Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

blissy deck lists/combos

Blissey has a REALLY hard time against Mario in general but specifics depend on the two builds.

If Blissey runs Holon FF then the odds shift back towards them. A really fast Blissey build can outspeed Mario even if it doesn't run the FF energy. If Blissey is run with a partner or a tech that can change things too.

If Mario runs Battle Frontier it tends to do better against some Blissey builds (mostly the ones that rely on the power & baby evolution or ones that run Drake's). More draw and searching helps too ... and not just againt Blissey.

I would put odds at around 65-35 in Mario's favor but it's really hard to generalize at this point.
 
vanderbilt_grad said:
Blissey has a REALLY hard time against Mario in general but specifics depend on the two builds.

If Blissey runs Holon FF then the odds shift back towards them. A really fast Blissey build can outspeed Mario even if it doesn't run the FF energy. If Blissey is run with a partner or a tech that can change things too.

If Mario runs Battle Frontier it tends to do better against some Blissey builds (mostly the ones that rely on the power & baby evolution or ones that run Drake's). More draw and searching helps too ... and not just againt Blissey.

I would put odds at around 65-35 in Mario's favor but it's really hard to generalize at this point.
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Does the FF really even help out that much though? Most of the time, even without weakness, Blissy would be KO'd in the same amount of hits as it would WITH weakness.
 
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Does the FF really even help out that much though? Most of the time, even without weakness, Blissy would be KO'd in the same amount of hits as it would WITH weakness.
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Actually, a Machop doing 20 with 1 will be 50 with 1 for weakness... so yeah, it helps.
 
vanderbilt_grad said:
Blissey has a REALLY hard time against Mario in general but specifics depend on the two builds.

If Blissey runs Holon FF then the odds shift back towards them. A really fast Blissey build can outspeed Mario even if it doesn't run the FF energy. If Blissey is run with a partner or a tech that can change things too.

If Mario runs Battle Frontier it tends to do better against some Blissey builds (mostly the ones that rely on the power & baby evolution or ones that run Drake's). More draw and searching helps too ... and not just againt Blissey.

I would put odds at around 65-35 in Mario's favor but it's really hard to generalize at this point.
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The Blissey around here have been running Holon FF and that is why they are beating the Fighting decks. Also the Drake. As Seinfeld says Everyone loves the Drake.
 
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Does the FF really even help out that much though? Most of the time, even without weakness, Blissy would be KO'd in the same amount of hits as it would WITH weakness.
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Not true.

Lucario is doing 40 + 30 = 70 for the two hit KO with weakness. Without weakness he has to hit FOUR times to KO Blissey unless he manages to pull a plus power or str charm or has already spread some damage.. Heck two Riolu Wild Kicks can KO Chansey with weakness.

For 1 energy Machamp can Revenge for 70 + 30 = 100 and then Revenge again for 20 + 30 and the KO.

In short not running FF just makes things easier for them.

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Blassari said:
How does Arcanine and Blissey work together?
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Arcanine L.48 – Fire – HP100
Stage 1 – Evolves from Growlithe

Poke-Power: Flame Dash
You can use this Power once during your turn, when you play this card from your hand to evolve 1 of your Benched Pokemon. Switch 1 of your Active Pokemon with this Pokemon. If you do, you may choose any number of Energy attached to the switched out Pokemon and attach them to this Pokemon.

[R][R][C][C] Burning Take-Down: 120 damage. Arcanine does 40 damage to itself.

Weakness: Fire (+30)
Resistance: none
Retreat: 2
 
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Wow! That's great with Blissey!

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But the self-DMG really hurts because of Empo and Gatr...
 
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... don't forget that you wiil choose to move both the {R} energy and the {Holon-FF} when Arcanine uses Flame Dash.
 
As long as Holon FF is in effect, you also have security that a surprise Lake Boundary will not be able to catch you out.
 
I'd run 3 cc and 2 bf. forget about running happiny, not worth it. bf is good not only to shut down catty, chomp, and mirrors, but also helps you get rid of crystal beach without running windstorm yourself.


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Another topic. Should Drake be run over Windstorm? What about Cessation Crystal? Which is more important? Can/Do you fit in both?
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blissey auto wins mario for several reasons
1. Blissey is a deck and mario isnt
2. With holon ff, mario reasonably maxes out at 70 with a revenge attack, where as blissey can reach much higher damage due to boost, strahg, and plus powers
3. Blissey sets up much more efficiently than mario does
 
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and even if they dont get the holon ff, you hit for 30 more damage
OOOOO terrifying
you still cant one shot a blissey, where as he can one shot a lucario
 
Ikari said:
Actually, a Machop doing 20 with 1 will be 50 with 1 for weakness... so yeah, it helps.
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Not really, it would still be a 3HKO. Besides machop will die the next turn, even with the weakness. Try lake boundary so that way, the lucario LV X or machamps revenge or dynamic punch can at least OHKO blissey.
 
against a blissey, you gotta get something spevial eirly game, like turn 3 empoleon 70, that should be a ko with pp. that will give some time. but the deck will be good
 
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