hehe well i have never had that experience, cuz in my local league in mexico, i mean i can leave my stuff ANYWERE and my binder can be bouncing around the whole area, and i have never had anything stolen. I am the player that has more time playing in that community, and i trust them all as they trust me. Pfft, it theft happens in local leagues and tourneys, thats sad... We are supposed to be a nice cool pokemon family or community locally.
Nationals Crime Spree
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You honestly just gave me an idea for nats next year.
I left my deckbox with my RH magneboar deck at nationals on a table. Luckily my friend was sitting at the same table and gave it back.
What really gets me is, one time, I found someone trying to steal from my backpack while I was carrying it! I wear my backpack in front from now-on.
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Benzo
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I will be wearing a Team Rocket shirt ( if I make it to worlds ) - Black with just the [R] logo-
please be aware that I am only going to be there to do one thing: take the title of first place in the VGC.
I might be the only person there who has a body gaurd there who will be carrying a gray briefcase that is handcuffed to his wrist which encloses my DS in, but, other then that-
I just keep my belongings to a minimum and keep common sence in mind in public events.
please be aware that I am only going to be there to do one thing: take the title of first place in the VGC.
I might be the only person there who has a body gaurd there who will be carrying a gray briefcase that is handcuffed to his wrist which encloses my DS in, but, other then that-
I just keep my belongings to a minimum and keep common sence in mind in public events.
Absoltrainer
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I'm EXTREMELY cautious with my stuff. It always stays in a backpack unless in use and when I'm playing the backpack goes between my legs. I always count my deck and dice after every match (more for accidential theft due to similar dice or sleeves) and always makes sure I have everything after every match. Also whenever I move, even just a couple of seats over, I always take my stuff with me. If you keep it in your sight at all times (or even just touching you, and example, have your hand or knee touching it), you can USUALLY keep it all safe. Of course as someone stated, you could drop a dice, or a card, and as you look down for a second, you could lose something.
Miamisportsfan45
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At events like these, there really should be a poster or some kind of awareness for everyone to be alert. Even just a simple statement prior to the tournaments or an announcement would be appreciable.
In the free play area Thursday night, I decided to bling out my deck, so I started to unsleeve. Once I unsleeved my 2 Cleffa, I dropped the sleeves, bent down to pick them up, and the Cleffa were gone. all my deck boxes filled with decks, my binders, and all of the holo cards were still there. Just the 2 Cleffa I set aside were gone.
this. I have always dreamed about doing just this.
Absoltrainer
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Let me ask a serious question here.
If I'm at an event, let's say Nats or Worlds, and someone literally picks up my deck box and bolts for it. Would my running after him, and tackling him, or grabbing him, or some other way physically stopping him get me in trouble with Pokémon?
We're assuming I don't have time to report him, and he isn't going to let me talk to him. I witness him take my stuff and run. I take him down, subdue him and get my stuff back, or I let him get away.
Alternatively, he takes my stuff, I go talk to him, he says some profanity to me and walks away, am I in the right to take back my stuff?
Because obviously fighting is never the answer, and I'm not promoting fighting or violence but at the same time, if I walk away and tell a judge, "hey that guy took my stuff" how can I prove it? How can the judge in all honesty believe me over the other person. What’s to prove I'm not some guy trying to steal from another person by claiming something is mine. All the while he might just get away and I may never see him again.
Another situation, I yell thief, or somehow get a judge's attention as I bolt after him. Then take him down.
Because in all seriousness, if I watch someone steal from me, I won't walk away to report it while he gets away, and I'm sure as hell going to get my stuff back.
Also if he’s subdued, then he can then be handed over to the judges/security/official for them to deal with.
How would Pokémon rule this situation? Or would it be a very specific case-by-case basis? Food for thought.
If I'm at an event, let's say Nats or Worlds, and someone literally picks up my deck box and bolts for it. Would my running after him, and tackling him, or grabbing him, or some other way physically stopping him get me in trouble with Pokémon?
We're assuming I don't have time to report him, and he isn't going to let me talk to him. I witness him take my stuff and run. I take him down, subdue him and get my stuff back, or I let him get away.
Alternatively, he takes my stuff, I go talk to him, he says some profanity to me and walks away, am I in the right to take back my stuff?
Because obviously fighting is never the answer, and I'm not promoting fighting or violence but at the same time, if I walk away and tell a judge, "hey that guy took my stuff" how can I prove it? How can the judge in all honesty believe me over the other person. What’s to prove I'm not some guy trying to steal from another person by claiming something is mine. All the while he might just get away and I may never see him again.
Another situation, I yell thief, or somehow get a judge's attention as I bolt after him. Then take him down.
Because in all seriousness, if I watch someone steal from me, I won't walk away to report it while he gets away, and I'm sure as hell going to get my stuff back.
Also if he’s subdued, then he can then be handed over to the judges/security/official for them to deal with.
How would Pokémon rule this situation? Or would it be a very specific case-by-case basis? Food for thought.
