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professorbix
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posted March 15, 2003 05:43 PM
count me in if you need help. my league in pennsylvania has seen attendance jumping up on a weekly basis. i didn't work hard to get theses results to lose them to lack of op. i will do what i can to helpl keep pokemon op going for years, yes years to come.
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posted March 15, 2003 06:12 PM
I'm in too. any way I can help, I'll do.
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posted March 15, 2003 07:39 PM
I like posting like chickens.... ![[Turkey]](../tcg/graemlins/turkey.gif) especially since the :pumkin: one isn't available anymore.... Southern New England reporting in.
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posted March 15, 2003 08:10 PM
That's a chicken? I say it's a Shining Natu.
As far as leadership goes... I honestly don't know if I have sufficient leadership skills. But if I'm needed, I'll see what I can do.
Heh... It feels like I'm signing on to be one of the minute men from the Revolutionary War.
EDIT: Skywolf: I couldn't help but notice many parallels between your post proclaiming your retirement from the game and Pryce at the beginning of "Cold as Pryce". It's good to see you've found your Piloswine. ![[Big Grin]](../tcg/biggrin.gif)
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pokedok
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posted March 15, 2003 08:50 PM
Marsh You can count me in to help start the Organization. I probably speak in behalf of the Pokemon Professor's here in the State of Illinois to keep the game alive. ![[Smile]](../tcg/smile.gif)
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bulbasnore
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posted March 15, 2003 09:45 PM
Hmm...so MANY thinking along the same lines that's good. A couple shouts, then a recommendation or two.
DMTM: I appreciate the level at which you and the other MTs are executing the transition plan (such as it is). As with so much over the last couple years, it is above and beyond just doing the job, but from the heart. I know there are business reasons for not dropping us like a hot rock, but I see more here than just that. Thanks.
MODS: I wouldn't want your positions for the world. I've seen so much unkindness and idiocy in the online world since I started using USENET in 1985 I just couldn't hack it. You folks are doing a great service to the community.
OK, 'nuf on the shouts.
Hey folks, my advice, worth what you paid for it perhaps:
Re-use existing resources. You've got a huge job. Involve existing leaders. Creating sites & organizations from scratch is doomed to failure.
Take your time. Don't just propose, 'OK, this is what we're going to do...' More discussion & planning before action. Get consensus from those who have been the leaders. At that point you'd be ready to take a proposal to the whole community to be shaped into action.
Start with a narrow focus. Perhaps just an organization to represent the players perspective. OP, Sanctioning and Rules are a big big job. Be ready to tackle it, but don't start there. There is lots of talking to do with TPC before that.
An international organization is certainly needed. From both the perspective of representing the whole community present on this board (which it may suprise some is not the entire OP community in PKMN) but also an International is a more powerful voice.
Be prepared to raise some money and do some work away from these boards. You're best served by having an organization that is registered in some way, not just a website. This costs. It also means bylaws. This can't be put together just by dropping in on a thread.
The PokeGym Mods, Team Compendium, Skywolf (amazing ambassador & opener of corporate ears), TE & all, the famous fan artists with their webs, webmasters of other successful fan run sites, local organizers & Professors -- you are resources & vital leaders by virtue of your contributions. YOU will see the need, forge a consensus, do the work and pull this together, or it won't happen.
I DO think we could benefit from a players association -- while talking to Nintendo/TPC -- in order to secure the best possible environment for the game. I've felt a handful of things in WoTC decsions & approach to the game has been harmful; most of the things that have troubled me have been attributed by WoTC representatives to influences from the franchise owner (Nintendo/TPC).
'snore
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posted March 16, 2003 02:48 AM
If you need me, I'm ready, able & willing.
I could represent the Oklahoma contingent if needed.
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ukpokemonpro
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posted March 16, 2003 03:58 AM
How to keep the game going ..
44 players
no WotC involvement
7 rounds of swiss
me playing for once
incredibly me placing 2nd with CrocGanium (damn that Freddy and sukky scizor ![[Mad]](../tcg/mad.gif) )
I feel recharged and ready for action.. want to know why we are doing this stop TOing for a moment and play a few games, smile and let Pokemon back in ![[Love]](../tcg/graemlins/love.gif) .. there that's better.
