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Value of an uncut holo fossil sheet
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crazypokemon
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People ask for proof
I asked how do i provide it
I am not passing along other sellers to other people to get sheets when I get get those sheets myself
Why would I do that.
Fine I guess you don't want proof of me getting it for those prices.
I asked how do i provide it
I am not passing along other sellers to other people to get sheets when I get get those sheets myself
Why would I do that.
Fine I guess you don't want proof of me getting it for those prices.
Swordfish1989
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It doesn't matter what prices you can get them at! That's what everyone is trying to say. You can't provide proof, only things like ebay can provide proof.
I work in real estate. Many times a seller wants to quickly get rid of a property and the same day it's listed it gets sold for an absurdly cheap price. It doesn't mean that all similar properties are worth only that price. Many times these super cheap properties don't even get put out to the public but are sold in private, so we only find out about the sale after the contract has closed. It's not the market value of those properties. The market value is taken by looking at MANY similar properties sold in the last 6 months - 1 year and comparing their prices with their offerings. Pokemon, and just about verything else in this world works the same way. A private sale does not equal market value.
I work in real estate. Many times a seller wants to quickly get rid of a property and the same day it's listed it gets sold for an absurdly cheap price. It doesn't mean that all similar properties are worth only that price. Many times these super cheap properties don't even get put out to the public but are sold in private, so we only find out about the sale after the contract has closed. It's not the market value of those properties. The market value is taken by looking at MANY similar properties sold in the last 6 months - 1 year and comparing their prices with their offerings. Pokemon, and just about verything else in this world works the same way. A private sale does not equal market value.
crazypokemon
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Ok but you also have to understand something
And Im sure alot of people would agree
There is alot more of private sales than an actual"market place".
We see online a couple sheets here and there online but there is dozens if not hundreds of sheets sold privately each year without public participation.
The ones who do go in to the "market" such as ebay only go there because they are not aware of how many sheets really exist nor have any idea how to properly search for them to get them accordingly instead of public auctions.
Also is ebay really considered a market place when it's 99 to 1 when sheets are more in private than public.
If ebay has 1 or 2 sheets on any given week how is it considered a market?
Enlighten me because I really would like to learn this.
And Im sure alot of people would agree
There is alot more of private sales than an actual"market place".
We see online a couple sheets here and there online but there is dozens if not hundreds of sheets sold privately each year without public participation.
The ones who do go in to the "market" such as ebay only go there because they are not aware of how many sheets really exist nor have any idea how to properly search for them to get them accordingly instead of public auctions.
Also is ebay really considered a market place when it's 99 to 1 when sheets are more in private than public.
If ebay has 1 or 2 sheets on any given week how is it considered a market?
Enlighten me because I really would like to learn this.
So how do I properly search for a fossil sheet so I can buy one at the 25-50?
I promise not to buy any Base Jungle or any other sheet you might be interested in and will even inform you of where you can buy them. I'm really just going to buy Fossil sheets are resell them on Ebay.
I promise not to buy any Base Jungle or any other sheet you might be interested in and will even inform you of where you can buy them. I'm really just going to buy Fossil sheets are resell them on Ebay.
No fossil sheet cost 25-50, the cheapest on ebay is $150. Someone valued the sheet at 25-50. AND PEOPLE PLEASE STOP PMING ME ABOUT YELLOW PIKACHU.. NOT WORTH $1000!
soleosnip3rv2
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crazypokemon
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smh
I'm sick of explaining so you guys can understand
Obviously you only want to know not to collect but to resell
This is why the fossil sheet in my opinion is the Prostitute sheet.
All it does it gets sold and resold over and over again.
Everyon who buys it thinks they can resell it for profit
either they buy it at $25-50 or 100 or more everyone thinks the same that they can sell it more than the seller who sold them.
I collect for collecting purposes not to resell
Forget it I am sick of explaining myself
Point blank is
you have 1% to work with because only 1% of sheets make it public
99% of sheets are private.
You really have no case to say there is a market
if you did there would be more than 1 or 2 listings every once and a while.
I'm sick of explaining so you guys can understand
Obviously you only want to know not to collect but to resell
This is why the fossil sheet in my opinion is the Prostitute sheet.
All it does it gets sold and resold over and over again.
Everyon who buys it thinks they can resell it for profit
either they buy it at $25-50 or 100 or more everyone thinks the same that they can sell it more than the seller who sold them.
I collect for collecting purposes not to resell
Forget it I am sick of explaining myself
Point blank is
you have 1% to work with because only 1% of sheets make it public
99% of sheets are private.
