Werewolf XVIII: Dimensional Clash: Wolves/Outlaws Win!

[Sandslash7]

PMysterious

I'm glad that you have finally calmed down. Thank you. I'm bolding the important things so that no one misses them.

I am not a Vet. I can't stress this enough. A vet is not someone like me. I'm still learning and the pressure does not help. If anyone says I'm a Vet, that's not true and should be treated the same way. I'm more of a player between Newbie and Vet. I'm better than a Newbie, but worse than a Vet. So, Vet Reverence is still going on and you are not lynching a Vet at this time. Anyway, I am seriously sorry for my actions and I really hope you accept them enough to not lynch me. I'll be checking over and seeing how I can actually contribute to this game.

You and I are using two different definitions of the word "Vet."

In my view of the game, there are two kinds of players. Newbies and Vets. Newbies are those who have played 0-1 WW games. Vets are those who have played 2 or more games. That is it. there are no other stipulations or categories.

Your definition, with reference to where the definition comes from: Newbies have played few games (inference) and have lower skill level (from your post). Midders have played some games (inference) and have mid-level skill, not excellent or bad (logical inference). Vets have played some games (inference) and have higher skill level (from your post).

Let me put these two definitions side by side.



SS7: Vet = played some games
PM: Vet = played some games and has higher skill level.



I ask you to pick which one reinforces Vet Reverence more.


The one that reinforces VetRev is yours. Not mine. I have no description of skill in my definition. You do. Thus you are the one promoting VetRev here. Not me.

You are the one who brings up VetRev where it is not present.


I stand by my earlier claim. You are a vet, according to my definition which eschews Vet Reverence, and I am treating you like one. You are a player who has played in 3 Gym WW games, and so I am treating you like one.

Like I said, I'm not a Vet and I probably will never be a Vet, but I might someday.

You are a vet. Deal with it.

First off, before I get lynched, I just wanna say thank you for this advice and I'll be sure to use it in the future. Now, don't take what I said as me giving up, I'm still gonna go down fighting, but in a realistic point of view, there is no way out. I've noticed lately that I've complained that no one would listen to me, but now, it seems that I've been missing the one thing that is holding me back. I've lacked confidence in my own ability and really, it makes me sick to think that. So, as a Last Will, here are my current reads and please follow them.

1. Sandslash7- Scum (His play has been off from normal and is taking advantage of me.)

The reason why a majority of the people are null is because they are lurking like crazy. This is the behavior that bothers me. Lurking is not cool and even though I did it on MS, it was not cool and I admit it myself.

Also, I really ask to help the Enforcers out as I think they really don't have much left and I really want this game to be as fun as possible. The one thing that makes it not fun is when a faction is ran over quickly. Right now, at least 50% of the Enforcers are gone and no Werewolves and only 1 Outlaw has been found. If someone is an Enforcer, help that person out and please hunt for Outlaws and Werewolves. This is my will and I hope you all read this. As SS7 is my only real Scum read, I'll end on this note and I'll iso him this day.

Vote: Sandslash7 I think that's 9 on him already.

Please show me where my play has been "off from normal." I am playing very similarly to XV when I was the Town RRV. I elucidated my playstyle earlier, and noted where I must now make changes due to your play. I have not been any different from my standard.

Since you are a vet I expect you to back up your points with evidence.



@Benzo

I'm glad that you are using what little of the day we have left to at least poke someone else. It feels like D3 has been a complete wash due to PM's outburst and backtrack. With only ~10 hours left it seems like we won't get a lynch again.


@PM

I'm still voting for you. You have yet to convince me you were just hypothesizing that there were additional factions. You also have yet to convince me your role is one designed for the town to possess. You also have not outlined your case against me other than "(His play has been off from normal and is taking advantage of me.)" You are also trying to help the Enforcers get back in the game, which, if you believe your own hypothesized Enforcer WC, means an effective town loss. (3 enforcers left maximum means 3 or less other members of the village.)

 

[SMP88]

We're at L-5 I believe with 5 hours left. People need to get on and at least make a vote. We can't have another nolynch day.

I'm out for the rest of the night, but my vote will stand with PM. I don't like the outburst or all the lying that happened with the secret message.

 

[DragonClyne725]

I don't think I'll be able to get back online again, so I'll place my vote.

Vote: PMysterious

I like the way you've been posting recently, but at this point we're not going to be able to turn the vote around.

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What Benzo found on SMP88 in post #1284 is interesting.

@SMP88: Since you didn't have time to respond to it before, would it be possible to hear your response next game Day? I would be very interested to hear what you have to say about it.

Until then, I think I'll keep my finger on you.

Angry Pointy Finger: SMP88

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For now, (and I'll be on before Sat night, if I need to re-vote):
UNVOTE: PMysterious

For now, I'm going to pull my vote off you, unless it comes to either you or no lynch. But, if we do lynch you, remember that, if you leave, it was your choice to leave. And, not only was it your choice to leave, but it was a ragequit, which is not exactly honorable.

