Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Werewolf IX (Team Galactic's Plot) ENDGAME AND ANALYSIS!!!!!

Ok fine, I'll take his word for it too.

UNVOTE: Undecided
VOTE: Z-man\

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shinygyarados said:
hmmmmmm....
This one struck me as interesting. Absoltrainer has made up several roles, and I do not think that they have all been revealed yet. We know that someone is an electric pokemon becuase of references in the "what happened" posts. Why not Z-Man and why not Rotom?

Second of all... Come on!!! Two nights in a row, everyone targets the same person and everyone fails!!! I do not think that it was cardz this time however. It looks like the same people(aura pokemon(Lucario) detective with files) targeted this new person(hatter? mew*?) as the last one. Cardz asked for the same protection as he did in round one and we know that someone was given the same protection, but to our knowledge that person was not targeted.
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You seemed to have answered your own question....

The reason why I don't believe Z-man to be the pixalating pokemon is because everyone targeted the same pokemon/player as they did the first night. (Aside from the pixalating pokemon/pure of heart protection) ....well okay maybe that logic doesn't make all that much sence, but I swear it made perfect logic when I thought of it two minutes ago! ...hold on, lets try this....

First off, we've pretty much came to the conclusion that Cardz was the pokemon targeted in the first night...Meaning Night 1 he was in the pure of heart barrier...

At the start of the round 2 night conclusion post, Absoltrainer said "MANY of the survivors approched the same pokemon and came to the same fate" Pretty much telling us that the pokemon in the pure of heart barrier was targeted again the second night. If you want more evidence pointing to this conclusion just read on...he goes on to explain how the detective was mad about his failure the night before and wants to make up for it...(this isn't nessisairly pointing towards being the same pokemon but it leads that way)

If it was cards who was protected by the pure of heart barrier the first night, then he was the one targeted again in the second night...This time we're specifically told that the targeted player IS a pokemon...and it IS the pixalating pokemon thats being targeted...
and saw someone else who was attempting to stalk this Pokemon
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pixilation and electronic garble that had just been emitted from the Pokemon they were watching
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If all shumuzzles are treired and all gehknobs are shumuzzles then all gehonobs are defenitly treired.....
Meaning...the target of night 2 was targeted night one, and the target of night one was Cardz, then Cardz was targeted night 2.
Also meaning...if the target of night two was a pixalating pokemon and Cardz was targeted night two then Cardz is a pixalating pokemon....
...Kinda reminds me of Algebretic Identaties....

Then the pixalating pokemon can't be Rotom, because Cardz said that after night 1 he evolved...and Rotom is a basic....?!? (not like thats much information anyways)

Back to Madhatter and Z-Man....
Why are you switching to z-man so easily....All Madhatter did was stongly suggested that he knows z-man is a wolf....how ever he HASN'T told you how he knew....AND YOUR ALL LISTENING TO HIM?!?
Z-man, hasn't really done anything aside from asking " How do you "know" that I'm a wolf" which at first seems like he admited to being a wolf, however he put the know in quotations....I don't see ANY reason to vote z-man off (at least not yet) ....How ever I will not vote for Madhatter either, his lack of information and his "feeling he will be dead sometime very soon" seems misleading....I WANT AN EXPLINATION!!!

Actually I want Cardz to post something useful today...and since the only way he'll be killed is by being lynched...he'll have to at least defend himself....

Cardz I challenge you and your pixalating ways! Give us your oppinion or be lynched!

Unvote: Undecided
Vote: Cardz
 
sdrawkcab said:
You seemed to have answered your own question....

The reason why I don't believe Z-man to be the pixalating pokemon is because everyone targeted the same pokemon/player as they did the first night. (Aside from the pixalating pokemon/pure of heart protection) ....well okay maybe that logic doesn't make all that much sence, but I swear it made perfect logic when I thought of it two minutes ago! ...hold on, lets try this....

First off, we've pretty much came to the conclusion that Cardz was the pokemon targeted in the first night...Meaning Night 1 he was in the pure of heart barrier...

At the start of the round 2 night conclusion post, Absoltrainer said "MANY of the survivors approched the same pokemon and came to the same fate" Pretty much telling us that the pokemon in the pure of heart barrier was targeted again the second night. If you want more evidence pointing to this conclusion just read on...he goes on to explain how the detective was mad about his failure the night before and wants to make up for it...(this isn't nessisairly pointing towards being the same pokemon but it leads that way)

If it was cards who was protected by the pure of heart barrier the first night, then he was the one targeted again in the second night...This time we're specifically told that the targeted player IS a pokemon...and it IS the pixalating pokemon thats being targeted...


