You miss 100% of the shots you don't take

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  1. Porii Sames

    Porii Sames Active Member

    In the title, is this mathematially/philosophically true? I'd say no, because:

    If you take no shots, then you can't miss a percent of any of them, because the number is 0, and you can't mathematically find the percent of 0.

    Discuss.
     
  2. Kayle

    Kayle Active Member

    What grade are you in, even? <_<" Did you like only recently learn/remember you can't divide by zero? There are ways to get around that, you know!

    Sure, you can say "100% is philosophically false" and I'll just say "Fine, the saying is REALLY supposed to be, 'you miss all of the shots you don't take.'" And then that's completely true. You can't quantify "all" and "no", all you can do is make the simple true-false comparison: If you take no shots, did you miss any of them? Missing a shot is defined as NOT MAKING it, so did you make any of the shots (if you took no shots)?

    No you didn't, so you missed them all.
     
  3. Porii Sames

    Porii Sames Active Member

    I'm in 9th grade, I just thought of the poster again today for the first time in a year.

    I would say that missing a shot may not be defined as not making it. If you want to ask someone out, you run the risk of them saying no, which would ruin your shot. However, if you don't ask them out, you don't miss the shot because they didn't say no and you may never know whether or not they wanted to go out with you.
     
  4. Barkjon

    Barkjon Active Member

    Of course you do, because you don't know how many shots you actually took. Assuming this is basketball, you could not shoot and assuming you did shoot you could have airballed them all.

    I'm just confusing this matter worse though.

    LOGICZ IZ HARD!
     
  5. Kayle

    Kayle Active Member

    Then you're running into the problem that any philosophical statement can take, which is that someone who feels like being a troll can simply shift their paradigm out of its way.

    If you define three different possibilities for a binary choice - YES, NO and N/A - then you're correct. But there's no point to doing that, because when someone asks you, they want the results of the situation. If you didn't take a shot, you DEFINITELY didn't make it. So by default you can't answer YES, you have to answer NO.

    If you didn't take a shot, in that sense, you missed it.
     
  6. Porii Sames

    Porii Sames Active Member

    You could not shoot in this situation and give it to someone else/not shoot altogether risking the other team getting the upper hand.

    @Kayla

    If you try to ask someone out, it could be to simply get someone to go out with you for bragging rights (not me). If that fails and said person says no, then you missed the shot. If you never took the shot in the first place, you didn't miss the shot because you didn't lose anything.

    CONFUSING.
     
  7. toxictaipan

    toxictaipan New Member

    Porii Sames, is the glass half empty, or half full?
     
  8. Kayle

    Kayle Active Member

    You never lost anything, you just didn't gain something. If you don't try, you don't gain it, ergo you miss it.
     
  9. Jaeger

    Jaeger New Member

    If your looking at it from a mathematical perspective than you've already missed the point. Kind of to bad to because this is a great saying to live by...
     
  10. Porii Sames

    Porii Sames Active Member

    I know, and it is a good thing to live by.

    It's just wrong.
     
  11. Kayle

    Kayle Active Member

    babby's first troll! get the camera
     
  12. Porii Sames

    Porii Sames Active Member

    *sigh*

    About here is where a. I get trolled b. this thread goes downhill c. both.
     
  13. toxictaipan

    toxictaipan New Member

    Porri Sames, you never answered my question.
     
  14. Regis_Neo

    Regis_Neo Moderator

    Logic is a lie. NON-BELIEVER!
     
  15. DJGigabyte

    DJGigabyte Forum Moderator

    If you look at this in a purely mathematical way:

    What you need to do is divide 0 by 0, but dividing by 0 causes problems in maths.
    So, algebra time!

    Let 0 = x

    Now we need to do x/x

    A common rule in maths is that any time there is a fraction with the same number on the top and the bottom, the answer is always 1 (or 100%)

    x/x= 1 therefore 0/0= 1 also.

    So you do miss 100% of the shots you don't take.


    And since we're ignoring the really meanings of things and looking at them in the wrong way:

    toxictaipan- The glass is completely full. Even if only 50% of the glass contains a liquid, the other half is full of air. SCIENCE!
     
  16. toxictaipan

    toxictaipan New Member

    You stole my counter-troll! :mad:
     
  17. tehmoe

    tehmoe New Member

    its doesnt matter because none of this is real, im not real and neither are you.
     
  18. Jaeger

    Jaeger New Member

    You should have taken the blue pill
     
  19. Porii Sames

    Porii Sames Active Member

    Um...

    how does 0/0...=1...?

    Isn't 0/0 irrational too?
     
  20. tehmoe

    tehmoe New Member

    i mixed it with a red pill to balance it out
     

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