Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

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pokedan24

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I think Reshiram (blue flare) is going to see a spike in play with the release of the next couple of sets. Plasma Freeze will give us team plasma Chandelure, who accelerates :fire: energy from the deck. Megalo Cannon gives us many grass pokemon for Reshiram to hit for weakness. I'm already seeing Reshiram used more online (probably because he hits metal types for weakness), so I expect that to continue.

There's also a whole slew of stage 2s that have a chance now thanks to Cradilly. Dusknoir and Reuniclis might stand a chance. I could also see BW Serperior popping up. It's much easier to get 3 or 4 of those out with Cradilly and be healing 30 or 40 damage between turns.
 
pokedan24 said:
I think Reshiram (blue flare) is going to see a spike in play with the release of the next couple of sets. Plasma Freeze will give us team plasma Chandelure, who accelerates :fire: energy from the deck. Megalo Cannon gives us many grass pokemon for Reshiram to hit for weakness. I'm already seeing Reshiram used more online (probably because he hits metal types for weakness), so I expect that to continue.

There's also a whole slew of stage 2s that have a chance now thanks to Cradilly. Dusknoir and Reuniclis might stand a chance. I could also see BW Serperior popping up. It's much easier to get 3 or 4 of those out with Cradilly and be healing 30 or 40 damage between turns.
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Reuniclus? Has a chance? I laugh at the thought. Any stage 2 that has only 90HP is definetly in for a bad time. Dusknoir has no more chance than he already did, since he was only ever used in a couple of decks. Cradily is interesting but he isn't very bulky, and he isn't going to break everything (minus new PlasmaKiller Haxorus).

As for Reshiram, I see White Kyurem EX PLS getting paired with it, Chandelure, and Heatran, but only if the support is there. The format hates fire, we must realize this.
 
I don't see Cradily helping Dusknoir or Reuniclus, as it would be easier to get those guys out without Cradily. But anything that stacks (Serperior or Nidoking/queen) may be worth experimenting.
 
SolarPichu said:
I don't see Cradily helping Dusknoir or Reuniclus, as it would be easier to get those guys out without Cradily. But anything that stacks (Serperior or Nidoking/queen) may be worth experimenting.
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[DEL] Well, Cradily is slow and almost entirely luck-based to get out, so Seniors will play it. [/DEL]

Now srsly, it is slow and entirely luck-based. It won't help anything get out faster.
 
SolarPichu said:
I don't see Cradily helping Dusknoir or Reuniclus, as it would be easier to get those guys out without Cradily. But anything that stacks (Serperior or Nidoking/queen) may be worth experimenting.
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Yeah, now that I think about it, Reuniclis wouldn't be the best choice for the deck. Serperior would be much better and so would things like flygon, chandelure, and infernape. I could also see decks with multiple stage 2s standing a chance. A couple of ideas, Emboar/Charizard, Gothitelle/Gardevoir, Empoleon varients. There will be a different way to get them out that doesn't involve starting with low HP basics. Some other cards

Pcom: If Cradilly becomes a thing, stage 2s will be much more valuable in the deck.

Virizion (Both NV and EP): Non EX grass attackers for the grass deck.

Plasmazone: We'll have more supporters to take advantage of.

Stoutland: Ghestis can get rid of their items while stoutland blocks supporters.

Mew EX: Makes it much easier to use Cradilly's attack.
 
Pell said:
The format hates fire, we must realize this.
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Not true, as a player of a :fire: deck I've done quite well with a rather unrefined list. To write off a deck 'because the format hates it,' when it hasn't been tried too actively since NXD is ridiculous. Actual results > Theorymon
 
psychup2034 said:
No-one thought Reuniclus had a chance when it first came out either...
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The situation is far different, as every main deck in the format either shuts it down or OHKOs it. :/





TheRolesWePlay said:
Not true, as a player of a :fire: deck I've done quite well with a rather unrefined list. To write off a deck 'because the format hates it,' when it hasn't been tried too actively since NXD is ridiculous. Actual results > Theorymon
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Not seeing the data.

"Actual results" aren't being given. Where are the wins? Where are the undisputible numbers?


pokedan24 said:
Yeah, now that I think about it, Reuniclis wouldn't be the best choice for the deck. Serperior would be much better and so would things like flygon, chandelure, and infernape. I could also see decks with multiple stage 2s standing a chance. A couple of ideas, Emboar/Charizard, Gothitelle/Gardevoir, Empoleon varients. There will be a different way to get them out that doesn't involve starting with low HP basics. Some other cards

Pcom: If Cradilly becomes a thing, stage 2s will be much more valuable in the deck.

Virizion (Both NV and EP): Non EX grass attackers for the grass deck.

Plasmazone: We'll have more supporters to take advantage of.

