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Topic: Real problems in the UK - help us!
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SauroN
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posted October 29, 2002 06:04 AM
uhhh...i have no clue what you're talkin about...
you have problems...we know that...
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PokePop
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posted October 29, 2002 07:48 AM
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Originally posted by Super Amphy:
The section of this company for which he works is based on a particular game and if this continues then this particular game will have much lower sales and eventually this section of the company selling this particular product will begin to run out of money. Thus it may be shut down totally. Then this particular individual in this particular country can switch jobs to another company in this particular country and continue to earn money.
I didn't see your original post, so I have no idea who you are referring to or what exactly you are trying to say about them.
The part that I have quoted above, however, is complete gibberish, no matter who it is about. Unless we are talking about Communist China, any body can move on to a new job at a new company without having to destroy their current job. In fact, it is harder to move on to a new company if you are coming off of a failure. The best way to get a new job is to succeed at the job you are leaving.
Is this more of the "Consprechy" theory?
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ukpokemonpro
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posted October 29, 2002 10:17 AM
PokePop,
I think the what was meant was that if WotC UK ignore pokemon then they will lose their jobs when it fails??
This is probably not true as MtG would more than justify keeping them. Indeed it is the UKs strong affinity to Magic that is one of the problems.. even in the FAD days no effort was made to support pokemon especially when compared to magic...
Still I learnt today that WotC UK will be dispatching the following badges and promo's to leagues to help us catch up with the US.
Zephyr Badges
Storm Badges
Glacial Badges
Mineral Badges
Plain Badges
Fog Badges
Dark Persian Promo's
Flying Pikachu Promo's
Pre-release Gyrados
Cleffa Promo's
Cool Porygon Promo's
Smeargle Promo's
Scyther Promo's
Mew Promo's
Togepi Promo's
Good to know we will be at the cutting edge of promo technology ![[Wink]](../tcg/wink.gif) .. Shame half of them have just been banned ![[ROFL]](../tcg/graemlins/roflmao.gif)
Really good news is that we will be giving away a Trainer A and B deck to the Top Placed Player in the 15+ age group of the South East Challenge on the 15th December 2002... along with booster boxes and other goodies.
Oh and as of today.. EXPEDITION HAS LANDED IN THE UK ![[Bounce]](../tcg/graemlins/jump.gif)
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"a meaningless title is just that ... meaningless"
"London Super Battlezone 2003"
quote the judge...
'only joking' on misreported match results: DQ Yep its that serious!
14,000 deck boxes yeah we'll take all of them .... what have I done!
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sentimental_blastoise
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posted October 29, 2002 10:31 AM
Trainer Decks...Non Holo Blastoise...*want* ![[Smile]](../tcg/smile.gif)
If Expedition has finally landed, where is it hiding?? I may have to buy some just for the supporters...
Scyther Promos..hey, I can use those in my Crobat deck against those Feraligatrs... oh wait, maybe I'm a bit behind
still, new badges and some promos is good news
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Hairy Clefairy
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posted October 29, 2002 11:50 AM
Just logged on, and have missed most of the fuss.
Michel and 'pro - great posts *applause*
'pro - sorry, you rang me while I was teaching a class! ![[Razz]](../tcg/tongue.gif) I had to hang up, I cannot ban mobiles in my class and answer them myself ![[Big Grin]](../tcg/biggrin.gif) when did you get all this news then? Have you spoken to WotC-UK? What's happened?
I'll wait 'pro for a while with the boxes, Cleffa's being a bit demanding on the finances at the moment
Everyone in the UK - go get the new edition of Pokémon World magazine (November edn?) and see me in there as a regular feature writer! ![[Love]](../tcg/graemlins/love.gif)
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[ October 29, 2002, 11:57 AM: Message edited by: Hairy Clefairy ]
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Michel
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posted October 29, 2002 12:41 PM
Freddy is a star now
Could you send me a copy of that mag ? Like the Nintendo power mag with the new promos, I'm afraid we'll never find it here.
I'm happy that things seem to be on the right way in the UK, even if you still drive on the other side of the road
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Hairy Clefairy
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posted October 29, 2002 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by Michel:
Freddy is a star now
Could you send me a copy of that mag ? Like the Nintendo power mag with the new promos, I'm afraid we'll never find it here.
