I understood your question. How can your distributor sanction tournaments in which break the floorrules and could not be sanctioned. I think you said that your distributor was doing that to make it look like alot was going on where you live, correct?
Are you still Professor? See my last post and be warned.
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Rainbowgym
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Yes and now the answer!
You understood the question, so what about the answer.
You understood the question, so what about the answer.
It sounds like the person who gave the answer didn't understand the question. I understand both the question and the answer, but if I didn't know about your distributor sanctioning things just to make things look good(when in truth the events could not be sanctioned), I wouldn't understand the question either.
Rainbowgym
Active Member
You scored 10 points, you go up for the next round.
You didn't follow the international discussion and had enough on 2 topics to understand me.
Now next round.
Explain me why the writer of this answer is not understanding my question.
This answer came from MR. Nack and he is HEAD INTERNATIONAL OP and in that position fully informed. Whu doesn't he understand it?
You didn't follow the international discussion and had enough on 2 topics to understand me.
Now next round.
Explain me why the writer of this answer is not understanding my question.
This answer came from MR. Nack and he is HEAD INTERNATIONAL OP and in that position fully informed. Whu doesn't he understand it?
Well to the common eye, your question does sound kind dumb. Not trying to be mean, but it's the way you phrased it. A regular person would only see, "Why can the distributor sanction tournaments?", which makes no sense. The answer was, "Why can they not?" Because in all cases, they should be able to.
But in reality, you actually asked, "Why can the distributor sanction tournaments that cannot be sanctioned because they break some of the pokemon floorrules?" which most likely the Head International OP didn't understand. Your statement would have made more sense if it had been followed by the information about your distributor sanctioning tournaments just so it looks good, and looks like there is alot going on in your area.
The way I would have phrased it would be:
Q: Many tournaments and events people run in my area do not abide by the pokemon floor rules. Because of that, they cannot be sanctioned. But my distributor sanctions them anyways just so at first glance there looks to be alot of good events going on in my area. How is that possible, and how can this be stopped? This makes it seem like there are no problems in my area with events and tournaments even though there are many.
But is just how I would have written it. I do ask, Rainbowgym, is english your native language, because if not, you are typing it very well. I can more or less understand what you say but I have to think about it for a second.
But in reality, you actually asked, "Why can the distributor sanction tournaments that cannot be sanctioned because they break some of the pokemon floorrules?" which most likely the Head International OP didn't understand. Your statement would have made more sense if it had been followed by the information about your distributor sanctioning tournaments just so it looks good, and looks like there is alot going on in your area.
The way I would have phrased it would be:
Q: Many tournaments and events people run in my area do not abide by the pokemon floor rules. Because of that, they cannot be sanctioned. But my distributor sanctions them anyways just so at first glance there looks to be alot of good events going on in my area. How is that possible, and how can this be stopped? This makes it seem like there are no problems in my area with events and tournaments even though there are many.
But is just how I would have written it. I do ask, Rainbowgym, is english your native language, because if not, you are typing it very well. I can more or less understand what you say but I have to think about it for a second.
Rainbowgym
Active Member
To clear up something else
Meaby I had to put it up this way
So now as we are independent and Unofficial Organizers we have non relation what so ever with OP AS ORGANIZER.
Because the way PUI interpet the original part, should mean that we also decline our POP ID as players. Which we didn't, like we didn't decline our Prof status.
Which means we can't play anymore at official prereleases, CC or whatever. (This is also part of OP)
I started a new topic and anyone really interested to reveal were "misreadings/mistranslations" were made please follow and reply.
Meaby I had to put it up this way
So now as we are independent and Unofficial Organizers we have non relation what so ever with OP AS ORGANIZER.
Because the way PUI interpet the original part, should mean that we also decline our POP ID as players. Which we didn't, like we didn't decline our Prof status.
Which means we can't play anymore at official prereleases, CC or whatever. (This is also part of OP)
I started a new topic and anyone really interested to reveal were "misreadings/mistranslations" were made please follow and reply.
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NoPoke said:
I was surprised to see that I knew so many of the California profs., even those from farther flung parts of this enormous state. There are a few who have moved on and will possibly drop off the list after March, but most continue to be active in the game, even in organizing and leading. We have a couple I know that have gone to College or moved on to other games, leaving PKMN behind.
Personally, initial question aside, I'm glad we're at the point in general where the lists of the Profs can start growing again and the program is starting to take its new shape.
Thanks for the info!
ukpokemonpro
New Member
I know that the problems in Holland were raised on more than one occassion with Mr Nack, I know that because we raised them too when we realised how the distributor was cutting some of the most successful TO's and Professors off from support.
There are issues on both sides but it should be resolved by now and this all could have been avoided if only PUI will admit that sometimes distributors need to be called to public account and that heads need to be banged together, face to face meetings arranged and if needed the law stated very firmly.
The lack of goodwill in Holland between the Distributor and the TOs should have been addressed and even now action should be taken unless we accept that International OP is about Spin and Gloss and no real content... So running events no matter how they break the rules is more important than running real events..
There are issues on both sides but it should be resolved by now and this all could have been avoided if only PUI will admit that sometimes distributors need to be called to public account and that heads need to be banged together, face to face meetings arranged and if needed the law stated very firmly.
The lack of goodwill in Holland between the Distributor and the TOs should have been addressed and even now action should be taken unless we accept that International OP is about Spin and Gloss and no real content... So running events no matter how they break the rules is more important than running real events..
