Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

The new archetypes

Prime said:
IMHO, Lucario is an archetype. Machamp just piggy bags off of Lucario and rides the broken train to success. It's just like Arcanine/Blissey and a few other decks where there is one really good pokemon combined with another decent one. The decent one doesn't do much in games, but can work decently with the really good pokemon.

IMHO, Mario isn't an archetype because it's just another Lucario variant. But IMHO, Mario is a deck too, and deserves respect just as much as any other deck.
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Yeah, I don't see much of a future in Arcanine. I mean, the thing basically has 60 HP after attacking once!! That is not good to say the least. Now I have one of those decks with the beasly Blissey and the decent Pokemon being Weavile. But Weavile here serves two purposes: 1: Energy acceleration 2: Boost in power
 
Dark Weedle said:
blissey wins because its the bcif in its simplicity and donkage power. If the blissey hits turn 2 with a couple boosts its over.

And metanite was THE archtype for half of last season.
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And Mario is complicated??? No, just attach and roll/flip. Its simple as well.

Yea metanite was THE archtype for HALF the season, but it was THE archtype in the wrong half.
 
Yea your right.

I wouldnt mind seeing someone playing Buzzcat. That deck is fast and I dont think people even know what it is. Buzzcat or MEOW!!!! should be used.But i think the use of Lucario is the scare of this deck. Its so fast tho,the techs in it would be great.
 
Last year, Metanite had a stretch of dominating the later States and had a great showing at regs. Today, Blissey is the best choice. The better lists have no terrible matches, which is a big difference from last year.
 
Most of the time,the decks that are played arent dependant on the list(it helps) but it mostly depends on the PLAYER. You can copy a list from the gym and it be best list period,but if you dont know how to comprehend the stradegy and concept,it means nothing.

Metanite didnt win alot of states or didnt top that mcuh in regionals,MSNBC-Absolutions-R-Gon dominanted those events mostly. BOOM/Speed Ban did better in those events than Mnite.

Blissey is the choice now,but with the release of Great Encounters,can you say several new deck types that are gonna be more playable for the metagame. Right now,I see Ban being better than Blissey.Thats my opinion.
 
Metanite was the best deck last format. Sceptile ex beat speed spread, R-Gon was a clash, Banette died if it didn't win early. The only match that was even worrisome was ambush.
 
OK you had Sceptile Ex for Speed Spread,you still had Jirachi Ex in the deck so you still got no powers and his attack was just the regular cost. No drawback. You had licki to spread to to Sceptile δ ex and Ray finshed the job if it came down to it. R-Gon was a clash,but most of the time R-Gon came out on top. Destiny literally destroyed Metanite,it was like a 80/20 in Destiny's favor. Banette mostly did win around t6-t7. MSNBC was like the same setup but could snipe and hit things on the bench.Better.Ambush was around the same matchup as destiny,but around 70/30.Ape killed it,T2 Fire Blitz mostly killed it. Mario also beat it(yes donking the castform killed it and cess)Mewtrick could beat it around 60/40 since it stops trainers so no candy,no transceiver. Also if it killed the castform quick,then it was over.Raieggs killed it,Flariados could defint take it,speed over setup.Super Stantler could withstand it since Marawak was in it and Cess and Legacy helps.

Metanite won 56 cities and around 5-7 states. Cities it was the best choice,states and regionals.no It was a good deck starting the season,but the metagame got quicker and people knew how to withstand and stop their accels. It was a good deck,but not the best deck in the format.
 
~`Flygon`~ said:
OK you had Sceptile Ex for Speed Spread,you still had Jirachi Ex in the deck so you still got no powers and his attack was just the regular cost. No drawback. You had licki to spread to to Sceptile δ ex and Ray finshed the job if it came down to it.
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Yeah, since Metagross is the only attacker in the entire deck. Aggro Dragonite anyone? Oh no, 30 from a Likitung... 60 hp, Heavy Impact, die. Seriously, I didn't even use Metagross except as an emergency attacker against Speed Spread, once Sceptile ex was out.

~`Flygon`~ said:
R-Gon was a clash,but most of the time R-Gon came out on top.
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Wrong, Clash means 50/50 for a well build Metanite and a well built R-Gon.

~`Flygon`~ said:
Destiny literally destroyed Metanite,it was like a 80/20 in Destiny's favor.
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That it did, The remedy for that was to win your first few matches, and then you would never see Destiny again =/.

