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Zekrom/Pachirisu/Shaymin Deck suggestions :)

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NekoAlvien

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Hi everyone!

Just started playing a couple days ago and after finding it really fun I've decided to try and build my first ever deck! (apart from the starter plus a few boosters I've been using :p)

I got the Zekrom electric/Water starter deck and after talking with a few of the more learned Poképlayers I've met I think I will stick with him but maybe taking out the water elements for a pure Electric deck

Again, I'm very new at this but after a bit of research and talking with the people I play with I've come up with a a few ideas for it that I would love to get some feedback and some opinions on how I could betterit :)

Here is what I have so far!


Pokemon

4 Zekrom

3 Pachirisu
2 Shaymin
2 Magby
2 Joltik
2 Galvantula
1 Blitzle
1 Zebstrika

Trainers

4 Professor Oak's New Theory
3 Super Scoop Up

2 Pokemon Collector

2 Pokémon Reversal
3 PlusPower

3 Junk Arm

2 Pokemon Communication

4 Dual Ball
2 Judge
3 Copycat

Energy – 15 x Electric

Strategy: As this is a brand new deck I've only talked about with the people i play pokemon with and a couple hours online researching i havnt played it before BUT if i had to think about it i would say that the strategy would be to have Pachirisu, zekrom and Shaymin down asap and get 2 energy on Pachirisu, then placing one on Zekrom and using Shaymin to transfer the energy from Pachirisu to Zekrom for a quick Bolt Strike, Magby is really there for what I like to call "lets take a rest" :p The other electric pokemon are there really just incase and I already have them in my starter deck/boosters.

If anyone would like to give me some advice for substitutions for pokemon and the trainer cards I would be very appreciative :)

Thanks in advance!

Neko
 
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if you plan on using Zebstrika your gonna need at least 1 more Blitzle and 1 more Zebstrika otherwise you'll almost never get those cards when playing the game also It would be easier if you put the kind of expansion of each pokemon card you were using so it's easier of the people who are rating the deck to rate it.

I hope I helped (I'm kinda new to this myself so I don't think my advice is right on the money as it were)
 
Thanks for the advice! :) To be honest ive only included the last 5 pokemon (Magby, Joltik, Gavantuala, Blitzle and zebstrika) because i really dont know what kind of pokemon would compliment Zekrom, Pachirisu and Shaymin so i put the 5 ones that use electric....id really like some sudgestions on what i could replace them with :)
 
actually I might be worth while to put grass types in there bec shaymin can't attack without energy and it's attack is awesome too... I'd do this:

4 Zekrom

2 Pachirisu
2 Shaymin
2 Magby
3-2-2 serperior (one from Beginning Set and one from White Collection)


and put the energies like this:

9 electric
6 grass
 
the entire purpose of ZPS is to be really fast and consistent
but with the added cards
2 Joltik
2 Galvantula
1 Blitzle
1 Zebstrika
it kind of kills the entire flow of the deck.
i would recommend losing all 6 of those cards, add 1 or 2 more magby (for good starts, when you CANT get zekrom right away)
it will increase your consistency a lot...
also, i would recommend only using 2 shaymin, and running 3 or 4 seeker. seeker is a MUST in this deck (you need it to re-play shaymins/ pachis and to heal your zekroms.

actually my ZPS deck right now is running
4 zekrom
2 pachi
2 shaymin
3 magby
and its the best build ive come up with as of lately...

so maybe do something like this:

-2 Joltik
-2 Galvantula
-1 Blitzle
-1 Zebstrika
-1 shaymin

+1 magby
+3 seeker
+2 sages training (or some other "speed card")
+1 pokemon collector <-- you must be running at least 3 of these in order to get turn 1 zekrom with 3 energy

hope this helps
good luck friend

PS. please do NOT play grass energy. you will never, EVER attack with shaymin. if a zekrom dies and you cant recover instantly with another, you send out magby
 
Thanks so much!

Actually I did only write 2 shaymin, did you mean pachi? :) Can you link me to the seeker card so i can take a look at it? :)

Im thinking about replacing magby with cleffa for the same no damage ability but the replacing cards thing instead of burn damage. what do you think?
 
oh woops-- yes i mean to say pachi! 2 pachi, 2 shaymin

here is the link to seeker http://pokegym.net/forums/view.php?pg=towercard&imageid=51037
(if you go to the top of the pokegym's page and click on "research tower" you can see every card thats legal at the moment :)

the deck must run seeker for 3 reasons
1. the "cheap win": if your opponent only has 1 pokemon on their bench (which is probably their "big attacker"), you seeker to force it back to their hand, and KO their active... automatic win lol
2. healing damaged zekroms (obviously because he takes a lot of damage)
3. re-using pachis and shaymins

replacing magby with cleffa is definitely a solid idea! ACTUALLY, if you talk to most experienced players, they will probably tell you to definitely do it. however.... (and this is just MY preference/ opinion) ive been testing this deck so much lately... and honestly the damage output from magby seems to be so much more important (the whole purpose of this deck to speed KO). not to mention that most ZPS decks run a ton of juniper/ oaks new theory/ copycat. so i generally find that using cleffa seems to be a waist of a turn. (magby basically does 40 damage for 0 energy... its nuts)

but if youre finding that you get a lot of "dead draw" or "dead hands" then definitely use cleffa! hes a great option
 
I see why you don't want any grass energy but the problem is what happens if you lose your Zekrom? I'd build a back up in case Zekrom dies.....
 
