Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

The new archetypes

What a random place for all the Mario hate. Did Mario steal your lunch money or something guys?

Blissey & Mario were the two big BR archatypes. It remains to be seen how well they will manage to do a Cities though. SW has a lot of stuff that will hurt both ... starting with one line that can get them both.
 
~`Flygon`~ said:
Yea the weavile blissey is pretty slow and weak.

Why worry about Blissey around Feb when Absolutions can come back(Glaceon Lv.X/Umbereon/Espeon/Absol Ex/Zapdos DP4) techs to fit your meta. Thats the only deck I really wanna play with cause Glaceon Lv.X attack is so good 70 and then a possible 20 to all their bench. Then they cant use powers him by hiself shutsdown a whole deck if active.

Then you get wont a weakness and retreat with Espeon/Umbereon.

Also Latilock is gonna be fun to play. I wanna see someone play a legendary deck.
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No, the deck you should worry about once we get dp4 is Hurricane.
 
DarthPika said:
No, the deck you should worry about once we get dp4 is Hurricane.
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Im not worried bout Hurricane now,so I know it wont matter to me when DP4 hits,so many decks are gonna be good its not even funny. Hurricane is ok,but its not what your making it out to be. Ive tested E-Gon against it and i won 6 of the 10 I played. Even with your stantler start,I still will have gotten the cards frm the draw to setup. You can copycat,fine,I dont care about your hand size.

Absolutions is gonna be my deck type also with Rambolt 2000/Darkrai/E-Gon.

Mario top 16 at Nats and it still isnt a deck???(Tom(KingGengar did a great job with the deck)such high standards for decks nowadays isnt it???:confused:
 
Mario is NOT an archetype because once you take out lower age division wins, it doesn't have many wins at all. Masters was dominated by Blissey, and the rest of the field was spread out evenly.

J/S metagames are obviously going to be behind masters for the most parts, since all the decks they play (for the most part) are decks that have been played in Masters for a while.
 
But nobody can deny that Mario has done well. It's done better than many others decks in the format that were praised early on like Empoleon/Lucario, Kricketune, and Feraligatr.
 
desert eagle said:
Mario is NOT an archetype because once you take out lower age division wins, it doesn't have many wins at all. Masters was dominated by Blissey, and the rest of the field was spread out evenly.

J/S metagames are obviously going to be behind masters for the most parts, since all the decks they play (for the most part) are decks that have been played in Masters for a while.
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Devil's advocate: is at least 20 wins in the masters division _that_ low? It's crazy to say that Mario isn't an archetype. Just because I hated Zap-Turn-Dos doesn't mean that it wasn't an archetype at the time.
 
Mario should be and is a archtype, You dont need the people at pokegym to tell you that. Its won tournments and toped at major tourneys(Look at Nats,Look at Worlds/Grinder). If you would name Blissey a archtype before Mario,then your just going off popularity.

Blissey is just gonna be like Metanite was last year during cities,yeah its a good deck and it can win but soon its just gonna go away or be played but not win states or regionals.

MARIO.dec is a deck hands down.Lets end it there.
 
I'm surprised at what people are saying isn't an archetype. What exactly is your definition of an archetype? By my definition, which is a deck or family of decks that most people know about, with a straightforward strategy, and that wins plenty of games, Mario qualifies. So does Duskqueen. Blissey variants probably qualify as several archetypes, because of the different overall strategies in each of them. Kricketune qualifies, and so does Hurricane.
 
Dark Umbreon said:
Hi Blassari,

Stick with Leafeon combined with Umbreon and Espeon. In a decent built Sceptile is not needed and just slows the deck down considerable. It suffices to be able to knock out the defender in one attack on the fourth turn since the first offense force builts from turn two to turn three and suffices to knock out the defense force unless Buffer Piece has been involved at least once in the first three turns. Leave Sceptile for Tangegrowth decks.

Hi Hashinator89,

Hurricane uses DP2 Feraligatr combined with Delcatty and Magneton from Power Keepers. The idea is to draw in energies and recycle some of them from the discard to maintain a stable beatdown with Feraligatr's first attack. The deck is rather reliant on the Delcatty and Magneton engine to accomplish this aim.
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I will test it with Sceppy and wothout Sceppy...
 
IMHO, Lucario is an archetype. Machamp just piggy bags off of Lucario and rides the broken train to success. It's just like Arcanine/Blissey and a few other decks where there is one really good pokemon combined with another decent one. The decent one doesn't do much in games, but can work decently with the really good pokemon.

IMHO, Mario isn't an archetype because it's just another Lucario variant. But IMHO, Mario is a deck too, and deserves respect just as much as any other deck.
 
~`Flygon`~ said:
Im not worried bout Hurricane now,so I know it wont matter to me when DP4 hits,so many decks are gonna be good its not even funny. Hurricane is ok,but its not what your making it out to be. Ive tested E-Gon against it and i won 6 of the 10 I played. Even with your stantler start,I still will have gotten the cards frm the draw to setup. You can copycat,fine,I dont care about your hand size.

Absolutions is gonna be my deck type also with Rambolt 2000/Darkrai/E-Gon.

Mario top 16 at Nats and it still isnt a deck???(Tom(KingGengar did a great job with the deck)such high standards for decks nowadays isnt it???:confused:
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Once Dp4 hits, Stantler wont be the starter any more. *evil grin*

What exactly the starter is, well, you will just have to guess.

All I will say is that it greatly helps with consistancy, and will make the deck very hard to beat.
 
ZRE a archtype and it wasnt that good. Raieggs is a archtype,did gr eat at a nats(won,Mario got T16)a bust at worlds and last format,its the weakest deck period in this format.PERIOD. Metanite was a archtype(it was ok,not great)won alot of cities,didnt do well in states and regionals. Alot of archtypes are ok,and thats fine,but you gotta respect the fact it is a deck and should be a archtype,it deserves that much.

You never know,Blissey could just be a bust in cities,MARIo did good at NATS and WORLDS.If you make a Blissey a archtype before MARIO, then you just hate the deck and has nothing to do with its stats.
 
if not a mario archetype, it should definately be a lucario archetype
lucario is the one of the most versatile cards and complements so many others
blissey is too new to be an archetype b/c it is overhyped and overrated
it wins because nobody expects it, but lucario is consistent
 
blissey wins because its the bcif in its simplicity and donkage power. If the blissey hits turn 2 with a couple boosts its over.

And metanite was THE archtype for half of last season.
 
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