99% of the time when "deck check" is used, I am more referencing the idea of a "sleeve check".
A deck check involves the list, the deck, and the sleeves. You are correct in saying that it is a sleeve check. Deck check is simply the common place term used to cover both checking a player's deck, and sleeves and
deck list. The sleeve issue is 10x more relevant. They also require significantly less effort to check than a full deck list. Also, is there an excuse for no deck checks prior to top 32?
What are you talking about Chris? There were deck checks throughout the Swiss rounds. Maybe the "excuse" was that you didn't have your deck checked. Poor portrayal of reality, again.
Now, to get to the...touchier..subject. I'm not calling the judges lazy. I know a great number of very hard working judges. I'll use Pokemom as an example: Me and her haven't seen...eye to eye, so to speak, for the better part of a decade now, but I see her at every event she's staffing working her rear off to make sure the event goes smoothly. We may have personal issues, but from a professional standpoint, she does an unbelievably good job, and I put full faith in her performance. Do I have a "sick twisted etc " view of judging, according to one of the posts?
Why are you attacking/demeaning so many people? Do not call any one of us judges lazy. Your perception of what goes on is distorted, twisted, and not factual. Quite frankly, if the intent of your posting is to anger a bunch of folks, you have done quite a good job. The Staff at Nats and Worlds does not need to defend itself to you or anyone else unless directed so by PUI.
Not once did I say sick. I do stand by my distorted, twisted, and not factual. No. I have what I call an honest, players view of what happens. I'm not saying I am 100% correct, and not biased, but I'm positive there isn't a single unbiased stance in this debate/argument. Even the best judge int he game is going to slant their opinion in that direction.
What do you mean Chris? Slant in what direction?
What I AM saying is, and what I originally said, was that refusing
(were you refused Chris? Did you ask for one? Was it a sleeve check? I know Gino came up to me and asked for a sleeve check before the event. I was working with a Japanese Junior and suggested he go see a Masters judge. That is not refusal, that is enabling.) to do deck checks ( assuming a majority, or at least a sufficient amount of, players want them seems ) only because " it is more work for the judges " IS lazy.
I know I didn't say this but I will say, by default, it is more work. Work we would gladly do if directed by PUI. Your gripe is with the Tournament Organizers, not the Judges. And there was a poster who had used that as their rationale. To construe that as me making the blanket statement " the judges of this game are lazy " is quite the misinterpretation. I'll assume that a good number of people who jumped all over the chance to twist that aren't exactly fond of me in the first place.
Wrong. I don't care either way about you. You play Pokemon, I judge. I know there a number of people involved in this game who don't like me, just as I'll admit to saying there are those I am not too fond of either.
In baseball, it is the player's responsibility to NOT TAKE STEROIDS. But they still test for them to uphold the integrity of the competition. Boxers have to weigh in. Having played since 1998, I have filled out an incorrect deck list ONCE. It was caught in top 16 of a regional. I have been to countless events and have only made one error ever ( it gave me a Game Loss and my 1-1 Steelix EX line was replaced with 2 water energy, causing me to the "second" game of the match ). Most players will be pretty accurate, but sometimes mistakes do occur.
And you point is.... That is how it is supposed to be. Deck and Decklist matching.
Another point addressed was the issue of people filling out deck lists last minute. 90% of the time, I wait until the last minute possible in order to get a proper analysis of the metagame at the tournament. On my World's deck list, I wrote down both a Nidoqueen and a Dusknoir line on my sheet, and waited until the collector was about 3 people away from me to finally make my decision. While this is an extreme example, a great number of players go to bed the night before a tournament not knowing what deck they are using, yet alone an exact list. The players are not "lazy" with their deck forms, they are being cautious with deck choices.
In regards to there being no "meat" to this discussion outside of the deck check debate? This is what I find to be HIGHLY IRONIC. The "deck check argument" came from my topic of...WAIT FOR IT...me COMPLIMENTING THE JUDGE TEAM on how well Worlds was handled this year. Yet that gets overlooked entirely to jump all over my argument that its "lazy" to not do deck checks without any reasoning besides " its more work".
You need to talk to Mr. Schwimmer. BESIDES the fact that people are picking and choosing what I say rather aggressively,
No chris, it is cause and effect, you say stuff that is out of line and over the top, you are going to get a response commensurate with your input. I made this thread to point out what I liked and/or didn't like about the event. I left it open ended in order for people to voice their opinions on THEIR thoughts, not simply agree/disagree with what I had posted. Far be it from what some are interpreting it as, this is not a "Chris attacks the judges because hes an ungrateful
I deleted you reference to profanity so you wouldn't get an infraction/warning" thread.
