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Topic: Real problems in the UK - help us!
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Hairy Clefairy
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posted October 25, 2002 01:49 PM
Hi there,
We're having real problems in the UK.
- no league kits for year 3: promised September 2002, never sent out from WotC-UK even though they have them
- no P:Exp : as far as we understand, stock has to go through the UK in order to reach Europe. Well, the rest of Europe has them, but you can't find them anywhere in the shops.
- no help for league : we can't access any way to update our league locations, so people just don't bother when they are interested in playing but reach dead leagues
- no sympathy from WotC-UK : emails, phone calls, you name it it's ignored.
I'm going to try to keep this post alive and would like other UK Master Professors to log onto this post with their efforts and expected failures on improving the situation over here.
For today, I have sent Lee Singleton (WotC-UK Pokémon rep) an email asking for a way to get the league kits out for year 3, plus a way of getting the league details updated for my league (we're in a different store!)
-fK
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From: England UK | Pokémon League - Burger King, High St, Slough Sundays 10am-2pm | Registered: Oct 2002
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ukpokemonpro
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posted October 25, 2002 09:08 PM
Great idea Freddy let's start with an easy one..
4 weeks ago I sent WotC UK 130 flyers advertising the South East Challenge .. these were to be posted to every league and to individuals on WotC's mailing list.
Now NoPoke hasn't seen any yet .. indeed I sent some more direct to him because of it... Has anyone else had anything from WotC direct?
Remember these were printed at my expense not WotC's.
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"a meaningless title is just that ... meaningless"
"London Super Battlezone 2003"
quote the judge...
'only joking' on misreported match results: DQ Yep its that serious!
14,000 deck boxes yeah we'll take all of them .... what have I done!
Find the Pokemon League and Tournaments in Kent at:The Gamers Guild
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Hairy Clefairy
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posted October 25, 2002 09:53 PM
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Originally posted by ukpokemonpro:
Great idea Freddy let's start with an easy one..
4 weeks ago I sent WotC UK 130 flyers advertising the South East Challenge .. these were to be posted to every league and to individuals on WotC's mailing list.
Now NoPoke hasn't seen any yet .. indeed I sent some more direct to him because of it... Has anyone else had anything from WotC direct?
Remember these were printed at my expense not WotC's.
I've not had anything to my league. ![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
I've also not had anything through WotC-UK's mailing list. Does it exist?
-fK ![[Confused]](confused.gif)
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UK Challenge Finals 2001 & 2002 Judge
Sweden & Germany STSQ winner 2001
Features writer for Pokémon World magazine - go buy!
Click to visit the website of the UK's National Pokémon Team, Team UK
From: England UK | Pokémon League - Burger King, High St, Slough Sundays 10am-2pm | Registered: Oct 2002
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Hairy Clefairy
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posted October 25, 2002 10:14 PM
Well now I've e-mailed the Prof listing address and given the updated details for our league. I've also offered to check out the other UK leagues for them if they like, as long as I get a response and promise that they'll be updated I've got no problem with this.
Like Lee could have done this any time in the last two years and it would have taken him 10 or so minutes. But of course that what I'm paid to do. Oh, sorry forgot, I don't WORK for WotC-UK do I??? Like why am I offering to do it I don't know... *grumbles something about love for this game*
-fK
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UK Challenge Finals 2001 & 2002 Judge
Sweden & Germany STSQ winner 2001
Features writer for Pokémon World magazine - go buy!
Click to visit the website of the UK's National Pokémon Team, Team UK
From: England UK | Pokémon League - Burger King, High St, Slough Sundays 10am-2pm | Registered: Oct 2002
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Martin Moreno
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posted October 25, 2002 10:21 PM
My advice: Play Yu-Gi-Oh!
Welcome back, to SPAM?
[ October 25, 2002, 11:12 PM: Message edited by: IPGeek21 ]
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matthewssandslash
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posted October 25, 2002 10:39 PM
Hum... sorry.
And please, ignore Martin. For that matter, ignore me.
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NoPoke
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posted October 25, 2002 10:45 PM
Well you know that I was extreeeeemly fed up over genconuk. I even changed my sig for a while!
