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VGC 2013-2014 XY format officially announced

CyberManectric

CyberManectric

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Today the format for the Gen VI games X&Y have been announced. Here is a quick summary:

Standard VGC format: Double Battles, 4 Pokémon picked of the 6, as usual.
•Pokémon only within the Kalos Pokédex are allowed
•Pokémon which have been transferred from Generation V using Pokémon Bank are not allowed. You can breed these Pokémon to raise a new Pokémon, but you cannot use the Pokémon that were transferred
•Mega Evolutions & Hidden Abilities are allowed
•Illegally modified Pokémon are banned
For more information on the in-depth rules, such as tie-breakers, click the link to the official site.
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So there you have it; the VGC format for our upcoming Regionals!

Source: http://assets22.pokemon.com/assets/...14/Play_Pokemon_VG_Rules_and_Formats_2014.pdf
~Cyber~
 
Will be different for sure, especially since Dark Void Smeargle is free to try terrorizing opponents again.
 
For those of you who are wanting to know-

Each Pokémon caught or breed in X/Y have a blue colored Pentagon shaped symbol in the "summery" drop down menu window.

Here is an image of a X/Y Pokémon screen shot image: http://images.search.yahoo.com/imag...57lm&sigi=12t33tf0d&.crumb=U4FDbk05wEM&fr=w3i


That little blue symbol just below Fenniken just left of the 6 "marking" symbols is what is required to accompany the Pokémon you will use in the battles.

Without that symbol= you may not use that Pokémon as it did not originate from an X/Y game cartridge.
 
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So Zapdos is destine to be bad for VGC then. Are these rules only for the first tournament or is this forever. If this is true, I'm not playing this game anymore. I spent WAY too much time raising my Pokemon.
 
Great. This means I'm going to have to breed an entire team of Pokemon for this championship. Do you know how time-consuming (and unfair) that is?

- Croatian_Nidoking
 
It may be time consuming and seem unfair that you may not be able to use transported Pokémon- this is a price we need to pay for the new implementation of trying to stop cheating in the tournaments.

Here are some ways to quicken the pace to get a team of 6:

Partner up with a friend and do this--
You breed for a Pokémon they want, and they do the same for you. This way you both can trade those breed Pokémon. REASON: Traded Pokémon gain experience faster, and feel free to use the Lucky Egg.

This will cut down time, since you are not raising a Pokémon that will not gain the average pace of leveling up.

Use Feathers, Vitamins, and Power training to get the EV's faster.

Breed with SZ Pokémon, use the Destiny Knot and Power Bracelets when breeding. Toss in the Everstone.

Find hordes to boost the EV's obtained when EV training.

Use Pokerus (it is out there, finding a person who has it and will trade a Pokie with it is rather easy)

You only need to raise a Pokémon to level 50- if you EV it at level 1 using all the newer methods and techs- you will have a battle worthy Pokémon in less time you think.

Look- it does stink to have to switch over to the new- but this switch over to the new is a major step into the best direction for the competitive scene.

I should write up an article on how to bust out a tourney worthy Pokémon in no time with all the new mechs and techs in the game.............
 
The biggest deal for this is most of the Pokemon I use are not good in Gen 6 because of the lack of good move tutors. I also work and go to school full time AND I'm working on a movie that will keep me busy for 3+ years. I do not have the time to breed and train new Pokemon. This also makes the Pokemon Bank software worth absolutely worthless because nothing we bring over can't be used for anything official. They need to kill that rule with fire because its completely unfair for players who spent the time, energy and/or money to play someone to train Pokemon.
 
I feel your pain C_N_ and Vaporeon. I put a lot of work into some of my pokemon that I'd hoped I'd be able to use once pokebank was up and running as well. Unfortunately even though I don't like to do so, occasionally I have to play the devil's advocate. I guess it's like any of our (somewhat) yearly modified announcements for the trading card game. Sure, it nerfs all the effort experienced pokemon players have put in on their past teams, but it also gives a lot of new players the opportunity to be on the same playing field. I sincerely doubt anyone who has been playing since Blue and Red will be entirely happy with this announcement, but at least they have some resources to work with to stay somewhat competitive. TPCi more or less is counting on their continued playing .... whether they like the announcement or not. Let's face it, most of us here have been playing for years. We're probably not going to quit due to a newly introduced ripple. We'll just grumble a bit and carry on .... and find a way to do our best with what we have to work with. The bottom line is that all players will be on the same equal footing. It's not necessarily fun for all, but bottom line .... it's fair.


