Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

call energy

~`Flygon`~ said:
Im not gonna use ghost head cuz banette setups to t2 80,so unless u got the same to search or to use phoine,then itll be a waste. Call is ok,but how good will it be??
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You aren't going to get T2 80 every game. give me a break. If it got that every game, it would be the best deck in the format. It isn't. Seriously, stow the BS and get back with reality -_-*.

Call Energy is the best card in the set, fact.
 
it's been a long time since i have done probabilities but i think that if you have four of any card in your 60 card deck there is a 51.2% chance that one will be one of the seven cards you draw at the start. of course this says nothing of the odds of also having a basic starter so i can't rightly say what the true odds are of starting with a call energy in your hand: it is specific to each deck, but the odds are not that bad in any case, especially if you consider that you might top deck a call energy instead (8.5% chance if none of them are prized).
 
ummmm away from bannete, back to CE you guys?

I think it is horrid. it CANT be searched for (besides furret- but if you have that out why would you need it?)
It ends your turn. That is terrible, the worst thing ever. if it didnt, THEN it would be amazing, but i could just use pachi to attack and use its effects more than once for the same energy.

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i think the best card in the set is snowpoint temple by far. a killer for stage one decks like rayquaza and groudon, which will both see fair amounts of play next season... and it benefits my super secret awesome deck...
 
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Not only did you just say the best card in the set is bad, you said the best card was one not even in the set.
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Ok, enough of this.
Call Energy is amazing. Here is why. It is a free CFF added to any of your pokemon that allows you to grab basics. This means that ANY pokemon you start with can set you up. Combined with a few Roseanne, Celio, and Pacharisu, you will almost never get a bad start.
And what if you don't get it early game? NEWS FLASH, ITS AN ENERGY CARD. That means you can drop it onto your pokemon and be able to attack using it, since I cannot name any popular pokemon that require all non-colorless energy to attack. Its a Roseanne that works as an energy and doesn't use your supporter, it just ends your turn. Well, if you start with something like Phione or Baltoy into a sub Pacharisu.
The only decks I don't see this in are Garchomp, LeafTile, and decks relying on multi. Its amazing, accept it people.
 
i agree with you sparta. what i don't understand is why the naysayers say it isnt searchable -- that is what pokedex and pokenav exactly do and they are very much in play with the claydol fishing engine.
 
yoyofsho16 said:
i think the best card in the set is snowpoint temple by far. a killer for stage one decks like rayquaza and groudon, which will both see fair amounts of play next season... and it benefits my super secret awesome deck...
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Snowpoint Temple is in JAPAN's DP5 ... our DP5 is not the same. Our DP5 is leftovers from Japan's DP4 that we didn't get in our DP4 & their Promo cards that we don't have yet. We will not see Snowpoint until after worlds.
 
wait i thought that is what youre talking about... call is coming in MD?

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i refuse to accept this card. it makes a deck run nothing but slower. that is one turn you could be attacking (aka phione). why are people saying call and phione are good together when phione and roseanne (A SEARCHABLE CARD) could get it all and evolve in one turn?!?! even if you go first, on your next turn its one swift move.
 
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Besides the fact that Roseanne doesnt work if you go first? Which means 50% of the time you are slower than them AND you lose your supporter.
 
I didn't mention anything about Phione. I didn't mention anything about not running Roseanne. I think I even said you run Call Energy AND Roseanne.

Making a deck slower? LOL! At least I'll be drawing something to power my guys later in the game than a Pachirisu.
 
If you run pachirisu/phione you miss an energy drop and you used 2 useless basics after you setup. Call Energy is good and almost every deck can use it.
 
revdjweb said:
it's been a long time since i have done probabilities but i think that if you have four of any card in your 60 card deck there is a 51.2% chance that one will be one of the seven cards you draw at the start. of course this says nothing of the odds of also having a basic starter so i can't rightly say what the true odds are of starting with a call energy in your hand: it is specific to each deck, but the odds are not that bad in any case, especially if you consider that you might top deck a call energy instead (8.5% chance if none of them are prized).
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The Binomial Distribution is your friend,

If you have 4 of a card in your deck, the odds of getting 1 in your 7 card hand is 30.8%, the odds of getting two is 6.6%, and the odds of getting three is 0.079% (almost impossible). So the odds of getting 1 or more of that card in your initial hand is 38.3%.