If all shumuzzles are treired and all gehknobs are shumuzzles then all gehonobs are defenitly treired.....
Meaning...the target of night 2 was targeted night one, and the target of night one was Cardz, then Cardz was targeted night 2.
Also meaning...if the target of night two was a pixalating pokemon and Cardz was targeted night two then Cardz is a pixalating pokemon....
...Kinda reminds me of Algebretic Identaties....

Then the pixalating pokemon can't be Rotom, because Cardz said that after night 1 he evolved...and Rotom is a basic....?!? (not like thats much information anyways)
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I see what you mean, but I dont think that you understand what I was rreferencing to. When I said an Electric Pokemon I was talking about the "Flash of lightning" and the "Lightning attack of a different magnitude" in the first what happened during the night post. I understand that these could be Pichu's and Pikachu's blast of Lightning, but Im not totally sure so Im going to put it in here anyway.


One more thing. In the second night report it shows that there were two Pokemon in magical bubbles. One was a "Pure Of Heart" and one was "elctrical Garbeling". When Absoltrainer says that
MANY of the survivors approached the same Pokemon during the night
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I believe he was saying just that we all approached the same pokemon as each other. Not the same one as the night before. As I said before, I think Cardz was in the "Pure of Heart" barrier that was seen later by the file man, instead of the one that was "Electrically Garbeling(sp?)" And since everyone was at the electric one, and no one was at the heart one, everyone targeted the same person (who I beleive to be either mew* or hatter) and that person was probably not cardz since it would stand to reason that whoever placed the pure of heart barrier around him last night, would think he was in the same amount of danger as this night.
Summary: Cardz was not the target of Last nights roles(except for "Pure of Heart") and is therefore not Rotom.

Back to Madhatter and Z-Man....
Why are you switching to z-man so easily....All Madhatter did was stongly suggested that he knows z-man is a wolf....how ever he HASN'T told you how he knew....AND YOUR ALL LISTENING TO HIM?!?
Z-man, hasn't really done anything aside from asking " How do you "know" that I'm a wolf" which at first seems like he admited to being a wolf, however he put the know in quotations....I don't see ANY reason to vote z-man off (at least not yet) ....How ever I will not vote for Madhatter either, his lack of information and his "feeling he will be dead sometime very soon" seems misleading....I WANT AN EXPLINATION!!!

Actually I want Cardz to post something useful today...and since the only way he'll be killed is by being lynched...he'll have to at least defend himself....

Cardz I challenge you and your pixalating ways! Give us your oppinion or be lynched!
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I dont have anything to say to this. I just kept it in cause thats what I would say.

VOTE: UNDECIDED
 
I seriously doubt that Cardz is a wolf. Why would you even vote for him sdrawkcab? We know from the events of Night 1 that he clearly can't be a wolf.

Shinygyarados brings up good points, but there is something I'd like to draw all of your attention to. See my bolded comments/notations.
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Absoltrainer said:
There was another extremely busy night for the villagers. MANY of the survivors approached the same Pokemon during the night and all met the same fate. This is referenced to tonight, not last night, which would make sense, as he's giving Night 2 update, not Night 1 update. The first to reach said Pokemon was a person holding a file. He was angry at his failure the past night and was going to make up for it this time. As he approached his target, he began to read the file he had on this Pokemon. Suddenly however, the area around him pixilated and an electronic gargle that was familiar to when Lakak was found without a mouth. He looked back at the file he had and was confused when he found the file wiped completely clean leaving only blank paper. He heard a cry of disgust come from the bushes near him and saw someone else who was attempting to stalk this Pokemon get frustrated and thwarted by the pixilation and electronic garble that had just been emitted from the Pokemon they were watching. The little bit of info he received would be all he would be able to go on it seemed.

This person was extremely stealthy and held a knife in his hand. He snuck up on the Pokemon and waited, then attempted to strike. His attack however was countered and this assassin was thrown down by a pixilated shield. See my notes Below

He watched this Aura Pokemon fall to the same fate as all the others had. A pixilation and gargled electronic shield resulting in the counter and rebound of any attempts to approach its target.

This was definitely a time to get the heck out of there thought the person watching all of these events. As he ran back to the safety of the beach, he smacked into something. As he gathered himself he realized that he had hit the “pure of heart” barrier from the night before. He also realized that he was at least half a mile away from the Pokemon he wanted to stalk. That meant someone else was being protected by this barrier this night. So what was happening with the Pokemon he and many others were attempting to affect.