We had a great turnout for the 2nd SE Challenge and as we keep saying you don't need WotC for a great time .. you just need people willing to put themselves out for the game.
Ian, Martin, Nigel and all; especially Ian's wife Jane who slipped me Mugs of Tea whilst the rest got cups ![[Wink]](../tcg/wink.gif) .. Well done .. Next stop GenCon Europe.
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posted March 16, 2003 04:08 AM
Count me in! Anything I can do to help just let me know. I also have a dedicated group of professors that are lined up to do what we need to do to keep the game play going.
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posted March 16, 2003 07:45 AM
Already in!
I echo Dumbledore's post... we have to keep this simple.
Wotc have provided a free-ride for organised play in the past. Now its our turn to put up or shut up.
Store based op may be free, but club based op is not.
Competative events should be self funding.. start stocking up on those poke-bargains whenever you see them!
Bulletin boards, like the gym, cost money but more significantly time. The same can be said for websites if they are to remain current.
We need to ensure that TeamCompendium continues after August.
Reporter- the software now declares itself as copywrite wotc. We will need something to keep tournament operation smooth after August.
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posted March 16, 2003 07:54 AM
You know I'm there, Marsh...
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posted March 16, 2003 08:53 AM
Decay reporting for battle sir!
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ScythKing
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posted March 16, 2003 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by bulbasnore:
Hmm...so MANY thinking along the same lines that's good. A couple shouts, then a recommendation or two.
Re-use existing resources. You've got a huge job. Involve existing leaders. Creating sites & organizations from scratch is doomed to failure.
Folks, please pay attention to bulbasnore's post. It is why I proposed Team Compendium. Right now everyone is shouting rah rah - raise the flag - storm the Evil Empires' Corporate Headquarters - we'll make 'em listen, etc etc etc I vote such and such to be the leader.
WHOA! NELLIE!
I think the idea of a players organization is great. Show solidarity and purpose. But you folks don't have to act like it has to be done tomorrow. Let's put some thought into it - then there will be a much better chance that it will be done right. Have any of you noticed that the MT's, the Mods, and the Team Compendium folks have said very little if anything yet? It's because they are waiting for the predictable hullabaloo to settle down. Now I hope that I don't step on any toes here but I would respectfully submit that these "old men" represent a lot of insight and leadership that should be consulted - after we have given things a bit more time. If nothing else to let it sink in for a bit - I know I was shocked and my nerves were frazzled.
So let's toss around a few ideas, kick a few rumors, stay away from conspiracy theories, ignore the old prophets - we need no naysaying soothsayers. In general run the normal cycle for major upheavals by letting things settle down. Then we can start making plans if it seems necessary.
Now I'd like to remind everyone just one more time; it has been said by WotC time and time again - OP and the players are a drop in the bucket for the total sales of Pokemon. If OP is to survive it is because the Powers that Be will suffer it to live because they perceive it to be a good thing. One additional thing directed to my fellow American trainers - we are perceived by most of the world as having an arrogant, brash and selfish culture that hopefully will not find it's way into their culture. The Japanese have made it known that they think we are too aggressive with the game. Not that this may be right or wrong - it's just their perception. So let's PUH-LEAZE avoid anything that looks like a shouting demanding mob - they will hate it and anything associated with it. We have no rights whatsoever as far as anything to do with the game - it comes with no warranties or promises. So be Nice. Be Polite. Be Informative. Be Helpful. Be Supportive. And maybe, just maybe Ninetendo will look down on OP and decide that OP is a Good Thing. Scream, rant, rave, demand, accuse, or threaten and I'll guarantee they won't.
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Crobat1
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posted March 16, 2003 11:18 AM
Please add our names to the list of folk who support the idea of doing everything we can to promote and maintain this game that we love.
Our two cents:
Our first priority has got to be the creation of an organization that can negotiate on our behalf with Nintendo/TPC or whoever else is going to be making decision about the future of Pokemon.