Just so you know however, I have the pokerus, and have given it to a lot of Dittos that I've harvested from the Friend Safari - many of which have maxed out IV's. I'm willing to supply those to friends here on the gym as a service .... more or less free of charge. Just put in my friend code and pm me that you've done so. Give me your code as well, and we can find a time to trade whatever you like for them. If you can help me out, great, but that's not why I'm doing it. I'm only doing this as a favor to everyone here.
 
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This rule effectively ruins a lot of people because XY lacks what the past Gens had. With my current work load, I can't train my pokemon again. There are way too many of them to take on. I have no reason to continue to play pokemon competitively anymore. Its like they are trying to force out older players.
 
It could be possible that a "test run" is being done to make certain that the new system works. When you transfer over, the system is (to my understanding) going to filter out cheated/hacked Pokémon. Things like level 9 Dialga's and the sort.

When people ask for "fair"- you will need to understand and accept the changes made to accomplish that goal of fairness across the board.

Change is supposed to be good- and not everyone likes change. Understandable. But look at the changes being made and what is requested with in those changes that were made.

You want to battle via wi-fi? You really want to lose to a hacked/cheated team? Would you like to see more wi-fi tournies with prizes?

Sure- I am losing a great amount of past work on Pokies I breed for tournies. But after these changes- it outweighs the many times my own personal hard ork went down the drain to a hacked/cheated team.

I agree with P_A - This change should have come a long time ago. But thee had to be enough support an demand for more fairness in the VGC scene.

This is a victory to those who do not cheat/hack. All of you past work is not wasted- it made you a better competitive player all around.

I have played since the Red/Blue days................ and have many a times defeated cheated/hacked teams all around.

This is a change that has transferred the TCG's "Spirit of the game" aspect into our domain, our turf of knowing what we have all been striving forward with to make our efforts to not only build the best team with an undefeated strategy into a reward that is backed by TCPI. Nintendo, Gamefreak,and the over all VGC player base.

Believe it or not- all of my Pokemon are not RNG'd on my W2 cart. That cart has many years of transfer/event/breed/ - you name it-- on there.

I take pride in knowing all of my stuff is legit, and my histories and victories are proof that I have what it takes to be one among the best trainers and battles out there.

Sure- I do not compete for trading in that for staffing- but- I can still hang with the best and know that at least the effort and changes are with the intentions for the better t the VGC.

I have not liked many changes to what is allowed in the changing formats- but, I still pull through in one way shape form or another.

You all are no alone, ad people such as myself are out there and willing to assist you fellow VG'rs out.

Look at it this way:

I like to help, because I know that if you have had my help- I know that in return you will give me a great battle. And if you make it to take 1st place in a tourney and I helped you- I can share in that victory a little.

I am going to be some old man one day day who can look back and laugh at this change and complain some about more new changes-

but those changes will not take the trainer away from me since the game brings me the type of gaming I enjoy.

I simply will "drudge through" these changes like I have in the past- but knowing that more efforts are being done to keep me from being ripped off of a victory and my time is truly wasted-

I will take this change in a heart beat because losing to a cheater who wasted my time is way worse then the format change at hand.

Not being a suck-up when I say this- but thanks TCPI/Nintendo/Gamefreak for listening to the player base. A victory over cheating and hacking at this time is far better then a small complaint in the changes to the format.
 
Its not fair for use collage students who do school full time and or work. We all have other projects we are working on to make money in our lives and them not allowing us to use the Pokemon we spent years raising places us at a disadvantage. This is thousands of people who are affected by that sentence. Hack checks have always been in place and the games are getting better at finding them. It feels like they are selling out just about every adult who plays competitively.
 
