Crobat? Pass

Shedinja? Maybe, I could see where he'd be good but there's always a catch.
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Not clunky at all actually (I know it looks like it could be on paper, but paper is often misleading). Crobat is important in the deck as it gives extra draw every turn along with being a solid attacker that isn't psychic weak and has free retreat.

MirChamp said:
Believe me its not 85%. 50% of going first witch a bonus 7/60 for starting with a first ticket. However since you would have started anyway half the times you have a first ticket this bonus is cut in half. So the end result would be more like 55%.
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The math I was relying on was flawed, so I searched out a more credible source. So that leaves 66.33% of the time having to flip a coin. Half of that time the flip will go in your favor. 33.67%+33.17%= 66.94% of the time you will go first. While that obviously isn't as good as 85%, it is dramatically better than 50-55%, and this deck loves to go first.
 
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Palbert6393 said:
wont the first ticktets get in the way of the bicycles?
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Sometimes, but you have to be able to get out of the gate in front of the big basics before you are concerned with your draw. Besides, Ultra Ball and Juniper get rid of those extra ones quite nicely.
 
I like it. Its interesting and different. Please post a report of how you do in whatever tourney you play this in so we can know how you do. In this format has the potential for so many good rogue decks, so im glad to see people getting creative with all the cards that are out.
 
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