Go to the DCI pages and search for tournaments in the UK. GenconUK was a big event, and what do we see...
three events.
Would you believe that this is *good* news? last week there was only one event up, and Gencon was a long time ago. I was beginning to think that the tournament results had been lost/deleted.
Of course the results for one of those three events is incorrect, but we can't have everything! Right?
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'Good News' or 'Bad News' but NOT NO NEWS
some people brag about their tournament results, me I'm gonna brag??? about what players have managed to get past me LOL
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'legal stalling' : game loss at least
'only joking' on misreported match results: DQ Yep its that serious!
The prize swap penalty as it applies to shuffling.
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NoPoke
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posted October 25, 2002 10:56 PM
quote:
Originally posted by matthewssandslash:
Hum... sorry.
And please, ignore Martin. For that matter, ignore me.
You know what, i think that there is some sage advise there. Though I'm not sure I'd pick YuGiOh.
We tried SWTCG and that has all but died in the UK ![[Frown]](frown.gif) . (same old story - no support)
Some of the kids are playing YuGiOh. (FAD). Well at least they still turn up!
Magic would get support from the UK office and does seem like a solid game, I'm just not sure that the players will go for it.
So whats left... well the best support in the UK comes from non-Wizards branded games. HeroClix looks like fun
Did you know that the UK is often refered to as the 51st state of America by some of the more republican types over here. There are times when I wish it was true.
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'Good News' or 'Bad News' but NOT NO NEWS
some people brag about their tournament results, me I'm gonna brag??? about what players have managed to get past me LOL
-------Hoodwinked---(things I won't get wrong again...)------
'legal stalling' : game loss at least
'only joking' on misreported match results: DQ Yep its that serious!
The prize swap penalty as it applies to shuffling.
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ukpokemonpro
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posted October 26, 2002 01:18 AM
Martin's Okay he can post SPAM all he likes as far as I am concerned and maybe sometimes we'll even read it ![[Wink]](wink.gif)
As for the UK well it comes to something when every Professor I talk to is ****** at WotC UK.
We try to work out a relationship with them but we do need to see something.. yes I know we have had 4 Gym Challenges and 4 days of gaming at UK GenCon.
But along with those high points we also got players being told they must pre-register to play at UK GenCon and that they couldn't turn up on the day to play?
Non-Professors with illegal decks playing in the professor tournament.
No Advertising for Gym Challenges until after the first had taken place.
Incorrect League listings on the Website
NO league kits and a general lack of response from WotC UK.
God I sound like I moan all the time but it could be good with just a little effort from WotC UK .. we are willing but are they??
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ukpokemonpro
"a meaningless title is just that ... meaningless"
"London Super Battlezone 2003"
quote the judge...
'only joking' on misreported match results: DQ Yep its that serious!
14,000 deck boxes yeah we'll take all of them .... what have I done!
Find the Pokemon League and Tournaments in Kent at:The Gamers Guild
From: Gillingham, Kent, UK | Registered: Feb 2001
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Golduck
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posted October 26, 2002 01:26 AM
We have League Kits for Season 1-3 of Y3, but Promos only for the Rainbow Season. So we've only got Jigglypuff, Tower and Rainbow. But now Rainbow Season is over, and we still have about 20 of those badge-book-replacing-thingies left. I'd be glad to help you UK gym leaders out, and I could send you the remaining 20 if that helps (at least until Wizards UK do something more).
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SauroN
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posted October 26, 2002 03:42 AM
About expedition...
I think you have to be more patient than that.
Sweden havent got the set yet either...just wait a week or 2 and I'm sure it'll be out...
uhm if someone is gonna quit...switch to LotR =/
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Gengar094
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posted October 26, 2002 05:20 AM
Is there a way for you to switch to Wizards Belgium?
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ShadowCard
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posted October 26, 2002 07:10 AM
Yu-gi-oh unfortunately is my alternative choice. It still being a fad worries me. It is actually kinda boring. If you'd make a pokemon deck to resemble a yu-gi-oh deck, you'd be called a trainermon. decks based on trainers to do the work of the pokemon are boring. Is europe really that bad off with getting pokemon supplies, or is the idea exaggerated?
