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2010-11-25 TM Grumpig 023

Happy Thanksgiving

  • Great Card, everyone should have a Spiral Ham at Thanksgiving!

    Votes: 5 13.9%
  • Good Card. I much prefer Turkey over Ham!

    Votes: 14 38.9%
  • For League and Fun ONLY! Why choose when you can have both!

    Votes: 13 36.1%
  • Collectible Card. I don't Eat meat you Carnivores!

    Votes: 4 11.1%

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    36
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MrMeches

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2010-11-25 TM Grumpig 023
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Mmm... Pig? First post on Thanksgiving. lol

Anyways, it could be a new Gardevoir, being kind of decent with Expert Belt. It's second attack is not bad reminding me of the Banette in PK though it's risky. But the weakness is so bad against Vilegar in this format so... 4/10
 
Plox returns! :D

Seriously though, for a measly 20 damage and with 90 HP, Grumpig won´t do much. I have seen this played together with Vileplume and it works all right, but still it´s anything but the new Plox.
The second attack is actually not at all that bad, but still if you´re playing Grumpig you´re most likely after the Psychic Lock and most likely your opponent will keep the bench small enough for it not to do very much damage at all.

However Grumpig is a good fun card, therefore it get s 4/10 in modified.
In limited, this card could really do something with it second attack - I don´t think anyone use it at the prerelease I was to, but then again I didn´t even see anyone pulling it.
 
It's a good card, but it won't see much competive play. 2 energy for the first attack is too expensive for what it is. It's second attack is respectable and will be doing 80-100 damage on average, but the real kicker of the attack is that its not effected by weakness and resistance, which is a bad trade off making KOing Uxie's and certain level X cards harder. A retreat cost of two is one too many, HP is average. If it's first attack was cheaper, I feel it could be a great disruption card, preventing Uxie and Azelf from using their powers,
 
This card has a lot of good aspects but it's just...not quite good enough to be very competitive. It might be used as a tech in some decks though. I wish Psychic Lock was 1 energy, that would make it an amazing tech. But for 2 energy, 20 damage is just too low. 30 would be a little more fair imo.

6/10 cuz it can be used as a tech depending on the deck.
 
Yay, we do have a card today. And Happy Thanksgiving everyone!

Today's CotD is Grumpig from TM, a fairly interesting card simply because it conjures up bad memories of PLOX. Statwise 90 HP is average for a Stage 1, x2 Weakness to :psychic: is meh, no Resistance is common, and :colorless::colorless: to Retreat is meh. Psychic Lock is still pretty nasty; :psychic::colorless: for 20 is a bit overpriced, but the effect of sealing off your opponent's Poke-Powers during their next turn is still a pretty nasty effect. Sadly, as it only deals a weak 20 instead of Gardy's 50, it makes it a lot harder to get KOs or anything. Bench Manipulation is meant to compensate for the lack of power, dealing 40x the number of Tails for each Benched Pokemon your opponent has (they also have to flip) for :psychic::colorless::colorless:.

Modified - 6/10 (It's annoying for sure, but the 90 HP and weak 20 damage really makes it hard to use as a primary attacker, and all Expert Belt does is make it a little harder to kill and deal a little more damage, but then you lose 2 prizes when Grumpig goes down)
Limited - 7/10 (Unlikely to use Psychic Lock much, but Bench Manipulation is lots of fun)
Unlimited - 1/10 (No use here, why use mini-Psychic Lock when you have the original?)
 
second attack would be amazing if we were using the coin flip app on my iPod, which flips tails 9 out of ten times. Other than that, I can't think of how to use this competitively. 4/10 (12/10 with coin flip app)

This card confused me the first time I read it...
 
im making a deck with this to test. 2 of these and 1 of the LA grumpig.
It looks like this:

4-3 grumpig
4 spiritomb
2 solrock TM
1 lunatone SV
2 uxie LA
1 azelf.
 
Happy Thanksgiving. We actually had both turkey and ham...



Grumpig tends to be one of those overshadowed Pokémon: many of its past iterations were poor, and whenever one showed potential, another Pokémon would be released (similar or not) that drew all attention away. The best have merely replicated older strategies, sometimes better and sometimes worse than past decks. As someone who has toyed with some of those decks (and is just fond of pigs in general) I’ll have to fight a positive bias.

Grumpig is Psychic, which will allow it to slam the Weakness on a few popular cards, such as Uxie and Uxie Lv.X. It is a Stage 1 which is still a mixed blessing. Harder to splash into a deck than a Basic but easier than a Stage 1, power creep has blurred the lines on what is appropriate for each level: you can’t count on a Stage 1 to be stronger than the average played Basic Pokémon or faster than (a regularly played) Stage 2 Pokémon thanks to the support enjoyed by both. 90 HP is the least a Stage 1 Pokémon can get away with (barring some compensation in terms of raw power). Yes, 80 HP Stage 1 Pokémon see some play but they tend to be protected, Bench-sitters, or simply so powerful that it’s just okay to regularly lose a Prize for them.