~`Flygon`~ said:
Banette mostly did win around t6-t7
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I believe I said IF you survived, and if they didn't donk every ER2 and PR, you had a good shot at doing that. Im not even going to get into what Sceptile ex does to Banette (3 energy to attack and no power... GTFO)

~`Flygon`~ said:
MSNBC was like the same setup but could snipe and hit things on the bench.
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Ever heard of Ape? Lucario? Yeah, they kinda killed this deck. Stop naming decks that completly failed in those metagames.

~`Flygon`~ said:
Better.Ambush was around the same matchup as destiny,but around 70/30.
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Wow ur wrong, AMbush was around 80-20 if the Ambush player set up and the Metanite player wasn't Colten Meahl.

~`Flygon`~ said:
Ape killed it,T2 Fire Blitz mostly killed it.
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Yes, because Ape always had the 4 cards nessesary t2 to do it. And you never play mentor, wow, how did i miss that? Mew * and Fearow killed ape.

~`Flygon`~ said:
Mario also beat it(yes donking the castform killed it and cess)
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Mario didn't win beyond a T1-2 Donk, fact.

~`Flygon`~ said:
Mewtrick could beat it around 60/40 since it stops trainers so no candy,no transceiver.
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Mewtric DIED before cities were even finished, Ness even admited it, why must you name dead decks?

~`Flygon`~ said:
Also if it killed the castform quick,then it was over.Raieggs killed it,
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Bull, Dragonite ex and a decent setup saw the end of Delta.

~`Flygon`~ said:
Flariados could defint take it,speed over setup.
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Gee, if only there was a pokemon in the deck with resistance to grass... Besides ALL OF THEM.... Sceptile ex and a few switches/warp points, gg.

~`Flygon`~ said:
Super Stantler could withstand it since Marawak was in it and Cess and Legacy helps.
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Super Stantler dies just the same as Destiny, this is the 4th dead deck you have brought up =/ (Marowak wasn't in good SS decks BTW, Banette and Raichu were)

~`Flygon`~ said:
Metanite won 56 cities and around 5-7 states. Cities it was the best choice,states and regionals.no It was a good deck starting the season,but the metagame got quicker and people knew how to withstand and stop their accels. It was a good deck,but not the best deck in the format.
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It was the best deck in the format. News flash, the BDIF does NOT mean it beat every single deck created the entire format. It means it had alot more good matchups than any other deck in the format, and could handle a wide variety of decks. And considering you had to pull out a bunch of dead deck (Mewtric? WTH?) in order to find a way to beat it, I'd say you've reached the end of your rope. GOOD DAY TO YOU SIR.
 
Are you serious,all those decks were playable during last format. I named every deck you could possibly see. If its the BDIF ,it has to be able to withstand and beat more than half the decks in the format,which it couldnt and didnt. Ape had better matchups than metanite,but you didnt say that was the BDIF.

Come on,all those decks were seen and played. Mewtrick was played in cities,same time as Metanite,so was Super Stantler,no they werent dead. Stantler won some cities. Destiny lasted til the end of the season,Metanite didnt.

Flariados couldnt beat Metanite,oh yea they are resistnat to Grass,but Sceptile and Metanite are weak to what????FIRE Flareon Ex is fire right??making sure???is it????

Mario did win no matter how you put it. It donked and thats what its good for.Speed Ban/BOOM shutdown your trainers,no candy still,then it was fire. Banette would be doing 60-90 by T2,how wont that not stop your setup.

Those decks werent dead,they were played in the height of metanites shine. The deck cant be dead if its there being played. Its matchups arent that good if you look how decks were played.

Its no point now,its a rotated archtype,this is about new archtypes.so I have nothing left to say.......
 
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SPARTA said:
Metanite was the best deck last format. Sceptile ex beat speed spread, R-Gon was a clash, Banette died if it didn't win early. The only match that was even worrisome was ambush.
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man sparta i agree with you 96%. i didnt give you a full 100 because ambush was a piece of cake. but i agree with the rest of what you said
 
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SPARTA said:
Mewtric DIED before cities were even finished, Ness even admited it, why must you name dead decks?
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Mewtrick wasn't a bad deck, the only problem was that hardly anyone played it. I did fairly well at Regionals and BRs with Mewtrick, and Mewtrick won a few cities, IIRC.
 
~`Flygon`~ said:
(referring to Matenite) ....It was a good deck,but not the best deck in the format.
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During Cities, and States, Metanite was BDIF. People said that during that time.

Most wins = BDIF. Your oppinion can't change that.

SPARTA said:
~´Flygon´~ said:
MSNBC was like the same setup but could snipe and hit things on the bench.
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Ever heard of Ape? Lucario? Yeah, they kinda killed this deck. Stop naming decks that completly failed in those metagames.
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Oh shut up. Ape and Lucario wasn't released when it (MSNBC) was big.
 
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