No problem, will be sent a few copies by the editor very soon.
Boy I'd love to do a piece on WotC-UK ![[Evil Smirk]](../tcg/graemlins/Up_to.gif) Be very nice to us, Lee.. on a serious note it would be nice to do some POSITIVE articles if we had a chance e.g. a visit to WotC-UK offices, warehouses... etc
-fK
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ukpokemonpro
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posted October 29, 2002 07:22 PM
Freddy,
I was lucky to catch Lee in yesterday he gave us the news on the promo's so all he has to do now is deliver!
S_B
With Tower Gatr' seems almost playable again untill you see Meganium rip water decks apart
Bring it on Nitish
Oh and Expedition will be onsale in full sight at the Gamers Guild tonight .. We never hide a good thing at the guild..
Lee also mentioned that promo's like Tower and Lilly Pad Mew will be coming to winners of Tourneys.. so my advice is run some tourneys guys and gals .. you may have noticed that we at the Guild have run a few recently
It is good news and with battlezone coming and Expedition finally here maybe we have turned a corner.. MAYBE?
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"a meaningless title is just that ... meaningless"
"London Super Battlezone 2003"
quote the judge...
'only joking' on misreported match results: DQ Yep its that serious!
14,000 deck boxes yeah we'll take all of them .... what have I done!
Find the Pokemon League and Tournaments in Kent at:The Gamers Guild
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Hairy Clefairy
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posted October 30, 2002 07:24 PM
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Originally posted by ukpokemonpro:
Freddy,
I was lucky to catch Lee in yesterday he gave us the news on the promo's so all he has to do now is deliver!
Lee also mentioned that promo's like Tower and Lily Pad Mew will be coming to winners of Tourneys.. so my advice is run some tourneys guys and gals .. you may have noticed that we at the Guild have run a few recently
It is good news and with battlezone coming and Expedition finally here maybe we have turned a corner.. MAYBE?
This is just stupid. The whole point of cutting some of the old seasons was so that we could catch up with the US and start Year 3, last September.
Now, we're told we'll be sent some of the OLD promos. This is REALLY sick. Now, we'll be sent the old promos like:
Persian Promo's
Flying Pikachu Promo's
Pre-release Gyrados
Cleffa Promo's
Cool Porygon Promo's
Smeargle Promo's
Scyther Promo's
Mew Promo's
Togepi Promo's
Well for a start Cleffa promos, Flying Pikachu promos, Smeargle, Mew #8/#9 & Togepi promos have already been sent out in Year 2. Pre-Release Gyaradoses are you joking? They've been rotated OUT of Modfied, no-one wants them at all! Cool Porygons, Scythers and the Persian Promos will be the only ones that would be worth gaining but Cool Porygon has now been rotated out of Modified, and Dark Persian? Well, you don't have to be a Rattata fan to dislike that card...
For those who don't know, Lee at WotC-UK HAS all of the Year 3 stuff and he SHOULD have sent it out in SEPTEMBER 2002. All the Magmars, the Machamps, the Scythers now, and apparently the Lily Pad Mews.
Why oh why would we want to COMPETE for the promo Mews when the leagues should be getting them? It's a completely daft idea. Let the Gym Leaders decide who should get them and who shouldn't!
It's stupid. League numbers decline with no support and promotions. Then months later WotC-UK decide to support those with the most tournaments after quite a few of the leagues have died off. It stinks if you ask me.
I really am cheesed off about this. For goodness sake can we just have the Year 3 goodies out now without any more stupid ideas from WotC-UK?
![[Mad]](../tcg/mad.gif) ![[Roll Eyes]](../tcg/rolleyes.gif)
-fK
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ukpokemonpro
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posted October 30, 2002 08:43 PM
AH the real problem may not be at WotC UK? Did I really just say that..
Now Lee tells me that there are to be no reprints of year 3 promo's for anywhere outside the US. So what we get are hand downs and stuff left over.. It seems to me that there is probably a limited number of the promo's available and that he is trying to ration them.
It still doesn't explain why retailers in teh UK are selling fistfulls of promo's we have never seen on E-bay but may explain why we are not getting a mass handout.
