Pikamaster
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Ok, let's resume, then.
Resume D1. D1 Ends Saturday, December 8th at 11:59 PM EST
Resume D1. D1 Ends Saturday, December 8th at 11:59 PM EST
One of them is most likely a wolf. A huge loss though because they are all good.
Unvote: Eclipse
Vote: ProHawk
tbh I have been planning the eclipse vote since I saw him/her sign up and I just couldn't resist the IDE joke.
Firstly, if you can figure out the number of wolves early, that's good. We (wolves that is) won XVIIA because we fooled the town into thinking there were fewer wolves than there were and they were unprepraed for LyLo. I don't think we should be discussing it at length, but giving it some attention is definitely called for.
Secondly, ProHawk, consider my vote a stick pointed in your direction until you come back and do something concrete. There are loads of "I don't have time to post but I'll post anyway to not look suspicious" posts going on right now, and I hate all of them, but yours in particular sets me off. "I'm going to criticise other players and then hide behind the excuse of not having time so I don't have to explain myself!" Gross man. Gross.
What kind of circumstances though? Sorry there must be some sort of role that I'am unaware of for a townie.
Activity post woo!
Oh wait, you guys want me to contribute huh. *sigh* Fine.
Okay first of all school excuses blah blah blah etc. etc.
Okay! Now that that's out of the way, let's begin a real post!
Vote: Vablakes
My case? He was role fishing. If you are a power role and say what roles you think might be a game, you might end up slipping your own role, which is not what we want.
Speaking of power roles, I want to say something REALLY important. Do not, and I repeat, do not claim unless it is clear that you will be lynched if you do not. (I.E. Don't claim just because someone is voting for you. Only claim if the lynchhammer is definitely coming down on you)
Now, I'd like to put out some important advice for all town players, regardless of role:
{insert 12 points that could be read in the compendium here}
I agree with this, kinda. Right now, I have no information, except my role PM. I suspect the same is true of most of the town (some may have very limited other information) and most/all of the independents. Only the mafia have any real information, and that's whatever pregame planning they've done, and each other's names. So right now, we really don't have much to do except for RVS type posting (that's Random Voting Stage for those who don't know), but I'm pleased to see people very quickly pushing towards more serious discussion. The faster we start dissecting posts, the better. But as we get onto said serious discussion, I think it's worthwhile making sure each post adds content, as opposed to just posting to go 'hey guys I've read stuff what's going on?'
^This post is the most scummy by far.
Vote: Human Destroyer
Reason:
Opportunistic jump on a new player.
Attempt to look pro-town by offering a host of tips.
One of them is most likely a wolf. A huge loss though because they are all good.
What I meant by "What kind of roles do we expect to see" is what are there usually in a large game? I'm not looking for someone to say "Hey! I'm (insert role here)!".
Noted: asking what roles we expect to see=bad.
Sorry for being a noob guys, last time I'll do that.
Anyhow, I'm not going to use RVS yet. I'm gonna wait for now.
^This post is the most scummy by far.
Vote: Human Destroyer
Reason:
Opportunistic jump on a new player.
Attempt to look pro-town by offering a host of tips.
Side-Note: I agree with Thunderjolt and Tables Re: Replacements. Its just as much a shot in the dark lynching from the pool of replacements as it is picking a random number to lynch.
Human Destroyer said:Oh, also, scorri, what's with the third person? It can't be a speech imped, since you've posted in first person before.
scorri said:scorri sees Human Destroyer's point and would like to simply say that the mods are discussing it and that she is a little forgetful sometimes. :/
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^This post is the most scummy by far.
Vote: Human Destroyer
Reason:
Opportunistic jump on a new player.
Attempt to look pro-town by offering a host of tips.
Side-Note: I agree with Thunderjolt and Tables Re: Replacements. Its just as much a shot in the dark lynching from the pool of replacements as it is picking a random number to lynch.
Activity post woo!
Oh wait, you guys want me to contribute huh. *sigh* Fine.
Okay first of all school excuses blah blah blah etc. etc.
Okay! Now that that's out of the way, let's begin a real post!
Vote: Vablakes
My case? He was role fishing. If you are a power role and say what roles you think might be a game, you might end up slipping your own role, which is not what we want.
So, let's get some conversation going.
What kind of roles do we expect to see in a game this big? Surely, there have to be quite a few in a game this big.
How many wolves do we think there are?
How are we going to get 23 people to vote for the same person? That is going to be difficult.
Do we use RVS day one to put pressure on random people to see how they react? Who knows, we might make one of the wolves slip up. Or do we wait to see if anyone acts suspicious?
Sorry if those are some nooby questions, but I am a noob.
Speaking of power roles, I want to say something REALLY important. Do not, and I repeat, do not claim unless it is clear that you will be lynched if you do not. (I.E. Don't claim just because someone is voting for you. Only claim if the lynchhammer is definitely coming down on you)
Now, I'd like to put out some important advice for all town players, regardless of role:
When you read a post, put yourself in that person's shoes. Say to yourself, "If I was that player, would I say that if I was Town? Werewolf? Lone?" This is an efficient way to find scum.
Don't bother with policy lynches. It isn't worth reducing the amount of town players for any reason. If they happen to be scummy, that is of course a different story entirely.
Don't play scummy. Sounds obvious, I know, but it happens. Some people do this to avoid nightkills, but it might end up biting you in the butt later when you are forced to claim or get lynched. This is particularly true for Vanilla Townies, since you have no claim to save you, but PRs should avoid doing this like the plague.
Don't lie. The situations where lying is a good idea are few and far between. It makes people suspicious of you unless you can prove it was for a calculated risk.
Don't go down quietly. If you are getting lynched, defend yourself until the end. Self-hammering in particular is a no-no. Letting yourself get lynched without argument is playing against your win condition.
Find towntells as well as scumtells. A lot of people focus on just finding the scum and getting rid of them, but sometimes, finding a pro-town player can be just as helpful. This also allows you to add process of elimination to your ways of finding scum.
Don't bother with meta-reads or post-by-post analyses. I know that seems like a weird thing to say, but all this is doing is going into something knowing your conclusion already, and stretching a bunch of quotes to fit said conclusion. Post-by-post analyses in particular are a waste of time.
Try to avoid putting too much into one post. If someone is skimming the thread, it's unlikely they are going to read everything you say in a gigantic post. Say what you think is important, and nothing more than that.
Remember that you aren't trying to convince another player that they're scum. You're trying to convince everyone else that said player is scum. Arguing directly at them is pointless. Explain to everyone why you think they are scum.
Don't defend yourself too much. Too much of anything is a bad thing. Overly defending yourself distracts you from actively finding out scum. That isn't to say don't defend yourself, by all means do. Just keep in mind that if you are town, you know you are town and you should be looking for the scum, not worrying about keeping up a defense.
Don't think you know the whole scumteam. Chances are, you don't, especially if you have no information on said scum. Don't make up connections until someone has flipped scum, at which point you can try to find connections to other players.
Don't vote for people you don't think are scum. This should be obvious. Don't follow a wagon on someone who you truly think is town. Remember that no one except the scum themselves are certain who the scum is. Stand by what you believe, and don't let others tell you otherwise. At the same time, don't close yourself off to other opinions.
2b) Voting
At any time, in any post, you may vote. Whenever you vote in your post, vote in all caps, bolded.
VOTE: LUCARIO EX
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Yeah, prohawk already leans town. Welcome!