Lots of letters from different folk is good--but ultimately, we will be more powerful if we can choose representatives who can speak for us with a single voice.
I expect that we will probably go in many directions on this message board. Such is the fate of message boards.
I suspect that we will be better able to gain a focus if we hold a real meeting (at GenCon) or find a way to choose representatives on-line.
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posted March 16, 2003 11:27 AM
I understand and agree with all positions here, organization does not happen over night. We have many of the tools already in place. It is just focusing them as a single entity. Which will take time.
Take Care,
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I am trying my best here folks, but I need YOUR help to do it. I want this game to survive as much as anyone else does. So, I need to hear from all of you as to what the logical first step should be. Bulbasnore has some very good points.
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posted March 16, 2003 11:40 AM
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Originally posted by Skywolf1:
I am trying my best here folks, but I need YOUR help to do it. I want this game to survive as much as anyone else does. So, I need to hear from all of you as to what the logical first step should be.
Well, I figure right now we're pretty much doing what we should be doing right now: brainstorming. Ideas are great. The more, the better. We need people to throw ideas into the pot, so that we can look at all the ideas and decide as a group what's best.
So I'll throw this into the pot: If we want to start our own site, I think we start relatively small, and then work our way up. We could choose a server with a free hosting plan, then, as we are able, upgrade to the better features when needed. And for a message board, we could probably use an EZboard. It'd be pop-up hell in the beginning, but it'd be free, and again, we can upgrade when necessary.
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posted March 16, 2003 11:53 AM
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Now I'd like to remind everyone just one more time; it has been said by WotC time and time again - OP and the players are a drop in the bucket for the total sales of Pokemon. If OP is to survive it is because the Powers that Be will suffer it to live because they perceive it to be a good thing.
I am fed up to my back teeth with people saying it is a corporate decision if we get OP or not.
Let me tell you this and please listen .. In the UK for 4 years we have fought outright corporate hostility to OP and the brand, ignorance, poor and slopy administration of league kits.. And yet we have the strongest OP we have ever seen.
It may not be huge, it may not be sponsored but it shows a group of loyal, dedicated, players and friends can run OP despite company prejudice.
You do not need anyones permission to organise, we do not need anyones permission to play the game however we may wish to.
We do need to show however that we can work it and we do need to try and get Nintendo buy in
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One additional thing directed to my fellow American trainers - we are perceived by most of the world as having an arrogant, brash and selfish culture that hopefully will not find it's way into their culture.
Agreed
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The Japanese have made it known that they think we are too aggressive with the game. Not that this may be right or wrong - it's just their perception.
Mmmm and we base that on what? WotC word that this is so? Given that Nintendo and TPC aparently have never had a problem with 15+ yet were painted as the bad guys?
Now is definitely not the time to stereotype anyone.. not even you brash Americans
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So let's PUH-LEAZE avoid anything that looks like a shouting demanding mob - they will hate it and anything associated with it. We have no rights whatsoever as far as anything to do with the game - it comes with no warranties or promises. So be Nice. Be Polite. Be Informative. Be Helpful. Be Supportive. And maybe, just maybe Ninetendo will look down on OP and decide that OP is a Good Thing. Scream, rant, rave, demand, accuse, or threaten and I'll guarantee they won't.
Double Agreed.. please lets post our opinions, listen and let Marsh and any committee do it's job of collating our thoughts presenting them to the community and then passing on those thoughts to Nintendo.
In the meantime play some, TO some, promote the game and enjoy it.
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posted March 16, 2003 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by ukpokemonpro:
Given that Nintendo and TPC aparently have never had a problem with 15+ yet were painted as the bad guys?
On the one hand, looking back, I want to say, "Please don't say that this is true." On the other hand, looking forward, I want to say, "Please show me where it says this is true." That could make things a lot easier going forward. Either way we need to form up & get communication going.
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Originally posted by ukpokemonpro:
In the meantime play some, TO some, promote the game and enjoy it.