Be thankfull that we are getting the cards I suppose is the message.
Still we are up for a Trainer A and B deck at the South East Challenge on the 15th December.
click here for updates
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"a meaningless title is just that ... meaningless"
"London Super Battlezone 2003"
quote the judge...
'only joking' on misreported match results: DQ Yep its that serious!
14,000 deck boxes yeah we'll take all of them .... what have I done!
Find the Pokemon League and Tournaments in Kent at:The Gamers Guild
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ukpokemonpro
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posted October 30, 2002 08:52 PM
Aggghhh Freddy just read my email and you've gone ATOMIC!
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ukpokemonpro
"a meaningless title is just that ... meaningless"
"London Super Battlezone 2003"
quote the judge...
'only joking' on misreported match results: DQ Yep its that serious!
14,000 deck boxes yeah we'll take all of them .... what have I done!
Find the Pokemon League and Tournaments in Kent at:The Gamers Guild
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ukpokemonpro
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posted October 31, 2002 11:46 PM
Last night I asked the MT's during Chat what they would do to ensure that the UK does not suffer the same fate with BattleZone as we have with the leagues... that is 3 years of incomplete kits, missing promo's and no support
The ansa's were most negative and MTM's response of "we can't always have what we want" very unhelpful.
He did point out that the UK office has been combined with the "Nasbro Office" perhaps a freudian slip for Nasty Hasbro?? And that budgets were tight.
However our concerns and negative impression of WotC UK go back far further than just this year.
And yet it seems the US is just not getting the point we try to put accross... it isn't working here, it isn't working in a lot of Europe either.. please stop telling us to go back to the local office.. because it is that local office we have a problem with.
It seems that the UK may well be seeing the end of OP if we do not do something about it... Maybe Freddy's Nuclear Bomb of an email was just the start?
When Michel asked about the European release of BattleZone he was again told to go back to the Local Office.
Is there no co-ordination now within WotC worldwide?
Will Master Professors and Professors outside the US continue to be ignored and Sidelined?
Will we have to buy our promo's and kits of the Net as we have had to do for soem of this years promo's?
It seems there were no answers last night .. I for one will be trying to stay up again next week for round 2.
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"a meaningless title is just that ... meaningless"
"London Super Battlezone 2003"
quote the judge...
'only joking' on misreported match results: DQ Yep its that serious!
14,000 deck boxes yeah we'll take all of them .... what have I done!
Find the Pokemon League and Tournaments in Kent at:The Gamers Guild
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ukpokemonpro
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posted November 01, 2002 04:58 AM
Michel once again says it all right here shame the post was locked as it would have been good to have discussed the lack of support from WotC US further..
Still now the Broadband is in I should be able to keep logged onto the chat next week and not thrown out by BT halfway thru'
Thanks Michel for your thoughts and words you are a star.
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"a meaningless title is just that ... meaningless"
"London Super Battlezone 2003"
quote the judge...
'only joking' on misreported match results: DQ Yep its that serious!
14,000 deck boxes yeah we'll take all of them .... what have I done!
Find the Pokemon League and Tournaments in Kent at:The Gamers Guild
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posted November 01, 2002 05:10 AM
I must say that the persistance of the European professors is worth a great deal.
It's a real shame that WotC doesn't see all the efforts some Professors do(I'm not talking about myself though)
I attended a chat in January when we where expecting news about the European GC and SC and Prof. Programs. But staying up that late and still just get dissapointment from lack of response about Europe made me decide not to attend the chats anymore, even if it would be possible at times.
After reading yesterdays chat I must say that Europe was once again let down. Both Michel and Pro tried to get some positive feedback that WotC really does care about the game in Europe but I'm sorry to say they where let down yet again. It felt more like a slap in the face and "shut up Europe we don't care" allthough I'm sure it was not intended that way.
It really does seem that WotC in general doesn't give hoots about Europe. It's a real shame considering how many top players we've had over the last years. Over and over again we have shown the US players that the Europeans are competitive but over and over again we have to bend over backwards to keep OP going.
I'm personally still waiting on the new distributor to put some support in the game and help us get a new location for the league here. They claim that there are several leagues going(14-18) but I haven't heard a word from anyone asking about what the 2 professors in the country can do for them. I don't even have a list of the leagues so there is no way I can offer my services as a professor either.