The Psychic Weakness x2 is expected, but also hurts the wonderful type-matching this card would enjoy: if it doesn’t take out an Uxie/Uxie Lv.X, Uxie Lv.X just needs a Double Colorless Energy to OHKO Grumpig. Taking out Uxie was why being a Psychic Pokémon was useful, so this is both a mark against it and diminishes one of the cards potential perks. The lack of Resistance still irks me, since I can tell you now this card doesn’t have enough raw power to justify dropping it as a matter of balance. The two Energy required to retreat I would normally score as “average”: in terms of usefulness two Energy is a bit too high to Retreat easily, but when you have to you can without crippling your set up. The thing is, this card isn’t looking all that great and I’ll tell you now, it doesn’t get a whole lot better. A lower Retreat Cost would have been just one more little thing that would have helped compensate for the other less impressive aspects.

Grumpig has two attacks to choose from, and both seem to be underrated from what I heard and read. How so? Psychic Lock is a good attack, but not strong enough to build your entire deck (and strategy) around. (PC) for 20, even with the excellent effect of preventing your opponent from using Poké-Powers during his/her next turn, is a little low. It isn’t that far off, though: it really is a potent effect, as can be attested to by the popularity of the Gardevoir (Secret Wonders) that possessed a beefier version of it. Everyone praising that card should remember the raw power Gardevoir enjoyed when we had multiple potent versions that combined well (and a great Gallade on top of all that).

The second attack, Bench Manipulation, is also recycled. It needs (PCC) to attack, and that is pretty reasonable provided this is a “good” big attack. Thanks to Double Colorless Energy, you can get it off in two turns. Is it worth it? The answer is “maybe”. The attack has your opponent flip a coin for each Benched Pokémon they have and does 40 points of damage for each result of “Tails” they get to their Active Pokémon. It also ignores Weakness and Resistance, which is unfortunate: right now scoring off of Psychic Weakness is useful while running into Resistance is quite infrequent. If your opponent has a full Bench, you may score 0, 40, 80, 120, 160, or even 200 points of damage. While striking out with 0 points of damage is horrid and getting a mere 40 points is poor for three Energy, 80 points is solid, 120 really good, 160 great and 200 probably overkill (but still a happy thing). The problem is that you can’t always guarantee a full Bench. If you’re swinging against a Bench with at least three Pokémon, the attack is still alright, but once you get below that you work too hard for the return. The more vulnerable your opponent is, the less this attack can do (like nothing when they are down to just an Active). Then again, you can also look at it as the attack having the most potential when your opponent is strongest. Ultimately I think it is a good attack, but only just. The format seems to favor decks that try to focus on a single strong Pokémon and speed for a First/Second turn KO, often for game… or that have a good two or three Pokémon set-up. The latter have that as a minimum and usually prefer to have a duplicate of each piece in play if possible.

To play Grumpig we should examine where it comes from and what other versions are available. The Modified legal versions aren’t “good”, but they aren’t bad: they are Basic Pokémon you would only play to use their Evolved form. Both have attacks to get them back to the Bench, which is where I’d want them since Grumpig won’t have any HP to spare. I’d go with the Legends Awakened version as it has a better Weakness, though with only 50 HP neither will last long in the Active slot. The other legal Grumpig is one of those cards that makes me think “There has to be something I can do with that!” as it has an attack for no Energy that inflicts Confusion that places six damage counters if the afflicted Pokémon fails in an attack (instead of three). It can also hit with Grind for a decent 20 points of damage per Energy attached to its self, thus you can’t hit for less than 40 points of damage. Three would still yield a solid 60 points of damage, and anything else would become a poor yield but would still be possible. As a tag team you’ve got more options, though there isn’t any special synergy between the two.

How can you maximize the effectiveness of Grumpig? Simply put, your Bench is your friend. Try to cut off access to another resource (like Trainers via a benched HS – Undaunted Vileplume) and/or add extra damage (Drapion Lv.X). Both seem a bit fragile, but what if you have a Vileplume deck that already also uses Psychic Energy? Locking down Powers the first few turns (even though your opponent will have to get one or two turns at first) is quite handy. You can’t really rely on Bench Manipulation to carry a deck, but as a fallback option it isn’t bad at all. Not just because it can hit fantastically high damage if your opponent has no choice but to fill the Bench, but because it may scare them into playing light, further limiting your opponent’s set up. If your opponent tries to completely nerf Bench Manipulation by forgoing a Bench, they can lose from a single Take Away by Driftblim (HS – Undaunted). If you go the opposite route, you can run Honchkrow from Supreme Victors to fill your opponent’s Bench with your choice of their discarded Basics.

There are only nine Pokémon I can find with Poké-Powers in HS – Triumphant, so you probably won’t be locking away much of anything with Grumpig. Bench Manipulation becomes a good attack here, though. Besides the nightmare scenario of facing a single, Psychic Resistant Pokémon you should find your opponent has a large enough Bench to be swinging for good damage or such a bad set up that you can keep Grumpig in reserve and let something else peck away at the Defending Pokémon.

Ratings

Modified:5.5 /10 – I really think there is some potential to this card, but it will require a near perfect build: there isn’t raw, reliable power to fall back on.

Limited: 6/10 – A bit small but forces the opponent to keep their Bench low or create a powerhouse. The fact that it only needs one actual Psychic Energy makes it easy to work into multi-color decks.
 
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