Glad you got to play recently. Would that it were possible for me to be therre to asssist Travel expenses being what they are, I have to say I had a great time yesterday just travelling to a very compact card shop in the middle of the city -- we played shoulder to shoulder at the lone table and stood to play at the display counters because the normal outdoor venue was closed due to weather. Great players, good times.
Anyway, everyone should relax, but not go to sleep. As 'pro says, remember to enjoy the game. Don't let passion for it start a conflagration or burn you out.
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posted March 16, 2003 02:34 PM
15+ and TPC ? A 15+ tournament has been run by TPC at the TMB in Hawaii 2002. I've talked there with one of the TPC representatives and he was surprised that 15+ were not playing in big events in USA/Europe.
And one last thing about that ... Mister Ishihara, president of Creatures Inc, the man who created Pokemon, played with us the 15+ tournament.
Just indications
Firts thing to do ? I see three :
- be organized and have channels of communication
- centralize all the ideas and suggestions about what we want, and what we propose to do in the future with TPC/Nintendo
- find 'who is who and who's going to do what' between TPC and Nintendo. I think it's important to 'knock on the right door'.
Just a word about rulings. We have ours, Japanese have theirs. I'd find logical that TPC take the Japanese rules as 'World rules'. The advantage of that is that the same game would be played with the same rules everywhere. (no, I didn't talk about a World Championship !!! ![[Razz]](../tcg/tongue.gif) )
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posted March 16, 2003 02:43 PM
Well,over the pond,here in the U.K. we are definitely keeping the game alive.Yesterday(Saturday) we had our own SBZ held in Crawley,England attended by 44 players and their respective parents/guardians etc.In April we've got Euro Gencon with various Poke tourney's and hopefully in June a big challenge tourney in good old London Town, not to mention regular tourney's in Rainham,Kent/Norwich,Norfolk etc.In the U.K. we definitely are going to continue playing/trading/discussing the game we have all come to love.We will continue to nurture our much loved game without the support of WOTC(although here in the U.K. we never have had much support anyway!)and we look forward to Nintendo's involvement(or whoever)taking us forward into the next five years! Onwards and upwards! ![[Crowd]](../tcg/graemlins/invasion.gif)
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posted March 16, 2003 08:32 PM
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I am fed up to my back teeth with people saying it is a corporate decision if we get OP or not.
What we have here is a semantical difference. My fault. I am referring to corporate sanctioned and paid for events such as battlezone, super battlezone, challenge series, worlds. You know - the stuff everyone - especially 15+ - has been complaining about for quite some time that they're not getting enough of. Including *you* guys - remember why Skywolf got involved with your cause to begin with? Because you complained you weren't being supported in the form of supplies such as promos, BZ supplies, etc.
I can hold tournaments at my location all the time - and I do. I can make them known and ask folks to come - will they? Not without incentive. So yeah, I can hold tournaments that have cash prizes and attract more than just a few players. But what most people associate with OP is the big bashes like the challenge series and a chance to win a trip to something even bigger. This can't be denied. Look what fueled the original rumors of the licensing issue - lack of news on the Pokemon Challenge Series schedule. Every single chat that was the question being asked. Now maybe I'm thinking small but I just don't see a grass roots effort producing anything like the DCI and a Challenge series. Now I've made quite a few friends on the continent - I *like* seeing Michel and his lovely family at the events we go to. I'd like to see them again in the future. Is Michel going to budget for my SouthEastern Regional Tournament? I'd be seriously surprised. So while I applaud the spirit and determination of everyone here - I still think that Nintendo/TPC picking up the ball is our best bet for continued events of the type that we've grown to love and - dare I say it - expect. So my message is - let's cultivate the new regime, show them an organized front, and hope that they feel the current players and loyal customers would be best served by continued corporate sponsorship and support for OP.
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posted March 16, 2003 08:42 PM
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Originally posted by ukpokemonpro:
Mmmm and we base that on what? WotC word that this is so? Given that Nintendo and TPC aparently have never had a problem with 15+ yet were painted as the bad guys?