What surprises me in a way is that I keep on going to these boards...and keep on trying to keep up at least some of the game....but in the end....what is it worth...I wonder.... ![[Frown]](../tcg/frown.gif)
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posted November 01, 2002 06:27 AM
Dumbledore,
I gotta say I am with you on is it worth being there for chat but with Michel and Lord_Ninetails there we could chat a bit.
Perhaps we should lobby on mass next week?
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"a meaningless title is just that ... meaningless"
"London Super Battlezone 2003"
quote the judge...
'only joking' on misreported match results: DQ Yep its that serious!
14,000 deck boxes yeah we'll take all of them .... what have I done!
Find the Pokemon League and Tournaments in Kent at:The Gamers Guild
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posted November 01, 2002 07:49 AM
Hello Team Europe!
I want you all to know that I have sent most of you an e-mail. The contents of such, are not appropriate for this forum. But, I want to hear ALL of your concerns, so I can put some plans into motion.
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posted November 01, 2002 08:55 AM
OK, here's the topic I had started under the name : UK : God save our Game '.
BTW, I understand that the topic has been closed, as there are already differents topics on the subject.
Here's what I've written :
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master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #220 from ukpokemonpro:
I hope I am doing this right and sorry if I have got the protocol wrong.. my question is this ... We have been having a lot of problems with league kits and promo's over the last three years.. like not getting them! What will you be doing to ensure Ba
master_trainer_mike says, "The UK office, as you may know, was abosrbed intop the Nasbro UK office. There have been many staff and budget changes there and I know they are all working as hard as they can."
master_trainer_mike says, "With limited staff and budgets, they have had to make choices on what they can and can't do quickly."
master_trainer_mike says, "I know they want to support Pokemon, but have all sorts of limitations that we can't go into."
master_trainer_mike says, "Keep letting them know of your desire and interest to help and they will get to you when they can."
master_trainer_mike says, "The same goes for all of our offices (including this one) - chat Oct 31."
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I have no doubt about the fact that ex-WotC UK want to support Pokemon and do all they can.
That situation has already happened in Europe
I remember a sunny Sunday in Paris in May last year. More than 300 Pokemon players were playing the STS qualifier (how many US qualifiers had so much players ?).
Some months later, the WotC France office was closed and the members of the staff have either been fired, or sent to the Hasbro office close to the Swiss border.
Today, Pokemon is dead in France !!!
Exactly the same situation as in the UK today.
Pokemon is not making enough money, and MtG is THE game of WotC. All the efforts and investments are put in MtG, nothing for Pokemon anymore.
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master_trainer_mike presents the speaker with question #240 from ukpokemonpro:
We keep being told in the UK that the office here wants to help us but has limitations yet when we ask to help we are ignored and we don't see any sign of them wanting to help us.. what do you suggest we do?
master_trainer_mike says, "I'm sorry, but you can't always get what you want."
master_trainer_pat says, "Now we're talkin'"
master_trainer_mike says, "They are reallyt limited in budget and staff."
master_trainer_mike says, "Offer to help."
master_trainer_mike says, "Run your own tournaments."
master_trainer_mike says, "Certainly stay in touch with them, they will do what they can when they can."
master_trainer_mike says, "I'm sorry but sometimes thats the way it is."
master_trainer_mike says, "I cried the day that The Muppet show was canceled." chat Oct 31
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Mike, I'm sure you know how I do appreciate you as a person and I do appreciate the great job you do for our game and our community, but I'm sorry to tell you that this time I think your answer is not very honest towards the UK professors.
You can't always get what you want ?
Would you accept that US league and players receive no kits and promos for months ? Is it too much to ask to be treatened like any other GL in the World, to ask that the UK kids are treatened like the US kids ?
Offer to help ?
Mike, you were in Rainham for the GC, you were at the GenCon in London. Who did the job there ?
Remember London ... who was behind the computer (Ukpokemonpro), who was judge, who helped to run the events with YOU ?