Unvote: PMysterious

We only have a few hours left, let's not miss this lynch.

 

[eclipse]

Umm... wrong!?!

post 1156

post 1161

post 1165

1. Go to Post 1156.
2. Read the post right above it.

scorri has the right idea. I'm not sure if that code thing would've continued if she hadn't pointed it out (there's a 16 minute gap between post 1155 and 1156).

 

[pokemonplayer101]

I really like how you're posting right now, PM. Unfortunately, if we want a lynch today, you'll have to be the one.

I dislike SPM88's posting. As of late, he's been very confrontational, very in-your-face about everything. Let's tackle him tomorrow (Game Day), though, as there's really no way to turn the wagon.

PM, I'm sorry, but my vote shall stay. I'll let the rest of the town decide your fate.

Hopefully you'll learn from this experience, and we'll see you next game. :smile: (well, I'll see you on the game on PlayWerewolf anyway )

PP101, out.

 

[PMysterious]

I don't think I'll be able to get back online again, so I'll place my vote.

Vote: PMysterious

I like the way you've been posting recently, but at this point we're not going to be able to turn the vote around.

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What Benzo found on SMP88 in post #1284 is interesting.

@SMP88: Since you didn't have time to respond to it before, would it be possible to hear your response next game Day? I would be very interested to hear what you have to say about it.

Until then, I think I'll keep my finger on you.

Angry Pointy Finger: SMP88

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We only have a few hours left, let's not miss this lynch.

Actually, there is still a way to turn it around. All I need is like 11 other people and we can lynch someone. However, I think Benzo has the best point we can make.

Unvote: Sandslash7 I personally don't mind having Vet Reverence stay, as SS7 is somewhat right about me being a vet.

I'd probably if there is no lynch today, we should lynch SMP88 tomorrow.

 

[PikaJewel]

So you're either Dialga, Celebi or you know IS targeted you N1? Are you the one who "killed" Jellyfisher N1?

NO. If I had a killing role I'd probably misunderstand it.

Seriously, I was not kidding when I said that I was gonna quit if you lynch me and I could lynch myself right now as my vote counts as 9, but since I want to stay, I can't. Now, what are you all doing? Lynching me for nothing! Would you rather leave me alive and at least have a player around for future games that you know is trying to play the game but can't because everyone is lying themselves? Or would you rather lynch a Townie for no reason and have a player that leaves for good? Also, I just NOW found out the gun had no bullets. If all else fails, there's nothing else for me to do.

Unvote: Pikajewel

You have 2 days to lynch me, but the question is, would you rather do it and force me to leave. I will admit, I'm not the best player and in NO way, I'm the one that can save us. But, when I try to play this game, everyone wants to Policy Lynch me for reasons never presented. SS7 is lying about his words and all he's doing is to try and get me modkilled. In no way I did any of the stuff SS7 mentioned. I once knew him as an honest guy, but he has been corrupted by something which I don't know what. All of his posts turned from the truth to nothing but lies. He has no honesty in his soul anymore. When he said that we're removing Vet Reverence, that was a lie. Look at what you're doing now! You're following SS7 who is a Vet and lynching me who is nowhere near that status. Look, the only reason why I survived 4 days as Alpha Wolf in XVI was because I was just lucky that day. I let luck drive me. I can change from the worst player on the Gym to something you can rely on. Please, I just want one more chance. That's all I want, if you give me that chance, I promise I will change. Please reconsider this action and please understand what I'm saying. I no longer trust SS7 and I am stepping away from his shadow and the shadows of all the Veterans. I'm not a veteran, I'm someone that can be dangerous. As quoted from Cabd to many of the players.



I was in the shadows always getting lynched for the exact same reason every time. Vet Reverence is still in this game. Did all of you notice that in our games AFTER the discussion, a Newbie or non-vet was always the first player to be lynched? How come no one has ever noticed that except me? SS7 is nothing but lies. Vet Reverence is still in this game and even SS7 knows about it. Let's break Vet Reverence today and if you all agree with me on this, we are lynching a Vet today and not me. I promise you that Vet Reverence is gonna be history once we do the right thing. Get off me and get on any Veteran player you feel like. It doesn't matter.

SS7: You promised Vet Reverence would have been gone, but through past analysis, Vet Reverence is still out there. Why did Vet Reverence not get removed and why are you trying to keep it around by lynching me? If you lie about this answer, I will vote you.

I did it because of your actions not because of vets, I don't really know who is a vet or not anyways.


Now back to the present. PM I'm sorry but I'm going to keep my vote on you because we cannot afford another no lynch. I really wanted to give you a second chance and let you turn this around because I'm loving that you got over it. I may hate myself in the morning (game day morning) but for now I'm going to keep my vote on you....

