Alex Frezza and 2010 National Champion Con Le Banned!!!
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psychup2034
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It is very possible that the individual posting this does not want to use their name because they do not want to face the repercussions of revealing this information. Given that this piece of information would logically explain why they got banned, I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss it. Anonymous information is often used to solve crimes or in other types of investigation, and this piece of anonymous information certainly could explain a lot of what's going on.
Bilbo Baggins
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true, but the Organizer that was asked would then see that what they asked did happen and report the two. Would explain why they put in effort to report the two.
Heyfonteleaks
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"This was mentioned to Michael Brigham as a joke because the topic of play points came up in discussion. It was not a question of what would happen, A JOKE that must have been taken to heart by him seeing this now. The text is definitely a little twisted hear to make it sound like this was some evil plot that we sat in our basements planning forever to gain a single PLAY POINT that is not even a necessity in the final add up of play points." -Con Le on Facebook.
Now that we've established that my post wasn't a load of crap posted by trolling Anonymous...
There were other people there obviously. Don't blame Mike for this. I've met him, he's a nice guy and wouldn't incriminate or "twist" what Alex and Con are saying.
"Did you hear the joke that was made? "If there was 2 Con Le at a event, Alex you can be Con Le two" -Con Le on Facebook
This was not the joke in question. Again, I didn't hear it, but I know someone who did. That person obviously knows what they are talking about. No?
Now that we've established that my post wasn't a load of crap posted by trolling Anonymous...
There were other people there obviously. Don't blame Mike for this. I've met him, he's a nice guy and wouldn't incriminate or "twist" what Alex and Con are saying.
"Did you hear the joke that was made? "If there was 2 Con Le at a event, Alex you can be Con Le two" -Con Le on Facebook
This was not the joke in question. Again, I didn't hear it, but I know someone who did. That person obviously knows what they are talking about. No?
psychup2034
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Can you find out from said person what the "joke" was, and post it anonymously?
Heyfonteleaks
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The person just told me it is a noticeably different "joke" than what was actually said. He isn't responding anymore.
I think the Facebook video basically shows how fabricated the story was. After deck building Con said he left, when Alex sitting in his player roster seat basically means he was Con throughout the entire event, including deck building. Even the fact that Gino posted those videos shows that Alex was bold enough to call himself Con Le for a day.
TLDR Gino shoots his friends in the feet with his arrogance.
jaws_is_ra
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If this process is the same as when a person is removed from being a league leader then all it is you send them your side of the story by mail.
Professor Dav
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And they have the same opportunity to send a letter back.
Thank you,
Pokemon Support
Is there anyway you can discuss what sort of investigation Pokemon does before issuing a ban or what factors contribute to length of time?
r3skyline
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Not sure but this sounds like the army.
NCOs are in charge of lower enlisted. Whatever order they give is just an echo from an officer. So whatever an NCO says to do, we do because they are the voice of the officer while they are not present.
Same thing with TOs and such. Whatever they say, goes. They are the ones setting up these pre releases and tournaments and as long as they are lawfully carrying out their duties, all must follow their rules.
If its known to not do this, why would someone do this? When I heard about the need to stay and participate to receive my last packs, I followed those rules even though I really didn't want to stay, but I wanted those extra packs.
Actually, if its a rule that most TOs put forth, and players willingly go against it, they just bypassed their warning and should expect to receive a more severe punishment.
NCOs are in charge of lower enlisted. Whatever order they give is just an echo from an officer. So whatever an NCO says to do, we do because they are the voice of the officer while they are not present.
Same thing with TOs and such. Whatever they say, goes. They are the ones setting up these pre releases and tournaments and as long as they are lawfully carrying out their duties, all must follow their rules.
If its known to not do this, why would someone do this? When I heard about the need to stay and participate to receive my last packs, I followed those rules even though I really didn't want to stay, but I wanted those extra packs.
Actually, if its a rule that most TOs put forth, and players willingly go against it, they just bypassed their warning and should expect to receive a more severe punishment.
This whole thing could have just been avoided if there was no play point requirement to play in U.S. Nationals. The fact that there is and that a ban like this can occur are prime examples of the many illogical decisions being made.
The fact that a former U.S. National Champion even has to qualify for play points is a joke in itself. You're sending the wrong message as a company when you don't let your former champions play in an event which your representatives have been quoted as saying will always be an open event before.
The actions being taken regarding this individual case are so blown out of proportion for a "crime" at a Pre-Release. As a company, you can't give such a harsh punishment for an event that you have watered down to a point where there is no competitiveness anymore. Pre-Releases don't even count for anything!
