Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Colored Borders

Bellawesome said:
you have to flip the deck upside down and bang it onto the table to make the cards fall to the top of the sleeve. I used nidoking sleeves and thats how i became the first person dq'd at US nats '09. Nowadays with all the cardsharking going on, thanks to the few who actually do cheat to create a need for these rules, dont bother taking any of these risks. i lost 3 claydols, 3 roseannes, 4-5 bebes i forget, and multiple other cards to this ruling, and now i wont even let people autograph them for fun. Just dont do it. You gain a "potential advantage" and be dq'd from any tournament now.
For the record, i dont agree with the ruling, i think its really stupid. But it's not our call to make, so just play by the rules so you wont everhave to fight to stay in a tournament you could have a great shot at doing well at, even going 3-0 or watching all your friends with the same deck go top top 128 or 64 with ease. I tried to be a little silly, and whatdya know my first year in masters i get my potential rankings invite taken away, being set back 30 points and being unable to gain.

Just play with normal cards, i hear art is banned on cards as of sometime soon when im in camp.
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Jimmy Ballard was trying to explain this to me while we were playing a game at Nats. We were just making small talk and he was explaining that he shuffles every opponents deck because of people who try to cheat. Then, he used that as an example.

I keep spare sleeves in my breast pocket. Whenever a sleeve even looks remotely marked, I'll swap it out right there in front of the opponent.
I mean.. really.... why CHEAT at POKEMON??

How's that story going to sound? "Yeah, I made top cut at Pokemon Nationals, but I got DQ'd for cheating." I don't even want to repeat the things that people say about guys who sink that low...
 
I think it's probably not the best idea to switch out sleeves one at a time as your sleeves become worn. I would just play out a set of sleeves until they were no longer in good condition, then switch out. That way, all of your sleeves are at the same state of wear, all the time.
 
DragonairMaster8 said:
Let's Say you color all your claydols, roseannes, bebes, rare candies, and gardevoirs borders with red sharpie. While you shuffle, you can bend the cards up just enough to have the borders "pop out" compared to the other cards, and shuffle it in a way that you can know when you are getting close to drawing one of these cards
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Only u would know that james
 
Wait, sorry if this has been asked before, but can I colour in the picture of a card (as long as it's not visible on the border), and, if it doesn't obscure the text, still be legal?
 
you really should NOT be allowed to mark up the edges.

its really easy to remove. get a dry erase marker (black) and a napkin. mark up the part you want to get rid of really well and wipe it hard! lol :lol:
 
Lawman said:
What part of "Don't color on your cards" do you not understand?? Sorry to sound harsh, but WHY risk a DQ a Nats or Worlds bc you want to make your cards "prettier"???? If you want to color, get a coloring book!

Keith
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Uh lets see here, Ben and I asked 6 judges prior to the dang tournament if it was okay, they said OOOHHH YES ITS FINE, so we did and some judge that was in one bad mood, and had a horrible attitude took my deck at nationals and was completely smug.

The way the HJ demonstrated how to pick the cards out is if the open ended part of the sleeves were facing my way, the cards were all the way to the top of the sleeves, in which he had to bang the deck a few times to get that way ( showing that I did not have it that way prior ), still the colors looked all the same!

I find it completely funny that deck checks don't mean anything anymore.
 
OLD_SCHOOL_PLAYER said:
Uh lets see here, Ben and I asked 6 judges prior to the dang tournament if it was okay, they said OOOHHH YES ITS FINE, so we did and some judge that was in one bad mood, and had a horrible attitude took my deck at nationals and was completely smug.

The way the HJ demonstrated how to pick the cards out is if the open ended part of the sleeves were facing my way, the cards were all the way to the top of the sleeves, in which he had to bang the deck a few times to get that way ( showing that I did not have it that way prior ), still the colors looked all the same!

I find it completely funny that deck checks don't mean anything anymore.
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Please review the tourney rules. The deck is the PLAYERS RESPONSIBILITY! Even IF a judge misses something in a deck check and an error comes up later, it is the player's responsibilty.

Now, having said that, I do feel some empathy with you if you had other judges review your deck. This was an issue that came up during Nats and it was determined to make the deck "marked". If you review the rules, there is no intent as part of this rule, just that an advantage can be gained. When more than 1 judge and member(s) of OP brass can cherry pick certain set up cards from a deck AND those cards happen to have a marking on the border (diff color) and this AIDS in locating said cards....that is where the line was crossed. Once it is determined a deck is "marked", at a tier 2 level event, the result is DQ.

There has always been a "marked deck" section in the rules. Defining some of the ways to mark said deck was not as defined. It was like the Supreme Court and pornography, one justice said he couldn't define it, but he knew it when he saw it! Same with marked decks. Now, we are getting a few more instances of this and having more examples to draw on. You had many of the best judges @ Nats and when they see issues like this, along with POP's imput, then tough rulings get made.