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Broken Lizard
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PUI enlists volunteer professors/To's/PTO's as public proponents for its brand.
Our sole function is to promote the game and to generate enthusiasm for it. We are encouraged to do everything we can to bolster the game and to make it even better than it already is.
Sure, there are problems that need to be addressed. Nothing in life is ever perfect, and many things are not even close. Certain aspects of the international OP situation are in need of work, but I'm sure PUI is interested in expanding the international market for the game. After all, PUI is a business.
PUI has had a tough task in recovering the game from some 'unfortunate missteps' by its previous producer. PUI has had to focus on stabilizing and expanding its base here in the US. The international OP program suffered neglect for years before PUI took it over. Reversing that neglect will require a huge input of time and resources. PUI can only do so much at one time.
Private, constructive input/criticism is valuable. However, a constant stream of public complaint and bashing are not compatible with the the goal of promoting the game. It's counterproductive and pointless. It will not help anyone's situation at all.
There is an old adage: "you catch more flys with honey than with vinegar".
Our sole function is to promote the game and to generate enthusiasm for it. We are encouraged to do everything we can to bolster the game and to make it even better than it already is.
Sure, there are problems that need to be addressed. Nothing in life is ever perfect, and many things are not even close. Certain aspects of the international OP situation are in need of work, but I'm sure PUI is interested in expanding the international market for the game. After all, PUI is a business.
PUI has had a tough task in recovering the game from some 'unfortunate missteps' by its previous producer. PUI has had to focus on stabilizing and expanding its base here in the US. The international OP program suffered neglect for years before PUI took it over. Reversing that neglect will require a huge input of time and resources. PUI can only do so much at one time.
Private, constructive input/criticism is valuable. However, a constant stream of public complaint and bashing are not compatible with the the goal of promoting the game. It's counterproductive and pointless. It will not help anyone's situation at all.
There is an old adage: "you catch more flys with honey than with vinegar".
Lizard,
I think we all agree on the fact that we want promote the game and do it better for every player.
I'm know PUI is a business and that they probably have interest in expending the international market for our game. We love our game and we want the same expension.
No, completely wrong ! Wizards did a good job for Pokemon in our countries and when they've quit OP, the situation was far from beeing bad.
Except maybe in France where Wizards France had left the Pokemon world, I think players and TO's were happy with Wizards in Europe, even if some problems have occured maybe because of people (Wizards UK) in offices than the company itself.
I don't want to spend time in comparing the past and the present, but I may assure you that many people in Europe feel that the neglect is now, and not before.
Right, and that's one of the reasons why I've proposed 'Team Europe Returns' (see appropriate topic).
I'm sure it will be more productive to talk in the name of a community and that in positive and constructive terms.
I think we all agree on the fact that we want promote the game and do it better for every player.
I'm know PUI is a business and that they probably have interest in expending the international market for our game. We love our game and we want the same expension.
No, completely wrong ! Wizards did a good job for Pokemon in our countries and when they've quit OP, the situation was far from beeing bad.
Except maybe in France where Wizards France had left the Pokemon world, I think players and TO's were happy with Wizards in Europe, even if some problems have occured maybe because of people (Wizards UK) in offices than the company itself.
I don't want to spend time in comparing the past and the present, but I may assure you that many people in Europe feel that the neglect is now, and not before.
Right, and that's one of the reasons why I've proposed 'Team Europe Returns' (see appropriate topic).
I'm sure it will be more productive to talk in the name of a community and that in positive and constructive terms.
Broken Lizard
New Member
Michel said:
Perhaps I had the wrong impression then. I simply remember dozens of threads on the WotC boards that were nothing more than complaints about international OP. Now that I remember it better, it did seem as though the majority of the difficulty was in the UK.
In any event, I'm glad there is a move to a positive tone. I hope it produces good results.
PokeWisconsin
New Member
I also remember many threads on the Wizards boards concerning OP in foreign countries. I'm sure PUI has heard the concerns and are working to support play worldwide.
Master_Prof_Juggie
New Member
Giday
I have a seperate link for professors within my TO area on MY POKEMON.
It too shows only the other professors in New Zeland, currently numbering 7.
It would be nice to see other countries.
I have a seperate link for professors within my TO area on MY POKEMON.
It too shows only the other professors in New Zeland, currently numbering 7.
It would be nice to see other countries.
Master_Prof_Juggie
New Member
Giday
Intl OP under Wotc ... or DCI as it was known.
For us here in New Zealand ... it was awesome. MTM & DMTM we're always friendly & done everything they could to help when i had a problem.
Support WAS provided 95% of the time when requested for tournaments & leagues.
The only down side was the lack of really big events like nationals & so on ...
BUT to be honest ... with approx 200 - 300 regular players in our country ...
I wouldn't have wasted the money on us, there are bigger markets out there that needed the support with big events.
What we got, was more than i expected.
Intl OP under Wotc ... or DCI as it was known.
For us here in New Zealand ... it was awesome. MTM & DMTM we're always friendly & done everything they could to help when i had a problem.
Support WAS provided 95% of the time when requested for tournaments & leagues.
The only down side was the lack of really big events like nationals & so on ...
BUT to be honest ... with approx 200 - 300 regular players in our country ...
I wouldn't have wasted the money on us, there are bigger markets out there that needed the support with big events.
What we got, was more than i expected.
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