Absoltrainer said:
Ikrit - Togepi
Role: Happiness
Once during the night, you may PM me the name of a player you want to make happy. They will become overjoyed and smile all day long. Despite your good intentions, I guarantee you that if a person smiles too much during a time of killing, it does not make them look very good. Your ability may be more dangerous then you think…at least to those around you.

Win Condition: Town Wins
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Interesting ability.
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Some things relating to my notations. The last story bit there gives us a key clue into the rest of the update. Clearly, from the discoveries of the detective, we can say that the Pure of Heart barrier was not protecting Cardz. This is obvious from the fact that he said a "different person" than last night. Thus, the Pure of Heart Barrier was placed upon someone else. Now, what happened to Cardz? Well, he luksacked with the advent of a second preist. The Pixely-electronic garble shield (Um.... Porygon, anyone?) was used for the protection of Cardz. Which was awesome by the way. The reason I think it was Cardz protected by the garbly sheild, is because I honestly don't believe that so many people would have targeted anyone else....

So:
Lucario tries to go to Cardz once more. Fails.
Detective, trying to regain his honor (lol Zuko) Might have Failed. (I think he got something... IMO)
Biter again tries. Fails.
Seer 1 Tries. Fails.
Assassin Tries to kill Cardz. Fails.

The assassin bit has me confused. We've determined that Cardz isn't a wolf, so why go after him? Did he think he was an Indie or something?

Right now, I don't know if MadHatter's role call is on the up-and-up... we saw something to that affect Day 2, but it didn't pan out... (and got us a Wolf as a byproduct...)

Anyway, I'm reserving my vote until I see some proof for a Z-man or any other vote.

VOTE: UNDECIDED
 
I strongly believe that Cardz was NOT the one in the electronic barrier but that he was still in the pure of heart barrier. "Make up for it" does not necessarily mean that he went for the same person. It could simply mean that he failed last night and thought that he would succeed the next night. Cardz asked for protection from the preist on day one, and then was put in the "pure" barrier. He asked for the very same protection the next day. Why would someone else choose to help him if it was obvious he was already getting help?

One more thing. Why would so many people go for the same person 2 days in a row? It was obvious that Cardz was going to have protection on night 2. Why would everyone choose someone who was going to be protected? To me it is obvious that Cardz was protected, but not by the electronic garbeling.

As always:

VOTE: UNDECIDED

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shinygyarados said:
I strongly believe that Cardz was NOT the one in the electronic barrier but that he was still in the pure of heart barrier. "Make up for it" does not necessarily mean that he went for the same person. It could simply mean that he failed last night and thought that he would succeed the next night. Cardz asked for protection from the preist on day one, and then was put in the "pure" barrier. He asked for the very same protection the next day. Why would someone else choose to help him if it was obvious he was already getting help?

One more thing. Why would so many people go for the same person 2 days in a row? It was obvious that Cardz was going to have protection on night 2. Why would everyone choose someone who was going to be protected? To me it is obvious that Cardz was protected, but not by the electronic garbeling.

As always:

VOTE: UNDECIDED

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Well, its no suprise that Cardz was targeted night one, by just about everyone but the wolves, who killed someone else. The second night, you'd think most people would learn their lesson and not target a person obviously protected from all effects. As to your first question at the end of the first paragraph, I suspect this has something to do with Cardz role. I don't know if priests can protect themselves, but I guess its possible. Cardz may have some ability which allows him to protect someone, and he may have decided to protect himself, not relying on another priest to protect him. I'm still sticking with my vote for now, and I am strongly against killing Z-man (atleast for now), and I also don't see the effectiveness in voting for Cardz since he's obviously not a wolf.
 
i dont think so many people would of bothered trying to target cardz as he clearly asked for help again and would of been a waste of a night and there is nothing to suggest that z-man is a wolf currently other than someone elses word with nothing to back it up
so for the time being
vote:undecided
 
I want to join in this debate.

I really and truly do.

But I'm starving and have been working since around 7:30 this morning with K-5 students.

I'll be on later with my analysis and defense.

And backwards is voting for me knowing full well I'm not a Wolf. he did it in II and he'll do it again.

Also, Hatter, please respond. You have me muy confused...

...carry on!
 
homeofmew.... that's really pathetic...it has long been ruled out he's not a wolf...

That post just makes you look like a wolf. That's not the first time you tried to vote him off.

I think you're just trying to vote him off since always seems to get invincibility, so the only way you wolves can get rid of him is during the day...

wow.
Unvote: Z-man
VOTE: homeofmew

I mean, I see more evidence pointing in your behavior that you're a wolf than Hatter's little claim on Z-man.