Where was WotC UK staff during that time ? Probably explaining to the Mtg players why they had failed in their attempts to cancel the Pokemon tournament on Saturday because more tables were needed for the Magic tournament ![[Dubious]](../tcg/graemlins/dubious.gif)
The only Pokemon decision taken by WotC UK (but I maybe missed some others) has been to allow 3 non professors to the Prof event
Are the UK Professors and GL not doing a great job ? They're running leagues every week without the support of their national office. They try to trade (or buy) promos, badges, league books, ... for their kids, they have a lot of initiatives for the game and to bring new players to the game. What else could they do ?
Would you accept that situation in the USA ?
Running tournaments ? 93 tournaments have been run by UK Professors since the beginning of the year. Is it that bad ? Do they have to do more ? Even the GC have been organized by Professors !
Stay in touch with WotC office ? They do it every day, but nobody answer !
They'll do what they can when they can ? May I translate it by 'if they have no more budget and staff, they'll not do more than what they do today" ?
You cried the day the Muppet show was canceled ?
Who will cry the day the Pokemon show will be definitively canceled in the UK ?
Look at who's fighting for the game, the answer is maybe there ...
I understand that there are strategic and economic aspects in all that stuff.
But there is a human aspect too. Professors, GL, TO, players, parents, ... are involved.
People like Ian, Ben, Freddy and all the others in the UK are desperately trying to keep the game alive in their country.
I'm sure solutions could be found, like asking WotC Europe to work on the Pokemon game in the UK.
But if WotC has decided to cancel the Pokemon show in the UK, it would be better to be clear on that point instead of putting the pressure on people who are already working so hard for our game.
Anyway, the day these people will stop, the show will be over, like in France last year.
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posted November 01, 2002 10:24 AM
No reply well here was the bomb...
Hello Lee, this email has been Cc: to Michael Gills as I received a response the last time I did this on March 7th earlier this year. I have also sent a copy to all the professors and league co-ordinators who have, in direct conversation or otherwise, implied that they have experienced similar problems with regards to Pokémon League activity this year.
In March you quoted in an e-mail:
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"I will see you at the Gym Challenges and then I hope to have a full meeting with you all (both Pokémon Professors & League Organisers) at
the End of April to discuss both your idea's for Pokémon at GenCon and also your idea's for Pokémon for the remaining time in this year and
beyond. I also hope to give you some insight into the decision making process that goes on here at WOTC UK and also show you that, whilst in the
past we may not have appeared as caring about Pokémon as we could have, we are as commited to the brand and organised play for Pokémon as we are
to Magic The Gathering."
I also wish to apologise for not replying to any of your previous emails - I have read them and appreciated the idea's that you have shown in them.
Furthermore in April an email from you Lee stated:
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"I am about to send an email to all of the Professors within the UK offering them the chance to send me ideas about ways in which we can help grow the Pokémon Tournaments and Competitions within the UK. Once I have received this, I hope to condense it down to some of the more practical ideas and then discuss them with yourselves and any other professors that can make the time to come and see me."
I have to say that I am disappointed, particularly since the meeting you'd hoped happen plus the discussions about Pokémon for the remaining time of the year have not materialised at all.
I've noticed that you've not answered any of my last four emails to yourself,
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 17:35:02 +0100
Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 20:44:40 +0100
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 18:10:04 +0100
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 23:38:10 +0100
and have not sent out an email since August 2002 to finalise details of GenConUK.
I wanted to know how I could pick up all the new kits for year 3 if it was easier, like last time to attend in person the WotC-UK offices. I also requested some posters and/or flyers, that I could have local gaming shops display to advertise the league's tournaments and activities. These posters were present unless I'm mistaken in the kits given out during Year 1, which wasn't received by our local league in Slough.
I also asked how we could get the league locator updated in the UK, and offered to undertake one of your responsibilities, to ring around those stores that are still advertised on the wizards.com website as hosting the league. One of your responsibilities, as you quoted in an earlier email that:
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"My name is Lee Singleton and I have worked within Wizards of the COast UK for the last 18 months or so. I started as the Organised Play
Representative for the UK and Ireland. My job involved travelling to different stores within the country and trying to convince them to run at
least 1 of our many different organised play programmes. (from Magic through to Pokémon, Harry Potter ect.) I was also the point of contact for
Magic Arena League. When Gideon Left I also took on the job of part co-ordinating the Pokémon League."