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I still remember many years ago down here in FL it was around the time neo genesis was fresh. Big pokemon convention across the street from the Ft Lauderdale Art Institue. I went with a couple of friends, we show up and meet up with a friend of ours that was already there he was frantically panicking so we were like what's up? Turns out his whole bag ( Deck included ) got swiped.. Just after he turned in his deck list to the judge.. So immediately we grabbed his deck list and started looking around to trade people for the cards to build his deck back up. When the people we were trying to trade with found out why we were doing this, most if not all of them gave us any cards they could to help him. To this day this moment still sends chills up my spine, it's good to know that are still good people out there.
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While I do in no way condone the use of violence. If I see someone take something of mine, and I'm 100% sure it's mine. I have zero problem and honestly don't give a darn if pokemon has a problem with it. I will persue, and use what ever force is deemed necessary to get my item(s) back. If that means tackling said person to the ground, so be it.
If someone feels that they are entitled to take what is not theirs, then they have zero rights as far as I'm concerned. I really, highly doubt you would get in trouble from the event. As long as you didn't take it too far, keep in mind I'm talking about using enough force to subdue a person. Nothing more.
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While I do in no way condone the use of violence. If I see someone take something of mine, and I'm 100% sure it's mine. I have zero problem and honestly don't give a darn if pokemon has a problem with it. I will persue, and use what ever force is deemed necessary to get my item(s) back. If that means tackling said person to the ground, so be it.
If someone feels that they are entitled to take what is not theirs, then they have zero rights as far as I'm concerned. I really, highly doubt you would get in trouble from the event. As long as you didn't take it too far, keep in mind I'm talking about using enough force to subdue a person. Nothing more.
Miamisportsfan45
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I think that a petition for awareness is necessary, especially for the younger players. If a petition happens to go on, let me know. I'll gladly sign in.
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pokeMATHter
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Our first Nationals (2004) we were sitting around waiting for the tournament to start. I see a guy come around the end of the table across the isle with a box of Team Aqua/Team Magma and stash it in his bag. It stood out to me because we had a spare box at home, and I though we should have brought it to sell. Not 2 minutes later, this guy starts panicking: Where is my box? Where is my box? This went on for about 15/20 minutes, with the thief playing dumb. I flag down a judge and tell him my story who in turn invites Dave Schwimmer over to talk to me. I report what I saw, and Dave goes over to the guy with the bag and asks if he can look inside. Sure enough, right there on top is the box. The guy is like "It was just a joke." "I was going to give it back." Nice try, but it had been at least 30 minutes since the box was reported stolen. A little too long to be a punch line. Five minutes later event security is escorting the guy out of Origins. See ya buddy! We don't need players like that in Organized Play!
Must be because of all those YGO Players coming over. Shame
I came over from Yu-Gi-Oh myself. When I was playing cards were stolen a lot. One store that i used to play in actually stopped hosting YGO tournament due to multiple decks being stolen within a 2 week span. I will never understand why players resort to stealing cards from people who either bought them or traded their asses to get the cards they want. Its just sad to be honest
Miamisportsfan45
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Isn't it obvious? They're either not intelligent, just like feeling like a BA, or don't have the money and saw an opportunity to either make some money or help themselves get what they want instantly. Or any combination of these.
Viva piñata
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I stopped taking yugioh seriously after a 300 $ card was stolen from me nearly right in my face =[ But in pokemon ive had team mates kick me off there team and take 95% of my cards which made me play yugioh more until the 300$ card was taken so ive had my rough moments with theft =[
Scipio
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I hear ya there. I once ran a series of Yugioh tournaments myself...which got ended roughly when the prize money + several store laptops were swiped. Turns out it weren't players who did so but still...
The laws of the state are more important then the rules of an organization. Simply put, theft is very serious you have the right to take harsh action when your property is being taken from you. What you described sounds like the correct amount of violence to get your stuff back. If Pokemon frown upon it who cares, you have morals right, and you have the right to not be robbed or have things taken from you.
I'll tell you one thing telling a judge dose nothing really, unless you saw the guy take your stuff and have a witness. Most likely too late anyway.
I know this is going to sound a bit thuggee bit if someone is going to steal your stuff make them regret it at least. It also shows you are not going to be taken for a chomp, if more people do this I bet there would be a lot less theft.
I'm also pretty sure you can hold people down and call the police, even after a crime from a long time ago where the criminal got away. If you guys take it more seriously, maybe people will think about it.
And now in general, just don't leave stuff about, don't fan cards oput and leave rare ones out of stacks and binders, it is like advertising.
dark wobbuffet
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the problem must be less bad here in the U.K, I have never had anything stolen and dont know anyone who has.
Swordfish1989
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Sounds like you got one of the nicer areas :X
YGO was bad when it came to thefts.. it was the only TCG where I got ripped trading online. At a league once I even had a $100 card stolen from me =/ Our current Pokemon league takes place at the same time as YGO, and the only times we've had theft were when the YGO players were in the same playing area.. sad, but true.
I wonder why YGO seems to attract these kind of people?
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