Stoutland: Ghestis can get rid of their items while stoutland blocks supporters.

Mew EX: Makes it much easier to use Cradilly's attack.
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Going to address long post in a list.

1. Reuniclus is bad. End of story.

2. Seeing as Serperior is Grass, ofc it will be in some Cradily variants.

3. Flygon isn't good enough to be worth it. 10 spread every turn just isn't cutting it.

4. Chandelure/Infernape aren't grass. Are you planning on running Blend?

5. Charizard isn't a good attacker, usnt fire, and a better partner for Emboar is White Kyurem EX BCR.

6. Gardevoir and Gothitelle have almost no synergy, you have no attacker, and Gothitelle isn't very good either.

7. Empoleon is already not bad. You can most likely get it out before you get Cradily out, honestly.

8. Pcomm is a must.

9. Virizion is grass, so yeah.

10. PlasmaZone is meh, due to the fact that its HP isn't great and they don't stack.

11. Stoutland I can kinda see, because he is colorless, but he also kinda has bad HP, a lame, overpriced attack, and a bad weakness.

12. Mew EX has less HP for an extra prize. Is it REALLY worth it when you can just send Lileep back to your deck with its ability?
 
the only way i see a cradily deck working is after the format changes and only if that format is DrX-on. without pokemon catcher it may be viable. in a format with no catcher (other than genesect) the hp of bench sitters wont be as huge of a concern. especially if you play max potion.
 
Pell said:
Not seeing the data.

"Actual results" aren't being given. Where are the wins? Where are the undisputible numbers?
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Simple there is none, because few people have tried to play anything outside the norm.

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psychup2034 said:
Every main deck in the format also OHKOed Reuniclus when it first came out.
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There was also more snipers back then as well.
 
Pell said:
12. Mew EX has less HP for an extra prize. Is it REALLY worth it when you can just send Lileep back to your deck with its ability?
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Usually no, but Cradilly has two retreat. Mew EX lets you use the same attack and then switch out to something else afterwards. It can also copy other attacks.

Both Chandelures and Infernape are blend compatible. NV Chandelure doesn't even need to attack.

And one I forgot to mention, Old Amber Aerodactly. Use Caitlin to put Dactly at the bottom of your deck and then bring it out with Old Amber. Much more reliable than using a flippy stadium. (though that could end up seeing more play as a backup or counter stadium).
 
Reuniclus and dusknoir have some of the best abilities in the game and will only get better as more cards are out there that can utilize them. Right now, b/c catcher, mewtwo, and darkrai play prevalent parts in our format they have not had their potential realizes.

I doubt that reuniclus will see a large rise in play, but if ppl ever figured out a way to make it and togekiss work I think you have a viable deck. Dusknoir has seen some rise in popularity due in part to its good pairing with empoleon, mewtwo, and landorous. Dusknoir has the ability to be good once catcher rotates (that's assuming that it is still in format at that time), but I don't know about reuniclus. A 30-40 hp basic evolution form is not good and I've yet to experiment with cradilly but I fear it may go the way of the etherdex engine- all hype and no show for it.

As far as other evolutions that have great abilities electrode (bicycle for free every turn) magnazone and klinklang will be nice additions to the list. Right now the format is just too fast to play large stage two attackers, but the added support that magnazone and electrode offer is too good to ignore. And klingklang has already shown that it can hang with some of the most competitive decks, we'll just have to see what we get in later sets that allows (or prevents) this card from blossoming.

Ninetales is good with a built in catcher ability and a great attack it's hard to ignore as well already seen some inclusion of this at decks at states, but its success has not been capitalized.
 
Gardy and Gallade have NO synergy?

That is most interesting to me. I guess, with your logic, Gengar/Vileplume must have had zero synergy as well.
 
Vegeta ss4 said:
Gardy and Gallade have NO synergy?

That is most interesting to me. I guess, with your logic, Gengar/Vileplume must have had zero synergy as well.
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Doesn't have no Synergy, just not worth playing the 2 together, as they don't compliment each other enough to make an impact. Also sharing the same evo line isn't as useful as it used to be with no BTS and new Rare candy rulings.
 
That's still makes no sense. The ability to boost an attacks strength is the synergy. By no means is the deck good, but to say it has NO synergy is ignorant.
 
I think first ticket could see play with next set. It will be possible to KO EXes on the first turn. With Lugia, Colress Machine, Deoxys, Lasers, and Plus power. And even doing 40-50-60 with Thunderus EX (without even needing lasers).

I see plus power increasing in play for similar reasons.
 
This is just sort of a note on Cradily, but FOSSIL MECHANICS

UGH

Yes, Caitlin will help, but you still have to get fossils in hand and Ghetsis can mess that up.

Also, you'd still have to run 8-ish or more basics to avoid crazy mulligans, and Lileep can't count.
 
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