Burninating_Torchic
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BT Wins that on me
But still we need a story for Heatran
There is one.
It's the guardian and creator of that volcano it lives in.
BT Wins that on me
But still we need a story for Heatran
There is one.
It's the guardian and creator of that volcano it lives in.
Marril - They're referred to as gods in the Japanese version of the movie, but not in the English version. The reason for this is that Shinto (the predominant religion in Japan) is polytheistic, whereas Christianity and Judaism (the predominant religions in America) are monotheistic. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if they don't even release Arceus to the US, ever.
trying to force the concept of 'kami' through the western all-powerful creator 'god' mold just won't work, if one is looking for any type of accuracy as to what was meant by the concept of something like 'umi no kami' (lugia).
Good for them. You're going to argue the finer points of "the English version is more correct than the original written intent" with me?
Also, hypersensitive Christians/Jews can suck it up and just accept that in a fictional world, there might be a different god or even multiple gods, and that this is perfectly fine and they have to live with it.
IMHO, "god" being made to mean specifically "all-powerful creator" is worse than translating "kami" as "god".
Edit: On reflection, I don't believe translating "kami" as "god" is bad, given proper context, so adjusted the above sentence to reflect that.
Westerners respect such pantheons as the Greco-Roman or Norse ones as still being "gods", after all. All else fails, North American children can have Lugia explained to them as being on the same level as Triton.
save perhaps for a few people that are in need of psychiatric help, nobody worships Lugia as a god
Who cares about who in the real world worships Lugia? In the Pokémon world, there is definite religious significance applied to him. If you're arguing anything else, you're missing the point and thus are wasting your time.
Also, Lugia is a real figure in Shinto mythology.
Anyway, as I've said, my arguments are that "god" is not a bad translation for "kami" when you don't ignore the fact that "god" is not universally synonymous with "all-powerful creator figure".
There is a religious significance applied to Lugia because the Pokemon world is based off of the Shinto religion more than any other philosophy or religion.
The issue here is that America is quick to censor that religious significance. America as a whole does not deny that people believe/believed that the Christian God, Loki, Zeus, etc really exist. The problem is that Pokemon is a fictional world, and as such, it should not have religious significance. In Japan, the Pokemon world's beliefs are similar to those of the predominant religion, so there's no problem. In America, however, there's a problem with promoting religion in a fictional universe.
I am not denying that there's a religious significance applied to Lugia in the original Japanese version of the Pokemon world. I'm merely trying to explain why America does not want to apply that same religious significance.
I started a thread talking about Lucifer in the RTC about a week ago, and it got deleted when there were good discussions going on, and I was banned.
I wondered why that thread went, to be honest. I certainly never saw any trolling or even very much religious disrespect in that thread.