Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

What Beats Dialga/Palkia SP?

I really think lightning types are becoming the play, but I don't think Raichu would cut it. I'd personally just go straight for it with Dialga G, shutting off Raichu's body and it can't be OHKO'd. Yeah, you have resistance against you. But even if you didn't, Dialga G could still only 2HKO Raichu at best. A single heads on Remove Lost could be devastating to a Raichu player, putting the deck a turn behind which could really spell out the game.

I'm really liking the thought of Electivire though... :/ What could go with it that is a good alternative attacker (Regular Electivire is a terribly inconsistent hitter), isn't weak to fighting (For machamp, preferrably psychic), is a stage 1 (Needs an easy way around Deafen locks without setting up), and doesn't rely on powers (At least not so heavily that Mesprit/Power spray kill it)?
 
I really think nothing beats a good Dialga G, not even fire. I play my with Galactics HQ, lock that in with Deafen. So all Stage 1s and Stage 2s pretty much have the same HP as it. But with all the support from being G, and having 3 good attacks.
 
iuf you want to beat it and nothing else, try machamp/houndoom G, 3-1-3 champ and 3 houndoom to killify it. you'll probably lose to everything else though.
 
Somehow I'm thinking that if theres a GOOD way to make GG faster (Not iPlox), it would be able to pop up at top spots even more then it already does.
*goes back to fiddling with GG*
 
Ive only played one dialga G before and I killed it fighting with a togekiss/ Dusknoir/ Giritana Deck and it was my Giritana that killed his dialga lvX so I put him in the lost zone, but after that I pretty much left his deck crippled because he was without a dialga Lv/ X G whch was the big reason i won the game.
 
A well built machamp can beat G more than 50 percent of the time but it is still not a good enough matchup to be tournament worthy. Pachi can smack palkia for a good 80 and if you play him you avoid the donk. While vire seems good in theory he doesn't have the damage output to really harm dialga. Anything with a body like mewtwo or luxray is irrelevant. Dusknoir may be the only viable tech as he lays counters, forces them to put energy where they don't want to and can bounce dialga back into their deck. Plus a well buit noir with the RIGHT pokemon in it can beat the rest of the meta. However if you want to simply beat G the answer is in G itself
 
What about Tyrannitar? I know that the body is shut off, but with 3 energy a turn from weavile, its not a big deal. Can 1HKO most stuff, and an active Sableye helps it get round the lock.

I can heal 2 Diagla G Attacks with 2 double healer drops.
 
^ Don't forget the Psychic Resistance on T-Tar!

The bad thing is that Deafen Lock shuts off your Candies, Dialga G + Crobat OHKOs Weavile (how come Metal Weakness is suddenly bad???) and ToxiTank OHKOs Sableye.

Do people still play Toxicroak, or is it still the elite thing to say it is bad?
 
Might be worth me adding another Pupitar. Candy lock is bad, especially when they can also Crobat + Honchkrow your benched Larvitar with 5 energy on ( happened at Guildford. )
 
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I learned not to even bench Larvitar unless I could Candy it.

5 Energy???? :eek:
 
Yup - I couldn't draw into anything to evolve it, and I had no idea that he could snipe it.

I scooped after, went into a third game - which I lost on time and missed out on top cut.

I wish I'd spread 3-4 energy onto 2 Larvitar now.
 
punkymon wins the thread. Hocnhkrow or Bronzong thrown into the mix could work too.

Also, did you ever notice how many cards SP decks have in their hands? And think about how many of those are trainers...
 
If they use stadiums and tools then Electivire X teched in Amphy/Manetric.

If it gets its attack of then it effectively stops everything next turn (including Skuntank's power since electivire x says all effects including damage)

Not to mention Palkia's double weakness
 
I hated the toxitank g version before states, because the near auto lost to Dialga/palkia gs. But now it seems viable because the stuff ment to counter DP G's seem too loose to toxitank g's. Decks life magleaf, would absoletely not be able to win for one reason they rely to heavily on powers for them to set up and maintain them selves late game.
 
toxitank is such a bad deck decision. dialga/palkia is bdif and trashes it.

much like plox from last year, there are decks that beat it, but none of those decks would be good choices for the rest of the metagame.

maybe there are some decks we haven't seen yet due to certain players not being able to attend states yet.... time will only tell.
 
FLCLFANMAN said:
If they use stadiums and tools then Electivire X teched in Amphy/Manetric.

If it gets its attack of then it effectively stops everything next turn (including Skuntank's power since electivire x says all effects including damage)

Not to mention Palkia's double weakness
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It's effects from attacks, not powers you can still warp point it and cyclone it too.
 
^^ I'm sure there are some beast decks that haven't been revealed, figure that the good players already started making decks when scans came out, but like everyone says "only time will tell"

DPG is sweeping worlds, sorry, but it is.
 
darkartisan said:
^^ I'm sure there are some beast decks that haven't been revealed, figure that the good players already started making decks when scans came out, but like everyone says "only time will tell"

DPG is sweeping worlds, sorry, but it is.
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Dialga and Palkia G decks are both very good and will certainly hit States and Regionals both very hard. But, by the time Worlds comes around there will be another set out to challenge Palkia and Dialga for control of the metagame. I would be very surprised if noone can find something at least as good as the Palkia and Dialga decks by then.
 
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