You really have no case to say there is a market
if you did there would be more than 1 or 2 listings every once and a while.
raichuforyou
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Where did you get these statistics? Only 1% go public? I doubt that.
It's not something that can easily be sold without the help of a high traffic website. How would sellers find buyers otherwise? It sure wouldn't be as easy as throwing it up on ebay.
I don't think there are very many on the market because A) They are in collections and B) Because some of those collections have a large numbers of sheets in them. It's not really something that changes hands very often I bet.
Also, a Fossil Sheet at auction starting at $150 did not sell recently so I would value them a little bit lower than that. If all the buyers willing to pay $150+ have bought theirs then they are no longer in the market. Thus the price goes down.
It's not something that can easily be sold without the help of a high traffic website. How would sellers find buyers otherwise? It sure wouldn't be as easy as throwing it up on ebay.
I don't think there are very many on the market because A) They are in collections and B) Because some of those collections have a large numbers of sheets in them. It's not really something that changes hands very often I bet.
Also, a Fossil Sheet at auction starting at $150 did not sell recently so I would value them a little bit lower than that. If all the buyers willing to pay $150+ have bought theirs then they are no longer in the market. Thus the price goes down.
That post back-fired on ya didn't it haha
*nods* it back-fired with a lot of spam to help you prove your point.
crazypokemon
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Wrong Raichuforyou
I know what I am talking about
most of my sheets are off public
Most of my sheets are private not public.
If I waited around for every sheet to appear on public like ebay or somewhere else like it
I would not have had as many sheets as I do now
I been saying that for years that most of my sheets come my way because I work in finding for it
I don't just wait around for ebay to present a sheet.
Actually there are not collectors out there.
Might be one or two collectors out there and even at most they have 15 or 20
Totally different topic of collectors who have sheets vs people who have sheets in their collection.
Most people only have a couple either by contest winning,tournament winning, or some other way.
As for other people who have more of them who are genuine collectors have no problem selling off their sheets.
Thing is those couple of true collectors dont want to break up their collection.
So I'm actually saving up to buy their entire collection.
Sheets are very easy to come by
some sheets more common than others.
I am not sure how to comment on the whole idea sheets change hands very often
but i do know fossil and neo change hands quite alot.
I know what I am talking about
most of my sheets are off public
Most of my sheets are private not public.
If I waited around for every sheet to appear on public like ebay or somewhere else like it
I would not have had as many sheets as I do now
I been saying that for years that most of my sheets come my way because I work in finding for it
I don't just wait around for ebay to present a sheet.
Actually there are not collectors out there.
Might be one or two collectors out there and even at most they have 15 or 20
Totally different topic of collectors who have sheets vs people who have sheets in their collection.
Most people only have a couple either by contest winning,tournament winning, or some other way.
As for other people who have more of them who are genuine collectors have no problem selling off their sheets.
Thing is those couple of true collectors dont want to break up their collection.
So I'm actually saving up to buy their entire collection.
Sheets are very easy to come by
some sheets more common than others.
I am not sure how to comment on the whole idea sheets change hands very often
but i do know fossil and neo change hands quite alot.
FrostyFluxy
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I think you should retract your opening sentence as I deem that to be false, just like everything else your saying.
I am quite sick of your complete lack of knowledge and ignorance on anything and everything. Anyone who even try's to have a normal conversation or debate just gets ridiculed with your completely absurd, false facts.
crazypokemon
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Im talking about actual sheet collectors
the ones who actually dedicate themselves to it that has a great collection both numbers of sheets,diversity of sheets and years dedicating themselves to sheets.
I only know of a couple who fit this description.
There is a difference of people who collect them vs a collector who has them.
A huge difference.
I will not retract my opening sentence.
Because for you to tell me that is breaking the rules telling me my opinion don't matter.
It's funny and convenient how you complain that i keep mentioning my collection because you hate the idea what i say comes from experience within my collection.
You want me to remove my collection and 8+ years of experience so you can have the upper hand in an argument with me.
Well my collection and 8+ years of experience is what defines my argument and my place of argument.
You are not an expert in this
And just because you have a general education in pokemon does not mean you know anything about sheets.
Notice how I have a general knowledge of pokemon but I never put my 2 cents when it comes to trophy cards...even though i own one myself.
When it comes to sheets I'm the Harvard graduate and all of you are GED students.
Same way I'm a ged student and those who have trophy cards are the harvard graduate in that department.