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Alright now this is stupid. Five different people are being voted for. Stop trying to start bandwagons, because apparently they're not working. Why, I could just vote for Mew* right now, because that was a completely rediculous vote!
 
Mew* I haven't read most of the thread, lol I was away for the last 11 days because of Hurricane issues. (Hurricane IKE)

4 games in a row being a wolf/seer? BAH. Whatever you guys wanna think!

Un vote: Cardzmaster2004

Vote: Z-Man

Reason: Hurricane clean up/majority bandwagon
 
-yawn-
Two seer roles failed. I believe HATTER :)O) is a wolf. I mean seriously, aren't there only like 2-3 seers in a WW game? IIRC bandwagon starting is a very wolfy thing, right guys? Hatter also clearly said that he "found out" my role through methods other than a seer role. Maybe he means by guessing? :)
Vote: Madhatter
 
I don't know about him being a wolf, although it is possible. For the same reason Jason was lynched, saying stuff like "I have a feeling I won't last long"(or whatever he said exactly), and just voting and giving no explanation tells me he doesn't care. He might aswell be saying "meh". Hey, last time we got rid of another wolf, who knows what will happen this time?
 
OK, Josh and I have been talking and we have decided that the following is the best course of action for all of us...

...huh?

Oh, Josh and I talked about the game outside of the game?

YOU CALL BLASPHEMY!!!

Well, you'd be wrong.

Because Josh and I are a Town-Aligned Masonic group.

I will explain the further details of our alliance in just a moment, but first let me say that Josh does have accurate information. He has informed me that he is a pseudo-Seer, meaning that he can see visions but they do not always succeed. This is a humorous situation, but I'll get to that here in a second. Basically, he had targeted z-man one night and his vision went through. And when it came back, he saw that z-man was a Wolf. So, I'm vouching for him and putting my vote toward him.

VOTE: z-man

Also, this explains my ease with voting off Jason last night even though I was pretty sure Brawler was the Wolf. They acted as a pair and, since Josh and I were sitting as non-suicidal Masons, I had a pretty strong guess that the two of them were Brother Masons.

Why that guess? Well, there are always a few recurring themes in our Board Wolfs. There is always some sort of Masonic group (usually more than one, but only one usually Indie). The Roleblocker usually uses some sort of electrical blast. I am ALWAYS the target for night roles (seriously, people, choose someone else tomorrow night; the Pure of Heart dude is protecting me). And Eevees always evolve.

What?

Yeah, its true. I received Hot_Carl's role from the Original Werewolf game. My evolution was quite fun, but I haven't had the chance to use it yet since I'm constantly stuck inside the Priest barrier. Which, for now is a good thing. When I am able to use my role, I will inform the town of this, since I believe that I will be protected for some time.

For the next game night, I would like to note the following:

1) Priest/whoever: Still protect me. From last night we can definitely see that we're not out of the woods yet. Also, homeofmew and backwards, I'm not a Wolf since having a Wolf inside a Priest barrier makes it impossible for the Wolves to get a kill. Since I've been stuck in there for the past X game nights and the Wolves have still killed (twice, mind you), I'm not a Wolf. Sorry, backwards, you aren't going to get an eloquent speech defending myself just quite yet. That, I believe will be coming on Day 5 if I make it there.

2) All other roles: DO NOT TARGET ME THIS COMING NIGHT!!! You will not get through and we will remain stalled on information again, just as we were for the past two nights. Logic can only take us so far. Our other roles need to function for the town to progress. We're technically two days behind the Wolves since everyone seems to target me. This is a bad thing. Target someone else and find out about them...

3) Assassin/Vig: There are no good targets for tonight, so I suggest you lay low unless you have a HUGELY strong guess at whom the Indie players are. As of now, I've no idea WHAT the indie roles are (or could be), so we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

And that is my short-ish big post for today. my vote goes to z-man, although it would have gone elsewhere had it not been for my Masonic group.

Paz a todo,

~Cardz.
 
Well, in the face of that logic...

UNVOTE: UNDECIDED

VOTE: Z-MAN

That Eevee role will be awesome!
 
Madhatter is not an idiot, guys. He's either a wolf, or correct, and he's probably not a wolf unless Cardz is a wolf.

Z-man: Last game there were two seers (MadHatter and Metricus) and two pseudo-seers (Azure Kite and Spoinkmaster).
It's possible...

If Cardz was the pixilator, why would he ask for protection? I think someone else is the pixilator, and I'm guessing that they are Porygon(2/Z).
 
Vote: Z-man

I'd like to know more about Cardz' role, but I have complete confidence that he's leading us in the right direction.
 
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