If i lose my zekrom hopefully i have 3 others to take his place :D

Thanks for the tips mewbreon! really appreciate it :) Ill get to looking for these shiney new cards at my next pokemon meet -^^-
 
when I said zekrom I was talking about the plural form for zekrom :p

for instance a good deck like dialgachomp doesn't rely on just dialga to pull it though it has back ups like lucario GL and garchomp C your deck relies only on zekrom if they all die somehow (and it will happen) what will you do? magby can't hold back the storm and shaymin can't attck either pachi will lose power every time it attacks so I will be out almost at the first turn it goes in.....

if you still only want to use zekrom I'd do this: Edit your trainers so you have a few flower shop ladies they ca throw zekrom and a few energies into your deck then get a few pokemon collectors so you get zekrom into your hand that should help a bit....

and be very careful for full time electric counters like Machamp you might wanna think about a fighting type counter......(that last part is more or less from my video game side)
 
the format now is COMPLETELY different with the rotation.
comparing this deck to dialga is ridiculous.
and when using a phrase like "a good deck will blablabla" you make it seem like zps isnt...
zps IS a good deck... its TIER 1 of the new format....

the purpose of this deck is to either take 6 prizes, or KO all of your OPs pokemon before they get the chance to take you out. zekrom is a kamikaze card (although perhaps kamikaze is too negative... i mean it in a good way lol) he will always take at LEAST 2 prizes before he dies. (obviously putting you ahead in prizes of your OP.. 2:1)
in almost every game ive ever tested, if you get T1 or T2 zekrom with 3 energy (T1 zekrom i get 5/10 games, and T2 zekrom i can get 8/10 games... those are AMAZING odds for a deck in this new, slow format). you take 3 prizes before they charge up a big hitter..
in 3 turns you have another zekrom ready. always

running techs against fighting decks (like the ever-popular yanmega prime) SEEMS like a good idea in theorymon, but its not. it kills the consistancy of the deck and the fact of the matter is that yanmega is only going to KO ONE machamp, or ONE donphan before it dies...... not to mention that the waisted turns you spend KOing it are turns your opponent can recover (the exact opposite of what ZPS is SUPPOSED to do.)
for the fighting-type matchup, your only option is to out-speed it. if you cant, then youll probably lose. but hey, EVERY deck has its counter.

im sorry im being argumentitive, but i really want a new player to get advice which will advance him in the game.
 
I'm just saying it's risky to rely on only Zekrom if you don't want me to compare it with dialgachomp (which was only an example) I can compare it with other decks to like mewperior or lostgar I know the format has changed a lot but you shouldn't ever rely on only one pokemon to bring you through especially in a big tournament at the final game........

I'm sorry if I sound like a pain but I really don't think 4 attackers is enough it's not fun to lose the last two prize cards before you can say Christmas Cookies......
 
@ PsychicPokemon - Lets look at some past and present decks that focus solely on 1 pokemon being the main attacker: Gyarados, Jumpluff (back in the DP-On format), Gengar SF (in VileGar, Gengar is the only pokemon attacking) Regigigas, Speedra. There are quite a few more but you should understand where i'm going with this. Zekrom doesn't really need a back up attackers as all the resources you spend getting out that secondary attacker could have been used to build another Zekrom. The only reason you should adding an additional pokemon line should be to counter a specific deck/pokemon which poses as a problem against Zekrom.

Back on topic. Running a starter like Cleffa (or something with free retreat) i've found to be very helpful. From what i've tested you have 3 viable options:

Igglybuff HGSS - This can really slow down your opponent early game but making their starter pay 1 :colorless: more to use any attack, which also helps against mirror matches.

Elekid TM / Tyrogue HGSS - A slight bit better than Magby as it can deal actual damage for no energy (Tyrogue deals 10 damage more than Elekid)

Cleffa HGSS - If you have a bad hand, use "eeeeek".

I can't tell you which one to use as they all have their pros & cons, so the choice is up to you.
 
psychicpokemon said:
ok do what you want but I just don't feel that comfortable only having one attacker..... :/
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oh you mean like gyarados?

ya that deck never did well...

@original poster:
if you make changes to your deck, you can always put updated lists on the thread for more suggestions, etc. etc. if you want(thats what most people do)
 
Pokemon: 11
3 igglybuff / magby / cleffa
4 zekrom
2 pachi
2 shaymin

TSS 35
3 Pokegear 3.0
3 engineers adjustments
4 Pokemon Collector
4 Seeker
1 Fisherman
2 Flower Shop Lady
1 Professor Juniper

3 Dual Ball
3 Plus Power
2 switch
3 Super Scoop Up
2 Pokemon Reversal
4 Junk Arm

Energy 14:
12 Lightning
2 Rescue
 
Organic said:
Pokemon: 11
3 igglybuff / magby / cleffa
4 zekrom
2 pachi
2 shaymin

TSS 35
3 Pokegear 3.0
3 engineers adjustments
4 Pokemon Collector
4 Seeker
1 Fisherman
2 Flower Shop Lady
1 Professor Juniper

3 Dual Ball
3 Plus Power
2 switch
3 Super Scoop Up
2 Pokemon Reversal
4 Junk Arm

Energy 14:
12 Lightning
2 Rescue
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nonono
way too inconsistent
1 juniper? no. 3 or 4 AND 2 or 3 oaks new theory
 
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