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BR Donk Report Thread

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Out of all the Battle Roads I went to I didn't really DONK or get DONKed. To tell you the truth things where just the way they have always been with the occasional DONK every now and then. I didn't see one person playing SableDONK. I saw decks like Sablelock and Chenlock but not SableDONK.

I know a lot of people prefer the rotation but I don't. I enjoy our current format and really think the idea of a rotation a month before Nationals in the US is dumb... The company hasn't done this before to my knowledge why start now? This though of a rotation before nats is sooo bad because so many people are scared and are testing for HGGS on and there may not be a rotation. Mean while if they rotate or not we have less than a month to actually test for the format that we are going to have or nats and Worlds.

I agree with the post above! If your gunna try something new try banning cards. Like for instance Sableye. I would rather loose one card than a bunch of sets.
 
As for answering Bittyboy52 question. They have done it before in 2003 (I believe) they banned I believe 15 sets. They also the 2000/2001 before did several weird things from Prop 15 (15 Trainers) to making it where only cards from Team Rocket through Base Set 2 and the Neo Sets where allowed to be played. There was alot back in the day that they did where the player wasn't concerned but they did it to make the game more fun. Which they did.
 
I played nats yesterday and only made topcup because when I played against a father in round 3 Im sure he couldve donked me (uxie donk) but decided not to because he was just playing for fun and didnt want to ruin my chances. He said he had a bad hand and couldnt do anything but he didnt want me to see his hand so I kinda think he had it. Take that for whatever you want...
 
Won a BR w/ Sableye + Gyarados w/ 4 Sp Darks.

Won 1st 4 w/ Sableye, Lost R5. T4 I Donk Sableye, Lost G2, Won G3.
Finals, My Opp Donks me w/ Sableye, I return the favor G2 and I win G3

Also had a junior player cry (new to the tournament scene) after he lost last round to a senior (2 seniors 6 juniors) after he lost to a Sabledonk. Aren't BRs suppose to attract newer younger players to the tournament scene with a relaxed atmosphere?

I'm pretty sure TPCI wouldn't a crying child on a photo in there World Championship Booklet after they lose to a Sableye over and over again.
 
Went to Charleston, SC for a BR. It was only a top 2 cut, 4 rounds. I play Gyarados for it.

Game 1 - I don't start Sableye, but, I go first and donk via Gyarados. Guy doesn't even get a turn.
Game 2 - Get donked despite having 3 pokemon in play, all without getting a turn.

I dropped after having a bad round 3. I must sound like a broken record right now, but, TPCi, change the format. This is nothing short of ridiculous.
 
InnoceNt said:
Played in two BRs and didnt get donked in any. Tournies are really nice when there's no Sableye Donk. I wish we could just ban it and not rotate.
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You also played modified theme decks all day Vance. The guy I played in Top 2 donked all day and I donked Round 1 and Game 2 in Top 2.
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PokeMedic said:
Hate the player, not the game.
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That's the wrong attitude to take when what's coming up is a tournament with ~1000 players, many of whom will run Sableye if the option exists. We need a new format in order to preserve US Nationals' reputation as the biggest and best tournament of the season, not a series of coin flips.
 
I'm not going to disagree that it spoils things. Most of what I've heard from people playing these decks though is that they've wanted to prove a point -and that in itself seems to have actually made Sabledonk the problem that it is. People are playing it to make it look bad, not to do with it what terrible deeds it was imagined to do. I think people are just as concerned about having to play against the current meta decks as they are a Sabledonk -maybe even more. If Sabeldonk goes, so does the current meta, making a lot of people happy in the process, but not because of Sabledonk. It's because the entire field will be level on a somewhat short notice meaning that the decks that were so powerful, played by players that were more or less good players, now are on the bottom rungs like everyone else. This is just a chance to kill the current format quick before it would normally change.
 
I got donked once by a Luxchomp/Sableye deck, but all of the other four matches in the Battle Road I played today were legitimate games. Two fairly easy wins and two insufficient rally-from-behind losses.

I must be fairly lucky, because today's donk loss was my first loss by donk in a tournament since States 2006, even with the crazy formats the last few years being donk-prone.
 
PokeMedic said:
I'm not going to disagree that it spoils things. Most of what I've heard from people playing these decks though is that they've wanted to prove a point -and that in itself seems to have actually made Sabledonk the problem that it is. People are playing it to make it look bad, not to do with it what terrible deeds it was imagined to do. I think people are just as concerned about having to play against the current meta decks as they are a Sabledonk -maybe even more. If Sabeldonk goes, so does the current meta, making a lot of people happy in the process, but not because of Sabledonk. It's because the entire field will be level on a somewhat short notice meaning that the decks that were so powerful, played by players that were more or less good players, now are on the bottom rungs like everyone else. This is just a chance to kill the current format quick before it would normally change.
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It's the good players who actually benefit from a change in the format.

The mediocre and below average players who have been picking up wins with donk decks and autopilot builds will get a nasty shock in HGSS-on.

If everyone starts from the same point in HGSS-on, you'll see the better players win.
 
Wasn't involved in this donk. One person started with whatever with a single Retreat Cost. Collector'd for Uxie, Unown Q, retreated with Q, attached Energy to Uxie and Psychic Restored for the game. Other person had a single Solosis.

dmaster out.
 
baby mario said:
It's the good players who actually benefit from a change in the format.

The mediocre and below average players who have been picking up wins with donk decks and autopilot builds will get a nasty shock in HGSS-on.

If everyone starts from the same point in HGSS-on, you'll see the better players win.
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Don't try and make it sound like only mediocre players are playing sable donk. I have seen a lot of higher caliber players playing it. They are getting just as many wins with it as mediocre players.
 
evil psyduck said:
Don't try and make it sound like only mediocre players are playing sable donk. I have seen a lot of higher caliber players playing it. They are getting just as many wins with it as mediocre players.
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I think Baby Mario is trying to get at that why keep a format where the bad players could take nationals all together by literally being lucky and there is next to nothing that their opponents could do if they started sableye enough. You could theoretically win the ENTIRE US National championship without a SINGLE opponent getting a turn. Not even spiritomb could withstand it if the player ran regice. Just a thought, if not a scary one.
 
People not to stop acting like everything happening is a donk. I've had a couple donks, but I've had many great games as well. The format is fairly balanced.
 
The thing is Sabledonk will beat most decks that don't run abnormally high HP basics (coughreshiandzekcough). So, with the chance that Sableye will be out there, and it will be if there is no rotation, it forces players to run a) an abnormally and ridiculously high amount of basics or b) reshiram and zekrom. This messes with consistency and basically means our format is reduced to donkers and donkproofs. I've also seen some people posting about just bannig Sableye. The thing with that is it will not fix anything. In this thread some people have been talking about donking with Kingdra, Gyarados, etc. All you need T1 is a karp, a 'dos, a bts, a collector, and a dice roll favoring you. If it doesn't your opponent might have it. Bye bye sabledonk, hello G-dos, Donphan, Kingdra, etc, etc donk. So now you might be thinking if BTS goes away, that'd fix it. If BTS goes away, just think about how overpowered sp, and even worse Arceus would become! T1 six energies to everything, or T2 sniping/ bringing-up benched pokemon that need to evolve? Remember, candy got the errata. Honestly, there is no perfect solution. However, the best, most fault-proof way would be a full on rotation. It all just gets down to this: MD- Arceus just doesn't suit this format's rules. HGSS-on? YES!
 
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