Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

Anatomy of a Fake Pokémon Card

Hi, new to the forum:

I have two prerelease dark Gyarados and noticed the one has a lighter back. However, the fronts are identical. Same foil design, no see-through, etc. My original one is unplayed as the new new one seems to have been in a deck.

Another thing; I have three fossil Zapdos: Two shiny, one non-holo. One shiny has the base2 holofoil and the other is the standard fossil. However, I did realize I got the Thunderstorm gift box way back when, which has artwork similar to that of base2 boosters and such. I'm thinking this was a tie-in of sorts.


How legimiate are base booster boxes anymore? I just am looking to get the original three expansions and base complete. No need for first editions or shadowless, though it would be sweet. And the original WTC Promos 1-54. These were the sets I was into as a kid and I now have the disposable income to hunt stuff down.

Thanks for any tips.
 
Sounds like just a print variation o the Dark Gyardos.
Hard to fake the right foil.

The Base 2 holofoil Zapdos is from the Thuderstorm gift set, you guessed correctly.
The Fossil rares came in holo and non holo versions, but the nonholo should have a different set number.

Prices on old set boxes seem to have risen a bit over what they used to be.
Expect to pay about $100 per box.
 
Sounds like just a print variation o the Dark Gyardos.
Hard to fake the right foil.

The Base 2 holofoil Zapdos is from the Thuderstorm gift set, you guessed correctly.
The Fossil rares came in holo and non holo versions, but the nonholo should have a different set number.

Prices on old set boxes seem to have risen a bit over what they used to be.
Expect to pay about $100 per box.

Cool, what I thought. Seller was a good guy so I wasn't suspicious, more curious.

I don't mind the prices, really. Cheaper than buying crappy grab-bags with stuff I already have and buying all individually.

*EDIT*

Was browsing a flea market today ;_; and stumbled upon some oddballs. One was a Dewgong from the base set with the reverse holo, but the holo looked like fireworks or like sunbursts. Had a weird symbol for the set. There was also a couple Charizards this way. Seller is a known guy in the card business around here, and has been there for years long before Pokemon was even around. I can't find anything on them.

Also a Jirachi with the moves 'One Desire" and "Doom Desire". One Desire does not have a recognized energy sumbol, but looks like a fuzzy circle. Everything on it checks out compared to a legitimate card from a new series.
 
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Was browsing a flea market today ;_; and stumbled upon some oddballs. One was a Dewgong from the base set with the reverse holo, but the holo looked like fireworks or like sunbursts. Had a weird symbol for the set. There was also a couple Charizards this way. Seller is a known guy in the card business around here, and has been there for years long before Pokemon was even around. I can't find anything on them.
Those are from Legendary Collection.
The symbol is a medal hanging from a ribbon.

Also a Jirachi with the moves 'One Desire" and "Doom Desire". One Desire does not have a recognized energy sumbol, but looks like a fuzzy circle. Everything on it checks out compared to a legitimate card from a new series.

That's a real card. There are dozens of sets of Pokemon cards. You can search among them here:
http://pokegym.net/tower/
To look for older sets, switch to Unlimited here: http://pokegym.net/tower/uindex.html
To make it easier to search for a specific card, type a card name in the box in the upper left.
Type in Jirachi, hit enter, and you will see 7 Jirachi links and a Jirachi ex card.
Check them out and you'll find your card.
 
Those are from Legendary Collection.
The symbol is a medal hanging from a ribbon.



That's a real card. There are dozens of sets of Pokemon cards. You can search among them here:
http://pokegym.net/tower/
To look for older sets, switch to Unlimited here: http://pokegym.net/tower/uindex.html
To make it easier to search for a specific card, type a card name in the box in the upper left.
Type in Jirachi, hit enter, and you will see 7 Jirachi links and a Jirachi ex card.
Check them out and you'll find your card.

Ah, cool. Thanks a bunch for the links. I've been looking for good lists and advice. I've never had to feel worried about cards, but those threw me for a loop lol.

Great site and thanks for the help. I'll lurk for awhile.
 
My cousin just traded one of his cards for a fake charzard. He should of known it was obvious it was fake. This card had 300 hp and some words were in spanish and others not. Haha
 
of course i find this thread after i buy 2 pokemon booster boxes
check these out
im guessing they are fake?
what should i do?
i already bought them but havent payed

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...843846&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_500wt_1154

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...348462&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT#ht_500wt_1154

Since you won the bids on ebay, you are obligated to pay for them. However, anytime the wrap around the box lacks the white pokeballs, they are not factory sealed, and most likely fake. I would try sending the seller a message, saying you dont want to pay for fake cards. It would be your best bet
 
well yea i messaged him before i posted he told me to tell him if i dont want the items haha
i guess he knows

haha i think your right. yeah always look for the white pokeballs, and never order from china. ever. I learned that the hard way :(
 
I'd be very concerned about those boxes.
I've seen the occasional real box that was missing the pokeballs on the plastic.
I got a few of them in my shipment of HGSS boxes for my prerelease events.
But the fact that one seller has boxes from different sets, both missing the pokeball wrapping... not a good sign.
 
I just got some cards that I bought. But, I got some "reagular" cards (from old sets), and a brighter version of them.
For example, I got a picture og two Squirtle from Base Sat cards, that I got; The left is "normal", but the card on the right, is brighter. I think that the brighter one is fake or a shadowless. What do you think?
http://img185.imageshack.us/i/realsquirtle1.jpg
http://img831.imageshack.us/i/squirtle1.jpg
http://img340.imageshack.us/i/realsquirtle2.jpg
http://img530.imageshack.us/i/squirtle2.jpg
 
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No. All reverse foil Dialga from one set have that error.
A misprint is still a card made by the Pokemon company.
Fakes or counterfeits are made by other people.
 