In that email you also said, but never followed through:
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"I also would like to send out regular emails to you guys in the UK only to help us keep in constant communication throughout the coming years! If you have any comments or questions please email me and i will answer
you as soon as possible"
I have now come to know on the Wizards.com message boards that you have decided to not release Year 3 kits. This was something that you said would happen, when I visited you at WotC-UK headquarters in June. Instead you've decided to send out the League 2 promos including Cleffa, Togepi and Smeargle. You have also undertaken to send us league 1 promos including Cool Porygon and Dark Gyarados Prerelease. And finally you have skipped through to offer Scyther and Mew promos from the middle of year 3.
Could I say first of all that I think you need to review the promos with regards to the order of their release? To recap just in case you may need to have a reminder as I can understand, with all your responsibilities at WotC-UK, that it may be hard to keep up with all the different TCGs that you manage. You may find it of help to know that the number located at the bottom right hand corner of each card has a number. That number is significant, as it shows you what order the promos were manufactured. They do tie in generally with the order of the cards that should be released through the leagues.
Here is a chart to show what I mean as emails can be somewhat confusing, I know:
Year 1 --> Year 2 --> Year 3
The arrows represent the order of progression. The Pokémon League runs through a course of years. Year 1 precedes Year 2. After Year 2 comes Year 3. In the US they are completing Year 3 and are preparing themselves for Pokémon:Battlezone, which is effectively Year 4's activities.
So the promo that we are expecting to receive in UK leagues as we have finished Year 2 this summer are the Year 3 promo cards - these include Pokémon Tower Promos, Rainbow Energy holos, Machamp promos, Fighting Energy Holos, Magmar Promos, Fire Energy Holos and so on through all the Basic Energy types of Pokémon.
If you now have the earlier promos that were due to be released in previous years but were never sent out, i.e.
Dark Persian Promo's
Flying Pikachu Promo's
Pre-release Gyrados
Cleffa Promo's
Cool Porygon Promo's
Smeargle Promo's
Mew Promo's
Togepi Promo's
Now would be as good a time as any to receive those promos so that our league members can finally move on. It would also help to have them so that we could run tournaments effectively and have such promos as prizes which is the way forward. But obviously we can't move on until we have these promos which is why we'd like to have them as soon as possible, preferably within a week.
With the 15th December 2002 event at Rainham it would be nice to have some promotional support from WotC - in fact it would be a great opportunity, if you did have other TCGs you wished to promote, to have some company representatives there to help teach these new strategy games. How about getting into contact with nintendo UK and having them set up a bunker of Gamecubes with Super Smash Melee, and Pokémon Stadium II there? How about having a giant Pikachu or Pichu for the smaller kids to take photos with, preferably for the local press? We can foresee other ways of promoting the game, with local flyers stating 'Meet Pikachu' at the Rainham South East Pokémon Challenge. We would like to talk these things through but if you refuse to establish regular email contact with the Porfessors, Master Professors and league coordinators then surely it's difficult to know what to do at the ground level?
Lee - we've made you many pledges to help and to be honest it's not nice being ignored. We would like to help support and promote this game and we'd like you to co--ordinate everything on the company side, so that we really do have a point of contact within the company.
It's something we really feel would help kickstart the Pokémon TCG again in the UK. We are doing our utmost without WotC looking after us but we need your help. Ben Ward is doing this South-East Challenge and would like you to do a mailshot out to the Players on your mailing list. I'm now a freelance journalist for 'Pokémon World' magazine and would like to set up an interview with you and a tour of the WotC HQ & card warehouse for pictures so that we can have an article that will be read by kids reading the magazine across Europe.
Please respond to this email if at all to only one of mine.
Many thanks for your time,
Faisal 'Freddy' K
Master Professor
Gym Leader, Pokémon League Slough
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posted November 01, 2002 10:44 AM
Freddy did you get a reply to your email from anyone??
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"a meaningless title is just that ... meaningless"
"London Super Battlezone 2003"
quote the judge...
'only joking' on misreported match results: DQ Yep its that serious!
14,000 deck boxes yeah we'll take all of them .... what have I done!
