2012-10-17 DRV Kyurem 21

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[gal=53682]2012-10-17 DRV Kyurem 21[/gal]​

 

[Fox_Master51]

FIRST!

Given that Dragon Claw uses all :colorless:, it could be a tech in just about anything. I think most effectively in a Blastoise deck, along with it's NV counterpart, as a Dragon counter hitting for 120 (which seems to be the average output for that deck anyway). JUST enough to KO some, but not all, Dragons. So PlusPower may be in order.

I'm gonna give it 7/10, just cuz it has some potential.

I also give it 8/10 for art. Kinda cool looking.

 

[ArceusRules]

This card isn't very good. HP 130 is not bad. It's not easy to 1 shot, unless it's taken down by another Dragon Type. But it takes 2 or 3 Energies to do Dragon Claw and 3 or 4 Energies to do Blizzard (90 and mild spread). That's bad! Darkrai EX is way better, because it hits for 90 and snipes for 30 to 1 of your opponent's benched Pokémon. Dealing 30 to a solo benched Pokémon is better than dealing 10 to all benched Pokémon. I'm sorry, but Glaciate Kyurem is still the best. Outrage can increase in attack power when Kyurem is taking a beating and Glaciate Spreads 30 to ALL of your opponent's Pokémon for less attack cost than this slow Kyurem. Only 3 Energies. Plus very few people run Metal Decks or even Metal Techs, so Glaciate Kyurem is safe from Metal Weakness. More people are running Dragon now, because it's new and exciting. And the fact that it takes 2 different energies, is bad too.

Weakness: Bad, because more people are running Dragon now. Especially FluffyChomp and RayEel.
Resistance: None, but that's normal for a Dragon
Retreat: Okay. 2 is semi heavy, but that's what Switch is for, right?

Overall 3/10 for this card.

 

[RogueListers]

Fox Master, you're not supposed to claim first any more.

This card isn't very good. HP 130 is not bad. It's not easy to 1 shot, unless it's taken down by another Dragon Type. But it takes 2 or 3 Energies to do Dragon Claw and 3 or 4 Energies to do Blizzard (90 and mild spread). That's bad! Darkrai EX is way better, because it hits for 90 and snipes for 30 to 1 of your opponent's benched Pokémon. Dealing 30 to a solo benched Pokémon is better than dealing 10 to all benched Pokémon. I'm sorry, but Glaciate Kyurem is still the best. Outrage can increase in attack power when Kyurem is taking a beating and Glaciate Spreads 30 to ALL of your opponent's Pokémon for less attack cost than this slow Kyurem. Only 3 Energies. Plus very few people run Metal Decks or even Metal Techs, so Glaciate Kyurem is safe from Metal Weakness. More people are running Dragon now, because it's new and exciting. And the fact that it takes 2 different energies, is bad too.

Weakness: Bad, because more people are running Dragon now. Especially FluffyChomp and RayEel.
Resistance: None, but that's normal for a Dragon
Retreat: Okay. 2 is semi heavy, but that's what Switch is for, right?

Overall 3/10 for this card.

I think you're overlooking its status as a BBP that isn't an EX. It's quite good given it's got the highest HP of basic non-EX dragons, it one-shots dragon EX's, and it's a very splashable CCC-attacker


Now all that said, in the current meta, it's quite mediocre. Not nearly bad enough to warrant 3/10, but not good enough to join Ray at 9/10.

I think I'd rate it at 7/10, but it has potential to go up and also down. Regular Kyurem is definitely better

 

[Shen]

This has lots of potential, if only because it's Dragon. It has a great type advantage over many big decks, and being a basic means you don't lose much room running it. Its first attack makes it very splashable since it's completely colorless, but it's short of OHKOing any fully evolved Dragons save Ray and Altaria (but Altaria is easy to KO anyways). In a deck playing PlusPowers, however, you can Potentially OHKO Garchomp as well.

Its true potential, IMO, would lie in its second attack. Expensive, sure, but if a deck is able to pay for it, it can OHKO any Dragon currently in the format. If Blastoise ends up being a competitive player, Kyurem is a big candidate for the deck. Playing Prisms along with Water in the deck lets Kyurem charge up in one turn, AND its not ex which means 1.) it's not a two prize sacrifice and 2.) it can get through Sigilyph (which it just happens to OHKO). It seems situational but Kyurem does have great coverage.

Of course, you probably wouldn't play a deck starring Kyurem as the main attacker. What Kyurem does is nice, but 90 still isn't enough to deal with (most) ex's.

7.5/10

 

[Fox_Master51]

Fox Master, you're not supposed to claim first any more.

This card isn't very good. HP 130 is not bad. It's not easy to 1 shot, unless it's taken down by another Dragon Type. But it takes 2 or 3 Energies to do Dragon Claw and 3 or 4 Energies to do Blizzard (90 and mild spread). That's bad! Darkrai EX is way better, because it hits for 90 and snipes for 30 to 1 of your opponent's benched Pokémon. Dealing 30 to a solo benched Pokémon is better than dealing 10 to all benched Pokémon. I'm sorry, but Glaciate Kyurem is still the best. Outrage can increase in attack power when Kyurem is taking a beating and Glaciate Spreads 30 to ALL of your opponent's Pokémon for less attack cost than this slow Kyurem. Only 3 Energies. Plus very few people run Metal Decks or even Metal Techs, so Glaciate Kyurem is safe from Metal Weakness. More people are running Dragon now, because it's new and exciting. And the fact that it takes 2 different energies, is bad too.

Weakness: Bad, because more people are running Dragon now. Especially FluffyChomp and RayEel.
Resistance: None, but that's normal for a Dragon
Retreat: Okay. 2 is semi heavy, but that's what Switch is for, right

Sorry. I wasn't informed about the "first" thing

Anyway, from what I've seen, the only Dragon deck that has held steady thus far is Darkrai/Hydreigon and it's not really a Dragon deck per se so much as a Darkness deck. Same goes for RayEels. FluffyChomp actually declined in popularity. So with a little support this card may surprise you. Yeah NV Kyurem is better overall, I never said it wasn't. But this Kyurem is still has potential. Plus Dragon Claw will be used over Blizzard so thats a non issue. Like I said it might see play in Blastoise decks. I'll let you figure it out.

Peace

 

[Broken Pokemon EX]

As of right now this card is quite mediocre. It's worth is really determined by what becomes popular in the meta. If we see some sort of 120HP Dragon Type pokemon emerge and start to dominate the meta, or if a certain deck has a problem against said emergent dragon type then this card will most certainly see play as a tech.

Bottom line it will never have a deck built around it and it's use as a tech is just totally determined by what becomes popular.

7 (maybe even a 6.5)/10