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Martin Moreno
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posted October 26, 2002 08:15 AM
Well, I actually do think Pokemon is a better game than Yu-Gi-Oh! by far. But, the problem is, Pokemon tournaments are gettign harder and harder to find. There are none in my entire state thats within a 100 mile radious.
So for now I will play Yu-Gi-Oh! to scratch that competitive itch.
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"Martin, you've been mentally outta here for a long time." -PokePop
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Hairy Clefairy
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posted October 26, 2002 08:29 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Gengar094:
Is there a way for you to switch to Wizards Belgium?
I sometimes wonder myself if this is the way forward, too.
Perhaps one of the MTs could comment on this for us and say if it is at all possible or not.
-fK
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Freddy K. within circles - 2 1337 4 U - AIM TEFr3ddyK
UK Challenge Finals 2001 & 2002 Judge
Sweden & Germany STSQ winner 2001
Features writer for Pokémon World magazine - go buy!
Click to visit the website of the UK's National Pokémon Team, Team UK
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NoPoke
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posted October 26, 2002 09:21 AM
No, Europe may be better than the UK but the best support is in the USA. Come on George W B, annex the UK. You know that you want to....
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'Good News' or 'Bad News' but NOT NO NEWS
some people brag about their tournament results, me I'm gonna brag??? about what players have managed to get past me LOL
-------Hoodwinked---(things I won't get wrong again...)------
'legal stalling' : game loss at least
'only joking' on misreported match results: DQ Yep its that serious!
The prize swap penalty as it applies to shuffling.
From: Crawley England | Registered: Sep 2001
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ShadowCard
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posted October 26, 2002 09:22 AM
perhaps wizards should put a subheadquarters in europe. might help...
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ukpokemonpro
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posted October 26, 2002 09:35 AM
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Is europe really that bad off with getting pokemon supplies, or is the idea exaggerated?
OH YES AT LEAST IN THE UK
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perhaps wizards should put a subheadquarters in europe. might help...
If by that you mean local offices we already have them, UK, France, Italy and Europe .. any I missed guys and gals??
What we don't have is anyone doing anything to help promote the game and keep it going apart from us Professors..
We just lost yet another league location and a big one at that.. at the moment WotC UK are the disease and there is no cure..
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ukpokemonpro
"a meaningless title is just that ... meaningless"
"London Super Battlezone 2003"
quote the judge...
'only joking' on misreported match results: DQ Yep its that serious!
14,000 deck boxes yeah we'll take all of them .... what have I done!
Find the Pokemon League and Tournaments in Kent at:The Gamers Guild
From: Gillingham, Kent, UK | Registered: Feb 2001
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Super Amphy
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posted October 26, 2002 11:06 AM
Oooh, oooh, I can remember looking to see if the DCI post for the 11-14 GC was up for Gen Con. It wasn't there. So I just checked now and...it's still not. Sure, the under 10s have got there's up. Is 30 names too much to type, Lee?
I've just stopped going to my league...the kits won't turn up, the kids there don't wanna try and be even slightly competent, and if I don't go to the league I have enough time for a second OBC tourney at MTGO in a weekend.
With Magic Online, you can buy a solid competitive deck for about $20. Learn to play with it, then join tournaments. They cost $5, if you top 8 you get 6 packs which can be sold or traded for $20 of stuff. And your opponents can't punch you.
Also you don't need to rely on certain people who NEVER get things done. Can you believe they get paid for that? Would be great for a webcam link to Lee's office...he probably sits there playing MTGO all day.
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NoPoke
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posted October 26, 2002 11:15 AM
Actually there is very little typing to do for the genconUk tournaments. Ukpokemonpro has done all the tournament entry and results, all Lee has to do is sanction and send them on to the DCI. Anyone who has done online sanctioning knows that Sanctioning and Electronic reporting are the easy bits of running a Tournament.
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'Good News' or 'Bad News' but NOT NO NEWS
some people brag about their tournament results, me I'm gonna brag??? about what players have managed to get past me LOL
-------Hoodwinked---(things I won't get wrong again...)------
'legal stalling' : game loss at least
'only joking' on misreported match results: DQ Yep its that serious!