Even if Con and Alex's bans are shortened and/or lifted (and they should be), this will not change my and many other's opinions of this company today. Mistake after mistake has been made and the inconsistencies continue on with no consequences.
The fact that a former U.S. National Champion even has to qualify for play points is a joke in itself. You're sending the wrong message as a company when you don't let your former champions play in an event which your representatives have been quoted as saying will always be an open event before.
The actions being taken regarding this individual case are so blown out of proportion for a "crime" at a Pre-Release. As a company, you can't give such a harsh punishment for an event that you have watered down to a point where there is no competitiveness anymore. Pre-Releases don't even count for anything!
Even if Con and Alex's bans are shortened and/or lifted (and they should be), this will not change my and many other's opinions of this company today. Mistake after mistake has been made and the inconsistencies continue on with no consequences.
ShadowCard
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Scizor, there was a lot in your post and I'm not trying to debate it but I would like you to support the sentences I've quoted. What other games (card games, sports games, any games) allow former champions to bypass a qualifying bar that everyone else is expected to meet for an event?
losjackal
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There are 1,764 Masters in the United States who have 15 Play! Points right now. A former champion who had any passing interest in playing this year would have at least 15 points too. The fact is, he didn't play at all this year, and now he was scrambling to earn enough in time. And bending the rules apparently was part of that.
The wrong message would be sent if POP let players get away with manipulating the Play! Point system.
The wrong message would be sent if POP let players get away with manipulating the Play! Point system.
Mystery Thing
Administrator
The requirement is (quite publicly) there so that you don't have utter newbies playing Nationals. How would you like it if you got paired in R1 against somebody playing a theme deck? Thanks to the computer pairing you with that player, your resistance is instantly kaput for the entire tournament. That there is a requirement is perfectly acceptable; it makes sure that people need to a) know how to play, and b) have been playing in that year to get into Nationals.
Since sports analogies were all the rage earlier, would it make any sense at all for the Super Bowl / Stanley Cup / MLB winner to get a bye into the playoffs the next season/every season thereafter? Of course not. They still all have to play the season to be allowed to get into the big event at the end.
It's not Pokémon who is keeping people without enough PP out, it's those players who didn't bother to show up to any events throughout the year who are keeping THEMSELVES out. If we only count to BFLs as an arbitrary cutoff point for numbers of events, and assume no person would do 2 PRs in the same set, there are:
BRs: 6*1 = 6
CCs: 4*2 = 8
STPRs: 4*3 = 12
PRs: 4*1 = 4
League: 8*1 = 8
That's 38 available points. If you add in the one non-premier event per month, that's 50 points. If you're actively playing throughout the year, it would IMO be a challenge to NOT have enough points to play. 8 league sessions (remember, you only need to show up once in any given session), 4 prereleases, 1 BR, and 1 CC gives you your 15 points. That's 14 days. Over the course of the entire year. Allowing for lots of travel, and you could theoretically get that as low as 6 days within BFLs (4 STP/R, 1 CC, 1 BR), or 5 days ignoring BFLs (5 STP/R).
tl;dr: Short of like, soliders on tour who are gone serving for a massive hunk of the year, I don't have any pity at all for people who fail to get enough PPs to play in Nats.
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As a side note, because I know r3skyline is in the Army and I am in the navy, and while we have the attention of a TPCi representative; It would be nice for some sort of waiver for those of us who play and try to earn the play points while being deployed for up to 9 months out of the year. Now this doesn't apply to me this year as I am moving to Japan but I know a few of my shipmates who play and there is no way for them to get 15 play points this season. I don't think the number is unfair I actually enjoy the requirement and I bet Nats is a better tourney then ever. However it would still be interesting to bring this debate up to see what they could do about this.
Vegeta ss4
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I being the Navy makes me agree with Setstage on this one. Being in the military equals an unstable lifestyle. Constant underway,, random testing cycles, and many other things. It is hard for military to get points.
Anyone can get waivers for late bills. Being in the military a simple presentation of orders for a deployment forces a pause on all bills, with the exception of a house payment or rent. Everything else by law has to be paused.
In the military, we have over 500 different official documents stating we are in the military. I think a simple military verification and training report should suffice for TPCi . If you have anymore questions, feel free to PM me.
Anyone can get waivers for late bills. Being in the military a simple presentation of orders for a deployment forces a pause on all bills, with the exception of a house payment or rent. Everything else by law has to be paused.
In the military, we have over 500 different official documents stating we are in the military. I think a simple military verification and training report should suffice for TPCi . If you have anymore questions, feel free to PM me.
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