You want me to not mention my sheets and my years of experience because you yourselves have nothing to work against me. So in order to make it an even level you want me to have nothing like the rest of you all because you can't measure up to be me.
This convo is finished
I am done wasting my time on a bunch of nobodies that know nothing of the specific topic.
And charizard authority like i said you have years before you can say your a genuine collector of sheets.
come back to me with that argument when your in your fifth year.
the ones who actually dedicate themselves to it that has a great collection both numbers of sheets,diversity of sheets and years dedicating themselves to sheets.
I only know of a couple who fit this description.
There is a difference of people who collect them vs a collector who has them.
A huge difference.
I will not retract my opening sentence.
Because for you to tell me that is breaking the rules telling me my opinion don't matter.
It's funny and convenient how you complain that i keep mentioning my collection because you hate the idea what i say comes from experience within my collection.
You want me to remove my collection and 8+ years of experience so you can have the upper hand in an argument with me.
Well my collection and 8+ years of experience is what defines my argument and my place of argument.
You are not an expert in this
And just because you have a general education in pokemon does not mean you know anything about sheets.
Notice how I have a general knowledge of pokemon but I never put my 2 cents when it comes to trophy cards...even though i own one myself.
When it comes to sheets I'm the Harvard graduate and all of you are GED students.
Same way I'm a ged student and those who have trophy cards are the harvard graduate in that department.
You want me to not mention my sheets and my years of experience because you yourselves have nothing to work against me. So in order to make it an even level you want me to have nothing like the rest of you all because you can't measure up to be me.
This convo is finished
I am done wasting my time on a bunch of nobodies that know nothing of the specific topic.
And charizard authority like i said you have years before you can say your a genuine collector of sheets.
come back to me with that argument when your in your fifth year.
soleosnip3rv2
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your being ignorant again.read this carefully.your not the expert at all in the sheets AT ALL.dont think your the king of the sheets and we are the lackies because your statements have no proof to back it up with at all.if you yourself am a so called professor in sheets you would not be comming here trying to sell things for your sheets and when you state that ALOT of the sheets are sold off pubic show some evidence instead of hiding it behind closed doors like a child.
if that was the case then money wouldnt be a hassle for you at all.but thats not the case in this case since everyone is stating their value and have the valid proof of everything.your facts dont say anything if you cannot provide the real proof of anything you statement.your 8+ years of collecting if you were smart and showed proof to people on here no one would keep on telling you time and time again your wrong.you have no valid argument and have no proof to back it up
if that was the case then money wouldnt be a hassle for you at all.but thats not the case in this case since everyone is stating their value and have the valid proof of everything.your facts dont say anything if you cannot provide the real proof of anything you statement.your 8+ years of collecting if you were smart and showed proof to people on here no one would keep on telling you time and time again your wrong.you have no valid argument and have no proof to back it up
crazypokemon
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Oh lets face it
we all act like harvard graduates in our own specialty
either it be sheets
PSA cards
Booster boxes
trophy cards
We are all this in our specialty
Also quit it soleofsnipe I did not say it in away it was just about me.
I said it in away that we all have our specialties in certain area.
Not all of us are experts in everything
Some are experts in some things
Only talking the truth.
Not sure what your specialty is at but I am taking a guess in the dark....Holo cards?
I don't know you long enough but I do know Smpratte is Top with trophies
I'm top with sheets
Rusty is top with error cards but to my knowledge thats more on MTG
Gary is top with PSA
We are all diverse and expert on our own levels
so tell me soleofsnipe how many sheets do you own?
Why is your opinion have any weigh in on the matter?
tell me about yourself and your sheet collection...if you have one.
Point is I dont give advice or input on gary's expertise,Smpratte expertise,rusty expertise or anyone else expertise so dont interfere with my expertise.
Plain and simple
Funny how you all want me to help you get sheets after you talk down to me.
I respect the guys listed above in terms of their proper expertise but to try and cross over and put in their 2 cents or even myself crossing over to them like my opinion has any weigh makes no sense.
There is a huge difference in owning and having the said expertise and actually collecting them.
Look at me I have the ssb trophy I have it
it is in my collection But I dont have a collection of trophy cards.
I dont have any weigh in a convo about trophy when all i have is one
same thing when someone has a couple of sheets no weigh in when all they have is a couple.
get it.
we all act like harvard graduates in our own specialty
either it be sheets
PSA cards
Booster boxes
trophy cards
We are all this in our specialty
Also quit it soleofsnipe I did not say it in away it was just about me.
I said it in away that we all have our specialties in certain area.
Not all of us are experts in everything
Some are experts in some things
Only talking the truth.