 

[JewelQuest]

@dave68: First off, again, I am a girl. Second, what would you have done if it has seemed to you that someone was ignoring you? It wasn't an emotional outburst, it was me trying to make sure that waynegg actually saw it.

@PM: Well, then, do you have an idea of who you'd rather be lynched? I'll probably be able to get on before the end of the game day, so I wont' cast my vote yet.

NO. If I had a killing role I'd probably misunderstand it.



I did it because of your actions not because of vets, I don't really know who is a vet or not anyways.


Now back to the present. PM I'm sorry but I'm going to keep my vote on you because we cannot afford another no lynch. I really wanted to give you a second chance and let you turn this around because I'm loving that you got over it. I may hate myself in the morning (game day morning) but for now I'm going to keep my vote on you....

Um, hello? I said something in this post to you. Did you just miss it, or are you ignoring me?

 

[waynegg]

Guys, we have less than 3 hours... Are we really gonna let this day too end in a no lynch?

@ mod- Since AT is gone, is the vote to lynch lessened?

 

[thunderjolt]

I promised I'd be on, yet I still believe that PM is town.

However, I can't fall back on a promise to cast my vote, so:

VOTE: PMysterious

Also, PJ, can you explain what you meant here?

NO. If I had a killing role I'd probably misunderstand it.

Sounds kinda fishy....

 

[waynegg]

Prodding Pikamaster and/or LEX

With Jeffrey gone, that leaves 38 players in game, so 19+1 should make majority, correct?

 

[SMP88]

I don't think I'll be able to get back online again, so I'll place my vote.

Vote: PMysterious

I like the way you've been posting recently, but at this point we're not going to be able to turn the vote around.

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What Benzo found on SMP88 in post #1284 is interesting.

@SMP88: Since you didn't have time to respond to it before, would it be possible to hear your response next game Day? I would be very interested to hear what you have to say about it.

Until then, I think I'll keep my finger on you.

Angry Pointy Finger: SMP88

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We only have a few hours left, let's not miss this lynch.

I'll have a full response for when the next day begins.

PM, you still haven't shown where I was a provoker. We also can't switch the vote right now. If people start switching votes they'd be removing them from you, weakening your vote. So we'd somehow have to switch 20 votes in 3 hours.

 

[Pikamaster]

Prodding Pikamaster and/or LEX

With Jeffrey gone, that leaves 38 players in game, so 19+1 should make majority, correct?

20 votes are required for the lynch. I've had a very busy day, but can promise a vote count and near constant attention for the rest of the day in 40 minutes.

 

[waynegg]

20 votes are required for the lynch. I've had a very busy day, but can promise a vote count and near constant attention for the rest of the day in 40 minutes NOW THAT THE RAVENS ARE FINALLY THROUGH PLAYING.

Fixed that for ya buddy! Reliant Stadium will help you guys warm up (hopefully melt, haha) next weekend!

Thanks for letting us know what we need.

 

[Pikamaster]

VOTE COUNT:
38 Remaining
20 to lynch


PMysterious- 16 (Benson, Waynegg, Pokemonplayer101, xxumbreonxx, StrongRhino, Scorri, SMP88, Kirbyking, Glaceon, Sandslash7, Jpulice, Pokemonfreak5, Eclipse, DarthPika, Prohawk, Thunderjolt)

Waynegg- 1 (Human Destroyer)

G landers- 1 (Dragonclyne725)

SMP88- 1 (Benzo)



Going to check real fast that this vote count is correct, there may be changes within the next few minutes, I'll edit and say when it is confirmed to be correct.

EDIT.

This vote count is correct. Dragonclyne, you need to unvote before voting again. 93 minutes until the day ends.

 

[PikaJewel]

I promised I'd be on, yet I still believe that PM is town.

However, I can't fall back on a promise to cast my vote, so:

VOTE: PMysterious

Also, PJ, can you explain what you meant here?



Sounds kinda fishy....

No I'm just saying that I misunderstand things a lot including my family.

No I am not the last enforcer.

PEOPLE GET ON HERE AND POST!

 

[scorri]

scorri points out that PikaJewel is apparently not voting...

 

[PikaJewel]

bump requested by Scorri.

 

[scorri]

Ok, so some thoughts from scorri.

-Pikajewel and anyone else that is around that hasn't voted needs to vote asap.
-scorri is sticking with her PM vote largely because of the emotional manipulation and lying. scorri doesn't believe that there's really an excuse for the extent that it went to. scorri does think that PM has been doing better, but scorri doesn't feel that actually changes anything in the long run.
-scorri will be extremely frustrated if there is another no lynch when PM was L-4 two days ago.
-scorri has discovered that she hates talking in the third person.

That is it for now.

 

[StrongRhino]

We can't afford yet another no-lynch. Vote people!