Have you ever played agst a player that "flicked" the corner of their deck? I have and I dont play much anymore except at league. The flicking action can expose the borders also. Now add in the fact that red borders ag'st a neutral backdrop of other cards/sleeves and you see where it makes it easier to pick out cards. Trust me when I say that the judges involved in these rulings didnt just make a snap judgment. Many ppl looked over the decks. When multiple ppl can cherry pick out the "right" cards, it is a problem. Now we all know......dont color on the cards! Spread the word!

Keith
 
Also, as an FYI, the Draft version of the 2009-2010 Pokemon TCG floor rules was just posted on the POP boards.
These are not official yet and changes can still happen, but per this non-confidential document....

You will not be permitted to have any cards that have been marked by pen, marker, crayon, etc. in a sanctioned tournament. This would also include autographed cards and colored borders.
 
Yep, I fully support that.

Marking on the cards is fairly stupid. It devalues the card, causes confusion, ect.
Although the autograph thing is pretty neat, when say... your cards are signed by the JPN National Champion, or Yamoto, or Ness. Shame that we can't have that anymore, but this ruling is a pretty important one imo.

I used to play with a set of Celio's Network signed by RuleMaster (he looks just like Celio).
 
wth kinda ruling is that?! how would autographs be marking the card at all? unless the person decided "hey, i'm just gonna mark the whole card up and say it's signed" i don't see what the problem is.

also, does that mean the artists/creators won't be doing autographs anymore? because right now, i'm just seeing it as nintendo being LPC
 
DA RULES said:
14.1.10. Autographed Cards
Autographed cards may be used under the condition that the autograph does not obscure
any game text on the card. In the event that game text is obscured, the player may use the
card as long as he or she has a non-autographed version of the card outside of his or her
deck for reference, or the page of the Pokémon TCG Card-Dex with that card’s text.
Cards with a significant portion of their information obscured may be disallowed at the
Head Judge’s discretion.
Players who intentionally deface their cards with inappropriate images or sayings are
subject to the Unsporting Conduct section of the POP Penalty Guidelines.
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Seems pretty OK
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Hello, "ANYONE CAN CHEAT"....... which is completely correct.. although some of the "extra judges" during the day after nats were not too keen on dealing with stuff like this. I mentioned I was playing a kid with white sleeves and that he had a black sharpie dot on one of his cards ( in the modified tourny). The judge said they would look at his deck and never did.. I was upset because that one card marked was a rare candy.. so it just goes to show you anyone can you just have to look out for it , and also in one of my matches in swiss during nats someone played 2 supporters in one turn vs me they discarded there first bebes then Night maintenanced then used another bebes . now i know it was my fault for not calling a judge ,but for someone to have the audacity to do that and then beat me because of it and feel good about a win like that? idk just sour grapes I guess.
 
PokeDaddy said:
The Seniors Judging Staff (which I was not one of) did an OUTSTANDING job at this year's Nats. Card sleeves become worn and cuffed and may I dare say:wink:, marked during the course of the event. For those of you who beat the tar out of your cards, you should resleeve every 3 or so rounds. Sounds silly and cost too much money? It's better than the alternative. I am talking here as a parent whose son had to resleeve this year at Nats, Seniors, T32.

Marked cards are problematic for ALL involved. If you are going to worlds, resleeve every 3 rounds. Just tell a judge before hand. And, just don't resleeve one or two cards, do them all. The brand new sleeves will stand out against the "used" sleeves and that too could be a pattern of marking.

Regards
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This is true, and is good advice. I learned this the hard way by getting a prize loss against your son ;)
Resleeving a lot WILL take care of issues that may come up. Being careful with your sleeves will also help. I have a terrible habit of CONSTANTLY flipping my cards around in my hand very quickly, which causes a lot of wear, and I know some other people have this habit, also.
I was happy that they made a lot of people resleeve, though. It definitely is the smarter move to take care of people who actually do mark their sleeves. :|
 
I find it funny that resleeving is an issue. I never played Pokemon enough to play in Nats or Worlds, but I have played in high end Magic events. I resleeve with new sleeves every round, and in some events thats required. But, I also play with some cards that I draw on, and a select few are colored to the point where just the name is exposed, and I never heard anything about this edge marking nonsense. And to be honest, how often is your deck facing you so that the top of the sleeves is facing you, allowing you to do something like this?

This seems silly.
 
I am really going to miss my decorated energies. Which I was very careful NOT to color the borders on. It's a shame a few people had to ruin things for everyone.
 
If sleeves from general play use could be considered marked after 4-5 rounds, should I resleeve on my own after round 4 at worlds?

Sounds pretty extreme.
 
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