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posted November 01, 2002 12:43 PM
Just in case you think it's just Pokemon they ignore at WotC UK I told Lee we would run a Star Wars Tourney on the 15th December too and Lee said he would get it listed as a Jedi Nights Tourney.. guess what .. a quick search on the DCI site for Future Star Wars Tourneys in England gave this result..
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Sorry, there are no tournaments that match these selection criteria.
Please change your search options.
Spooky that WotC UK haven't done what they said they would?
But then it takes so long to sanction a tourney online and oh so very long to import and then upload the results.. 2 and a half months for UK GenCon results and counting.
Still when you let underage TO's sanction and play and win their own tourneys just prior to an STS so that they get the magic 2000 points needed for 3 byes and then follow that up later by letting the same player play in a professor tourney when they are not a professor and then let them win a prize with a Deck of 61 cards that doesn't match their Deck List.. not bothering with DCI points and posting results for players is the least of our worries.
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"a meaningless title is just that ... meaningless"
"London Super Battlezone 2003"
quote the judge...
'only joking' on misreported match results: DQ Yep its that serious!
14,000 deck boxes yeah we'll take all of them .... what have I done!
Find the Pokemon League and Tournaments in Kent at:The Gamers Guild
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posted November 01, 2002 09:55 PM
WotC-UK are determined not to reply to my mail from earlier this week, so that's five emails in a row ignored.
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-fK
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UK Challenge Finals 2001 & 2002 Judge
Sweden & Germany STSQ winner 2001
Features writer for Pokémon World magazine - go buy!
Click to visit the website of the UK's National Pokémon Team, Team UK
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posted November 01, 2002 10:01 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Michel:
People like Ian, Ben, Freddy and all the others in the UK are desperately trying to keep the game alive in their country.
I'm sure solutions could be found, like asking WotC Europe to work on the Pokemon game in the UK.
But if WotC has decided to cancel the Pokemon show in the UK, it would be better to be clear on that point instead of putting the pressure on people who are already working so hard for our game.
Anyway, the day these people will stop, the show will be over, like in France last year.
No truer word spoken Michel. This is what we've suggested all along. But WotC are doing a 'France' on WotC-UK. Are they really trying to help us outside the USA anymore? I am starting to doubt it very much.
-fK
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UK Challenge Finals 2001 & 2002 Judge
Sweden & Germany STSQ winner 2001
Features writer for Pokémon World magazine - go buy!
Click to visit the website of the UK's National Pokémon Team, Team UK
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posted November 01, 2002 10:11 PM
At what point can this not be called optimism?
I bet a reverse foil Exp Rattata you don't get a reply.
Like I said previously, a certain man or woman at a certain company is getting paid to sit there and scratch himself or herself.
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posted November 01, 2002 11:44 PM
Hasn't anyone noticed that the people complaining the most about lack of response from WotcUK are the same people who do the most at a local level to keep the game alive?
We want to help.
We have offered to help.
We get no reply.
We ask for promotional materials to advertise league
Some have made their own posters for upcomming events which WotCUK said they would distribute to the other leagues.
No response.
The story about league kits and promos changes with each telling.
But it matters not, all promises are broken.
We have offered to package and distribute the league materials ourselves.
No need we are told, that problem has been fixed.
Heads up guys:- the problem remains!
We know that WotcUK are understaffed.
We do as much as we can on our own.
OP is a partnership and one side is heading for divorce due to the frustration of dealing with the wotc office.
The only thing that we are asking for is that our offers to help are replied to. But how do you deal with a brick wall?
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'legal stalling' : game loss at least
'only joking' on misreported match results: DQ Yep its that serious!
The prize swap penalty as it applies to shuffling.
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posted November 02, 2002 01:04 AM
The whole situation is just disturbing. We, the people who run Leagues and tournaments, are the people who ADVERTISE this game and HELP ITS SALES. We get absolutely no help at all from the people who earn the money on this game! This is just sick and absurd.
Why does it have to be so hard to support Pokémon? Why do we have to see again and again that we have to do all the work, all the e-mails and boards posting, only to get a few weeks of happiness before everything turns dark again?
But we never give up on the game, and that's the most important thing. Even though it sometimes looks like the whole world around us wants us to give up.
/Golduck
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