ryanvergel said:
What BDIF hasn't kettler contributed in??????????????????//
Queendom.
:tongue:
Anywho, on to some real discussion...
Scizor said:
Metanite, when it is correctly running Lugia ex, isn’t as easy as it would seem. In order to establish a game winning advantage you’re much better off running a 2/2 Steelix ex line and exclusively going for that. They can deal with 1 Steelix and get another draggy up shortly, while using lugia effectively. It is also not true that most Metanites don’t run Farmer.
Metanite needs 3 Dragonites in play in order to use Lugia ex effectivelly in this match. You will Ash the first one, they respond with Lugia, 2x Detla Charge, Switch, KO.
I've found that by the time I am ready to attack with Steelix, my opponent has only 1 or 2 Dragonites in play. If they have 2, and you Ash it, they need ALOT more resources than if the have 3 in play.
If they prize or are forced to discard anything in the Dragonite line, you win no questions asked.
Banette is an iffy matchup. While you have ways to remove their trainers, it’s hard to get things set up. You’re relying on stage 2s to do damage and it takes some time for Queen to reach lethal damage. The Lati@s help, yes, but Metagross is not an attack option due to its sheer importance to the deck’s engine. It isn’t so much about you stopping their gyms than it is them getting quick prizes and advantage. You probably noticed this at the last CC you went to.
Banette stinks. Especially when you don't play Latias Dual Aura. -_-
The most important factor in this match is getting a good start. If you can do that, you stand a decent chance of winning.
Eggs is another matchup you want the 2/2 Steelix line in. Using Metagross as your main attacker while relying on it to setup your other support is risky at times. A coulpe steelixs loaded with metal energies is very tough for eggs to deal with. As you pointed out, Queen is very good vs it.
I haven't tested this one alot. But from my testing, you want to cut their resources with non-ex swarms, then send up a Steelix that they can't KO for the last few prizes.
Flygon ex d can’t handle this deck. You setup 2 Metagross and a Latios * and you can’t lose.
Truth.
My basic strategy is to let them KO Casty, then send up Steelix and hit their benched Trapinches and Vibravas. You will be able to KO 2 of their preevolutions before they take down Steelix. Then send up LatiOs* and pwn their active guy. They're down 3 Flygons. You're down a Steelix and a Castform.
If they play any EXs with 100HP (Jolteon or Altaria d), that's just 2 free prizes for you.
Flairados can be lame because of flips, but if you just Metagross swarm exclusively and NOT play exs (you really shouldn’t), then you should be fine. They take 3 turns to do any significant damage with Flareon or the other supporting eeveelutions which would just net you time to setup something.
I hate Flariados.
I agree with all of that.
Salagross is something that needs to be talked about. It is difficult, but there is a way to win. Basically you want to get the first prize off their Castform with a NON ex (ie Metang, Queen possibly). They will be forced to respond to it and that’s when you continually use Latios *. Hopefully it gets to a point where they can’t get a Sala up right away and you are able to spend a turn getting Steelix up to where it can Mudslide a Metagross, which leads them to not being able to OHKO Steelix and turns into another Mudslide KO on the other Metagross. If it gets to that point in the game, you win.
I agree here as well. As with Metanite, you want to take out their energy acceleration whenever you can. With each deck, it's when they can't return-KO your Steelix.