Not sure what your specialty is at but I am taking a guess in the dark....Holo cards?
I don't know you long enough but I do know Smpratte is Top with trophies
I'm top with sheets
Rusty is top with error cards but to my knowledge thats more on MTG
Gary is top with PSA
We are all diverse and expert on our own levels
so tell me soleofsnipe how many sheets do you own?
Why is your opinion have any weigh in on the matter?
tell me about yourself and your sheet collection...if you have one.
Point is I dont give advice or input on gary's expertise,Smpratte expertise,rusty expertise or anyone else expertise so dont interfere with my expertise.
Plain and simple
Funny how you all want me to help you get sheets after you talk down to me.
I respect the guys listed above in terms of their proper expertise but to try and cross over and put in their 2 cents or even myself crossing over to them like my opinion has any weigh makes no sense.
There is a huge difference in owning and having the said expertise and actually collecting them.
Look at me I have the ssb trophy I have it
it is in my collection But I dont have a collection of trophy cards.
I dont have any weigh in a convo about trophy when all i have is one
same thing when someone has a couple of sheets no weigh in when all they have is a couple.
get it.
soleosnip3rv2
New Member
While again you seem to wildly fly off topic, the whole point of this thread was to figure out how much an uncut sheet of fossil was worth, not banter back an forth about who knows what or who owns more. Please understand that you do not have to be an expert to know how much a particular item is worth, whether it be Pokemon affiliated or not. A little bit of research is all it takes.
I personally do not own a sheet, as stated in one of my previous posts. Luckily, this topic was not intended to boast about a person's sheet collection (which you continue to do; over and over), nor did elam even ask if anyone had one. This thread was only to figure out what one is worth, plain and simple.
Again I need you to listen very closely. Nobody here is trying to tell you how to go about collecting, nor that they are more "experienced" in the ways of sheet collecting. The only thing anyone is trying to get through to you is that a person's word means nothing, and I repeat NOTHING; unless factual proof of said word can be given. Don't believe me? Here is another example for you:
I say gravity does not exist. I have no proof to back up said theory, but I still proclaim it to be true. Another person conducts a few experiments that prove that gravity does indeed exist. Who are you to believe? The guy that has evident proof, or simply a man with his word? Any person would be a fool to believe the man and just his word. Basic logic would dictate that a person with proof should hold more meaning than a person absent it.
Look man, I don't want to argue with you; I am just trying to help you out. People on this forum react the way they do to your posts because of the way you present yourself. You act like you know everything about this, and that everyone else is completely and utterly ignorant to it. On top of that, you continuously boast about your own collection, while at the same time bashing other people's collections. Is it a wonder that people react the way they do?
crazypokemon
Active Member
I did not bash other peoples collections
Did I not say I respect them when it comes to their expertise
And what's this crap about gravity no evidence vs taking someones word.
My word is my evidence because look at the source it's coming from
Me 8 years experience
I been all in this since 2004
I am not just some random person that expect you to take my word for it.
Do whatever you want
I gave my point of view
Also keep in mind you guys did not wanted this to spread for 4 pages over.
Here a damn clue and a damn idea
Dont respond to my post
hows that.
Mine was the 2nd post
after that it was all of you arguing with me.
You dont have to be here in this thread.
You dont wanna hear me then leave simple as that.
Or dont respond to my post.
I came left my post and left. then post 3 and beyond was targeting me.
So dont start with me if your not gonna wanna hear my response.
Did I not say I respect them when it comes to their expertise
And what's this crap about gravity no evidence vs taking someones word.
My word is my evidence because look at the source it's coming from
Me 8 years experience
I been all in this since 2004
I am not just some random person that expect you to take my word for it.
Do whatever you want
I gave my point of view
Also keep in mind you guys did not wanted this to spread for 4 pages over.
Here a damn clue and a damn idea
Dont respond to my post
hows that.
Mine was the 2nd post
after that it was all of you arguing with me.
You dont have to be here in this thread.
You dont wanna hear me then leave simple as that.
Or dont respond to my post.
I came left my post and left. then post 3 and beyond was targeting me.
So dont start with me if your not gonna wanna hear my response.
raichuforyou
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Owning a lot of something doesn't make you an expert. It's the research and experience that makes someone an expert. Crazy, I'm sure you've done your homework on your collection and know a lot about sheets. That said, sellers don't decide the value of an item, buyers do. The value of Fossil sheets will probably being going up and down as long as they're around. At times it may be $50 and at others (like right now) it could be $100+.
TonySandlin
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