Stick'd the information, leaving this one open for discussion.
 
vaporeon said:
Its not fair for use collage students who do school full time and or work. We all have other projects we are working on to make money in our lives and them not allowing us to use the Pokemon we spent years raising places us at a disadvantage. This is thousands of people who are affected by that sentence. Hack checks have always been in place and the games are getting better at finding them. It feels like they are selling out just about every adult who plays competitively.
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It also isn't fair for new players who haven't invested as much time in the games as veteran players who have more at their disposal.

I'm personally in favor of this as it a.) stops old hacked Pokemon, and b.) gives a chance to players who were once dissuaded from playing due to the complexities of raising a team. This way everyone is on even ground, plus with the current IV breeding mechanincs you can easily replicate most Pokemon, meaning you won't be in for as much of a time sink anyway. (took me less than a day to get a satisfactory Greninja with 5 IVs, and I had to build up to that)

This is probably only this year's format anyway, as with the first BW format there restrictions to only BW Pokemon, and obviously that didn't last.
 
Regis_Neo said:
Will be different for sure, especially since Dark Void Smeargle is free to try terrorizing opponents again.
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I don't think so...
Pokémon may only use moves that have been learned through one of the following methods:
  • By leveling up
  • By TM or HM
  • As an Egg Move, through breeding
  • From a character in the game
  • A move already known by a Pokémon received at an official Pokémon event or promotion
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TheRolesWePlay said:
It also isn't fair for new players who haven't invested as much time in the games as veteran players who have more at their disposal.

I'm personally in favor of this as it a.) stops old hacked Pokemon, and b.) gives a chance to players who were once dissuaded from playing due to the complexities of raising a team. This way everyone is on even ground, plus with the current IV breeding mechanincs you can easily replicate most Pokemon, meaning you won't be in for as much of a time sink anyway. (took me less than a day to get a satisfactory Greninja with 5 IVs, and I had to build up to that)

This is probably only this year's format anyway, as with the first BW format there restrictions to only BW Pokemon, and obviously that didn't last.
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I dont have a problem with this being the rules for the first tournament but there is nothing saying these rules will change after, which is a pretty big deal. As for it being fair, its not fair for those who already did the work. You for one should know I'm all about fair play for all but cutting out a age group who does not have the time to train and breed anymore is far from fair.

Now, I do know I can still use my Pokemon in causal play with friends, which I intend to do, but I want to use them competitively. Many of my Pokemon have been around since Gen 3 and I still use them. They mean a lot to me then just data on a cart. A lot of the changes Pokemon has been making are affecting my personal life and I'm starting to feel alienated. I'm sure I'm not the only who who feels this way.
 
Then the secret to happiness Vaporeon is not to take it so personally. Perhaps it might be good to step back, distance yourself from the situation, so you can see things in a different light. I had to do that. It was worth it.
 
I do share that "it is not just data" bit to some degree of attatchment. Normal to do so when passion is involved.

The one thing that keeps me from being so "dislike" for the new changes:

Passion does not care about changes by way of obstacles that you know you can adjust to in remaining happy and deriving that happiness based on the original reason to be passionate about something in the first place.
 
Pajamas said:
I don't think so...
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You do realize that the rules pretty much support it being legal? Dark Void is a move learned by Darkrai, an officially released event Pokemon. Smeargle learns Sketch, an in-game move. Breed your Smeargle in XY, transfer Darkrai via Pokebank, Sketch Dark Void. That's why they normally specifically ban moves like Dark Void, because while Darkrai is normally banned and it's the only Pokemon that naturally learns it, Smeargle can Sketch it to have it.
 
vaporeon said:
I dont have a problem with this being the rules for the first tournament but there is nothing saying these rules will change after, which is a pretty big deal. As for it being fair, its not fair for those who already did the work. You for one should know I'm all about fair play for all but cutting out a age group who does not have the time to train and breed anymore is far from fair.

Now, I do know I can still use my Pokemon in causal play with friends, which I intend to do, but I want to use them competitively. Many of my Pokemon have been around since Gen 3 and I still use them. They mean a lot to me then just data on a cart. A lot of the changes Pokemon has been making are affecting my personal life and I'm starting to feel alienated. I'm sure I'm not the only who who feels this way.
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I'll point out again that VGC changes rules pretty often, last year was the first to keep them consistent.
 
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