The prize swap penalty as it applies to shuffling.
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ukpokemonpro
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posted October 26, 2002 11:55 AM
Super Amphy,
so come to ours instead we got some but not all the promos, but we got expedition and prizes and 30+ regular players.
Or you could take on someone elses league...
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ukpokemonpro
"a meaningless title is just that ... meaningless"
"London Super Battlezone 2003"
quote the judge...
'only joking' on misreported match results: DQ Yep its that serious!
14,000 deck boxes yeah we'll take all of them .... what have I done!
Find the Pokemon League and Tournaments in Kent at:The Gamers Guild
From: Gillingham, Kent, UK | Registered: Feb 2001
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Hairy Clefairy
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posted October 26, 2002 01:07 PM
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Is europe really that bad off with getting pokemon supplies, or is the idea exaggerated?
Unbelieveably within the UK, yes.
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perhaps wizards should put a subheadquarters in europe. might help...
Well the current status effects for their subheadquarters are as follows for Pokémon:
WotC-France - paralysed (no life signs at all)
WotC-Italy - confused (no ideas on OP)
WotC-Europe - poisoned (suffering from budget cuts)
WotC-UK - asleep (Customer feedback? What's that? )
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What we don't have is anyone doing anything to help promote the game and keep it going apart from us Professors..
Couldn't agree with you more 'pro.
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We just lost yet another league location and a big one at that.. at the moment WotC UK are the disease and there is no cure..
This makes me so mad and upset ![[Mad]](mad.gif) why oh why is no-one taking charge of these things? Why is Pokémon being left to die?
We've been made Professors and for what? Just for us to do something as we're refusing to switch to MTG? What about all the promises about listening to our feedback? Remember this 'pro?
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I also would like to send out regular emails to you guys in the UK only to
help us keep in constant communication throughout the coming years!
If you have any comments or questions please email me and i will answer
you as soon as possible
Thanks for your time and opinions
Lee Singleton
Organised Play Rep.
And what about this?
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I would like to ask for your opinions about ways in which we can help the
Pokémon tournament playing community grow throughout the UK
...and yet where have we gotten to post-GenConUK?
-fK
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UK Challenge Finals 2001 & 2002 Judge
Sweden & Germany STSQ winner 2001
Features writer for Pokémon World magazine - go buy!
Click to visit the website of the UK's National Pokémon Team, Team UK
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Super Amphy
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posted October 26, 2002 10:12 PM
pro I live in Nottingham. The only league remotely close to me is the one I've talked about, and even though I'd like to come to your tourneys, it's not a trip I could complete in a day. Even then, the prize wouldn't cover travel expenses
And the fact that all Lee has to do is send them to the DCI just rubs it in.
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ukpokemonpro
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posted October 26, 2002 10:23 PM
Shame you can't make it Super Amphy, if you can make a weekend of it we have an all day PokeFest on Sunday 15th December 2002.
We are giving out bucket loads of prizes in our Age Modified Swiss Tourney and the Highest placed player in each age group wins a Box of Boosters, Hard to get Promo's and other goodies.
We've got traders coming too and will be looking to show just what we can do without WotC help..
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ukpokemonpro
"a meaningless title is just that ... meaningless"
"London Super Battlezone 2003"
quote the judge...
'only joking' on misreported match results: DQ Yep its that serious!
14,000 deck boxes yeah we'll take all of them .... what have I done!
Find the Pokemon League and Tournaments in Kent at:The Gamers Guild
From: Gillingham, Kent, UK | Registered: Feb 2001
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sentimental_blastoise
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posted October 26, 2002 11:49 PM
NoPoke - Lord Of The Rings TCG - League kits can be bought directly from Decipher for a decent price as well as the *through shop method*. Amazing tournament reporting and retail information on DGMA.com. Printable starter decks and card scans of every card to date at decipher.com.
So if you don't want to feed WOTC UK's Magic Pockets... ![[Bored]](graemlins/dozey.gif)
Am greatly looking forward to the 15th, but not the future. Freddy, those emails from Lee sounded like such a breath of fresh air at the time didn't they?
Am way off topic now I know, but any news on whether Exp will be sanctioned for the 15th 'pro?
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