Conversely, if you have 4 of a card in your deck, the odds of getting 1 in your 6 card prize is 28.3%, the odds of having two prized is 5.1%, and the odds of having three prized is 0.048% (almost impossible). So the odds of having 1 or more of that card prized is 34%.

Jeff
 
FutureTrainer said:
The Binomial Distribution is your friend,

If you have 4 of a card in your deck, the odds of getting 1 in your 7 card hand is 30.8%, the odds of getting two is 6.6%, and the odds of getting three is 0.079% (almost impossible). So the odds of getting 1 or more of that card in your initial hand is 38.3%.

Conversely, if you have 4 of a card in your deck, the odds of getting 1 in your 6 card prize is 28.3%, the odds of having two prized is 5.1%, and the odds of having three prized is 0.048% (almost impossible). So the odds of having 1 or more of that card prized is 34%.

Jeff
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thanks for clearing that up for me, i realized that my number was too high but i had not gone back to recalculate. i have been out of math class way to long lol
btw did you calculate the prize odds on a 60 card model or a 53? it really should be based on 53 since you have 7 cards in your hand before putting out prizes.....
 
No you use either 60 or 59 for the deck size when calculating odds. 59 when you are thinking about basics because you have to have one in hand to start.

For mulligan considerations you use a 7 card hand.

For opening hand you use 8 cards (remember to use the one you draw at the begining of your turn) though one has to be a basic.

The probability of having a call energy in your opening hand will be 1-(52/59 *51/58 * 50/57 * 49/56)
 
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NoPoke said:
No you use either 60 or 59 for the deck size when calculating odds. 59 when you are thinking about basics because you have to have one in hand to start.

For mulligan considerations you use a 7 card hand.

For opening hand you use 8 cards (remember to use the one you draw at the begining of your turn) though one has to be a basic.

The odds of having a call energy in your opening hand will be 1-(52/59 *51/58 * 50/57 * 49/56)
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Odds can determine how the game plays out either massively or almost insignificantly. With 60 cards in your deck, only starting with 8 of them and the possibility of the cards you want being prized make it a gamble, no matter what kind of deck you play or what kind of awesome/crappy cards you run.

yoyofsho16 said:
Why? i dont understand the point when about 70% of the time people start with pachirisu...
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Starting with Pachirisu that often involves the luck factor, not a deck mechanic. It's not like Pachirisu is the card you'll always start with when you run it, same goes for Call Energy. They're good if you can have them when you first setup, but otherwise you discard them for cards like TV reporter later in the game. One way or the other you somehow get to use them. Besides, think of the fact that you'd have 5 basics benched if both those cards were there. Once again, you just gotta hope you draw them.

The only thing that makes pachirisu better is the fact that it can be searched by so many trainers in opposition with a special energy card, with the downside of spending a pokemon slot on your field to call for more basics.
 
Pachirisu isn't better, but hey this wouldn't be the first time Pokegym was wrong about an amazing card. I gave my reasons why Call Energy is broken, take it or leave it.
 
Scizor said:
Pachirisu isn't better, but hey this wouldn't be the first time Pokegym was wrong about an amazing card. I gave my reasons why Call Energy is broken, take it or leave it.
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The people on the gym never listen to us when we tell them a card is good. Then it becomes a staple in almost every deck, or becomes a top tier deck. Then they whine and complain about how broken it is.
Blissey, Magmortar, Claydol, GG, you guys never listen to us and go off on a tangent with your bad cards, then you lose. Horribly. Seriously, we aren't trying to rub your faces in this card, we are trying to explain how good it is.
I'm wondering why we even bother....
 
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