Altaria FTW

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  1. Ra2xse

    Ra2xse New Member

    4 Pachirisu

    3-3 Altaria GE

    2-2 Gyarados MT

    2-2 Claydol

    2-2 Crsselia Lv.X GE
    4 Celio
    4 Bebe
    3 Roseanne
    2 TGW
    4 Drage's Stadium
    4 Leftovers
    2 NM
    1 Warp Point
    4x DRE
    2x Scramble
    3x WP
    3x Water
    2x Psychic

    Strategy is to prevent 40 Damages (Altaria's attack and Drage's Stadium) and then Heal like 20-30 Damages (Leftovers and Cresselia's POWER(s)). Good against GG, Gallade need's to flip Prizes to even touch my Altaria, 4 Prizes for a KO because Altaria prevents 40 damages and Heal 20-30 =60-70 damage's away in one turn. Gallade hit's 60-50 whitout flipping prizes so it's not an broblem. Gardevoir hits 50-60 and i prevent the 40 and then heal only 10 (leftovers) so it's 10 or nothing....
    Last edited: May 8, 2008
  2. ryanvergel

    ryanvergel New Member

    What's your answer to latilock?
  3. vanderbilt_grad

    vanderbilt_grad New Member

    Why would he need one? Altaria gets damage reduction via attack not body.

    Ra2xse I've tested several similar concepts. The biggest problems tend to be special conditions (I see your Holon WP) and effects like Warp Point. I'm going to be trying a Cess based version at some point too. Cresselia is great but I keep thinking that the disurption would be worth it.
  4. ryanvergel

    ryanvergel New Member

    I was thinking of the old altaria for some reason.

    I don't think an 80hp attacker with no energy acceleration and a 60 damage attack can make it in this format. Besides garchomp you're never hitting weakness and there are so many other decks that just outspeed this deck.

    Empoleon will simply 60/60 your bench all day and bypass altaria. Magmortar will just burn you and hit the bench and kill you that way. GG has a billion tricks, and I just don't think 80hp will do anything. Dusknoir also obliterates altaria, as it has resistance and lays damage counters. Then you have stuff like eevees which could be a decent matchup (not considering the fact that they have more hp/higher damage, etc)..

    Altaria just doesn't seem good vs any of the other archetypes.
  5. Ardoptres

    Ardoptres New Member

    No Boost? :S

    Add those.
  6. vanderbilt_grad

    vanderbilt_grad New Member

    It's actually not bad against G&G Ryan. I agree that the new Emoleon would do exactly what you describe and furthermore that it has trouble vs basic attackers (Ho-oh, Moltres, etc.) and high scale damage (loaded Magmortar, Infernape, etc.). In these cases it's first attack tends to come into play & it's flippy.

    I thought about boost in mine Ardoptres ... but IMHO it doesn't work well here. Boost is great for THAT turn but what about the next one? I usually had more success with DRE than Boost. If you had Leafeon level X here or some other energy acceration then maybe boost, but without it DRE is the play.
  7. Ra2xse

    Ra2xse New Member

    I added in 2-2 Gyarados MT for Magmortar, it also combos well with my Cresselia's....
  8. vanderbilt_grad

    vanderbilt_grad New Member

    That's very like one of the three lists I tested then. It was basically Arithmetic with Altaria instead of Banette.
  9. Ra2xse

    Ra2xse New Member

    It's and Banette doesent do anything on Arthimetic, it just kill's GG/PLOX and Blisseys, and Marios (if you find 1 from somewhere... :p)
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