I'm very new to pokemon but already got burned on my first large purchase of booster boxes. Just FYI that the fakes I purchased had the white pokeballs on the outer wrapping. It's something I specifically asked for before buying and they sent pictures with the white logo so I thought it was legitimate.

It wasn't until I opened the actual box and a loose palkia holo dropped out that I got worried. Going through my credit card to hopefully get my money back...
 
About a week ago I had posted some Fakes here that I had received from childern attending the league. I offer to give them real cards in exchange for the fakes so they do not have to worry about which cards they have are real.
This is a base 1 Dugtrio: Text boxes are clearly visible.
[gal=50760]Dugtrio[/gal]

This fake GE Beedrill has incorrect energy attack costs:
[gal=50750]Beedrill[/gal]

This fake Cyclone energy has no set or set number listed, note that there is an ' over the e in Pokemon:
[gal=50757]Cyclone Energy[/gal]

Side by side comparison (Left is fake)
[gal=50759]Darkrai[/gal]
[gal=50746].[/gal]

Multiple flags that are raised: incorrect spelling, incorrect attack costs, no ' over the e, etc.
[gal=50752].[/gal]

More Fakes:
[gal=50743].[/gal]
[gal=50749].[/gal]
[gal=50747].[/gal]


Inside a fake. It appears to me that they start off with cardboard or something like it then they simply create a cheap sticker and place it on top off that:
[gal=50753].[/gal]

The county fair started where I live and already I have heard reports that vendors are selling the fakes.
 
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K of M: Thanks for those.
Just a note for future reference: you can show an image of picture loaded into our gallery by using the gallery tags.

For example, {gal=xxx]xxx picture[/gal] would show the picture of "xxx" that is image number xxx in our gallery.
You would use all "square" brackets, not the fancy ones.

Editing your post to show the pics.
 
While looking up info on the TCG (because I have been out of it for while) I came across this thread. Because I have been a very adimate collector of Pkmn cards, I became quite saddened to find out that several booster packs that I purchased (from a cheap store at a local mall no less) appear to me to be fakes according to certain details described in this thread. I still have the original booster pack wrappings from the cards too and I had bought them around 6 months or so ago. The store I bought them from had them for 25c each the first time then 33c each and then a while after they ceased to have them in their store, but they used to have a lot of them, boxes full of them.

The reasons I believe these cards of mine to be fake are the following:

1> The blob on the back is solid blue and not detailed like my genuine cards
2> The foil cards have either gold borders or appear to have some sort of "foil" material overtop of a printed on foil image (like shown in the OP with the Camerupt card)
3> The fonts in the attack area are different (Although, the fonts on my cards are different than even the ones shown here. The Darkrai holo card on this page that someone posted, I have that card, but it doesn't look like either of the two images posted when you look at the fonts.)
4> The non-holo cards I can see right through them, even though I can't see through the holos.
5> Many of the cards feel like they are thinner or made on a cheaper, thinner material.
6> Some of the card images appear crooked or tilted (Although not all, but especially some of the holos).

7> (I'm not sure if this was a sure-fire indication or not, but...) The boosters each contained a seemingly inordinate and large amount of rare cards. I mean I would get at least 2-3 in every booster. Which seemed unusual. (Granted, I had not been "in the game" so to speak for a really long time back when I got these cards so I wasn't familiar with all of the changes made since the old days, but now it seems these were just fakes to me)

The reasons I think it's hard to tell if my cards are fake are:

1> Pokémon is spelled with an "é" in every location from what I can tell.
2> The energy symbols are all normal size.
3> The border on the back of the cards is definitive and not lighter and faded looking.

I thought this information may be useful to someone.

If you want to see pics of some of the cards I could try to scan some and post them later so you can really see these things. I just can't believe that they are fake, mainly because I never knew that people have been making fakes and selling them in fake packagings too! I just never would have imagined that a Pokémon card straight from a booster would've been fake. I mean, I've seen fakes back in the old days but they seemed different than these ones today. This thread has a lot of good info that I think people need to know. I feel bad when looking at that post above with all of the cards and all of the kids who are going around sporting fakes and not knowing it.

I've checked a bunch of other cards of mine that I have on hand too and they all check out to be 100% genuine, but of course they come from more reliable sources, lol. Although, from what I can tell, all of the cards that I've ever bought off ebay have been completely genuine, so I guess that's good. <They were mostly older cards and many of them were promos and rares with special markings and foil stamps and such that were not the kinds of things that people really fake or could easily fake, so I think it's safer when buying those kinds of odd cards online, just be sure to double-check everything when buying online, I was also very cautious too so that always helps.

---------- Post added 09/08/2010 at 11:03 PM ----------

About a week ago I had posted some Fakes here that I had received from childern attending the league. I offer to give them real cards in exchange for the fakes so they do not have to worry about which cards they have are real.
This is a base 1 Dugtrio: Text boxes are clearly visible.
[gal=50760]Dugtrio[/gal]

This is the only image I do not quite see how it is fake (it might be better with a genuine next to it for comparison), but to me it appears to be a genuine, albeit in quite poor condition, shadowless Dugtrio from the base set?

Edit-
I see a white space behind the second attack cost that lines straight up with the side of the attack information, but Idk that that is a signature of a fake or just a signature of the original quality found in the shadowless cards. I mean the shadowless base set pikachu was notorious for the attack information being awkwardly spread out on the card much like this one where the 70 is uneven, and everything else about the card appears that it is a shadowless, imo.

Edit2- Well leave it to me to prove me wrong, lol. Here is a pic of a genuine shadowless Dugtrio:

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So it would appear that one above is a fake after all, now I feel like I'm losing my touch. I thought was pretty good when it came to the older cards :C.
 
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