Ahh you're putting words in my mouth - drop the 15+ issues already - they are piddly compared to what we face at present. I'm referring to our style of play. Small example, all the folks that went to Mega Tropical reported that the Japanese were a bit put out by our methods of play and our rules - but they were good sports about it - until they got back. Next thing you know SlowKing is banned and the MT's specifically said it was at the request of TPC. And there have been other rule changes in Japan which are expected to find their way here.
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posted March 16, 2003 10:58 PM
ScythKing,
I am only using the 15+ issue as an indication that we should not trust everything we hear from WotC and other corporates.
Semantics aside the truth remains that we do not need corporate permission to run OP.
Access to Promo's is however another issue and that was our main gripe.. we were not asking for SBZ's etc .. although they would be nice ... we can and do organise our own tourneys on that scale but without some hook .. the promo's/prize support etc it is hard to run.
Now we have built up a body of our own prizes and the tourneys are becoming self sustaining as NoPoke has said they need to be.
I am sure that with regard to promo support Nintendo or whoever will still produce and distribute promotional cards and all we need to do is ensure we have some way of accessing them ..
Hence my statement about working with Nintendo.. what we do need is for people to stop thinking the sky is falling and just reflect.
The game is not dead, OP is not dead, nothing really changes till August.. all we are doing now is getting over the shock and trying to prepare for the transition as Marsh has said.
What we don't need is a no OP oh my god it's all over attitude because it so clearly is not.
It's great that you are organising your own tourneys, please everyone continue to do that, if big events float your boat then organise that with several other TO's getting together, we can have regionals, nationals and worlds.
With the right organisation and with or without Corporate involvement OP can and will survive.
But lets not run before we know we have to.. all we need to be at the moment is prepared, see what Nintendo offer as an alternative and rest assured we're working on it.
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posted March 16, 2003 11:21 PM
ScythKing, you're right.
There is a big difference between what we'd like to do and the budget we have.
Of course we'd love to go to the SE Challenge, to Eskil's tournament in Norway, to Origins, to Indianapolis, to the GenCon Europe, to tournaments run in Holland by some friends, ...
Unfortunately we have to make choices.
Ask my daughter if she prefers to go to the SE Challenge instead of to a tournament I run in Brussels. The answer would be very clear ... let's go to England and run your tournament one week later
Without Wizards support, we wouldn't have been to STS New York, STS San Diego, Worlds in Seattle, TMB in Hawaii, ...
I must admit that we've choosen qualifiers in the past, because we had an opportunity to go to the STS/Worlds.
We'll be at GenCon Europe (thanks Freddy ) because we want to meet our UK friends.
We'd love to go to Indianapolis too - if there is a tournament I don't want to miss it's Indianapolis - but we'll have to find the budget.
Three plane tickets Brussels-Indianapolis ? 3200 USD ! Without eating, lodging, ...
I think we're not alone in that case. We don't see many people going abraod for other tournaments than qualifiers.
Playing locally can be done without a corporate support. But main events organized abroad, and sometimes very far from our home, have to be sponsored if we want to see people from around the World.
Let's change the situation for one second ... how many US players could afford to come to Europe if Worlds (or the GenCon) was run in France, UK or Belgium ? We'd be there for sure, but them ? ![[Confused]](../tcg/confused.gif)
Rules ? Well we'll maybe play with Japanese rules in the future. Is that a bad thing ? No answer now, we'll have to see.
USA/Europe have their own rules and are happy with that, Japan have their own rules and players there are happy too.
The base of the game will remain the same anyway.
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posted March 17, 2003 12:57 AM
Let me throw my 3 cents in (darned inflation)
Pokémon has been my first TCG, and it has been my main one since I started, just a little after it came out. I don't plan on leaving it for a while, and hope OP lasts, even after Pokémon and WotC part. I will do what I can from here in Hawaii even though there isn't much I could do, but one can try his best.
I am still hoping that by some miracle Pokemon and WotC stay together, but I know the odds of that happening are the same as Swift missing in the Gameboy (.4%).
I will do what I can, and you have my full support! Onix95 signing out. *hopes he didn't make a complete fool of himself*
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