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Counterfeits are thriving in general

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The most common type of fake I have seen are the ones with yellow borders. I always see them on ebay but by brother emailed them saying it was fake and they took it off and said thanks for letting us know.

It's redicluas on how many people don't know what a fake is.
 
DEOXEYS cool form 7777777 said:
It's redicluas on how many people don't know what a fake is.
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But some fakes are just so good, it's impossible to tell!

http://s576.photobucket.com/albums/ss203/XbabymarioX/?action=view&current=Haislotus.jpg

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People who don't play in official tournaments (which is most people who buy Pokemon cards) don't really care that much about fakes if it means they can get cool looking cards cheap.

It does hurt Nintendo if people buy fakes, but tracking them down and stopping them is really expensive so they could end up losing more money doing that than they do over people buying fake cards in the first place.
 
pat460 said:
But at the same time someone buying fakes might be someone who will later buy real cards. It would cost more to cath them then they loose from people not buying real cards.
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While I agree that it would cost to catch them, having an awareness article on the front page of go-pokemon would cost next to nothing.

Most of their customers are kids/parents. Kids are on a limited budget, and if little Timmy wastes his money on packs of fake cards, he wouldn't be able to afford a real pack. This adds up over time for Nintendo.

EDIT: Baby Mario, you're telling us that that Hais Lotus is a fake? I don't believe it!
 
There are many reasons why many companies rabidly protect their trademarks and intellectual property rights beyond just losing money on sales. Companies pay huge sums to intellectual property lawyers.

It would be interesting to know why Nintendo isn't pursuing counterfeiters more aggressively.
yoyofsho16 said:
Targeting the seller does nothing about this. The actual counterfeiter is hard to trace. A lot of people don't even know they're selling fakes.
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Targeting the seller is exactly how you can catch the actual counterfeiters. Each one is a lead, and there are a lot of them out there. Follow enough leads and you'll get somewhere.

The sellers who don't know that they're selling fakes might actually be the best sources of information, because they're victims too.
pat460 said:
Why would Nintendo care? They are a company that cares about making money, not spending it to protect you from your own stupidity in buying fakes.
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pat460 said:
But at the same time someone buying fakes might be someone who will later buy real cards. It would cost more to cath them then they loose from people not buying real cards.
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The potential consequences of allowing rampant counterfeiting go far beyond losing the sales of a few packs of cards.
 
SD PokéMom said:
who says that nintendo/TPCi *aren't* pursuing counterfeiters aggressively?
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Point taken.

I was considering saying something more like "It would be interesting to know why Nintendo isn't pursuing counterfeiters more aggressively, or if they are, why they're not making it more widely known." Guess I should have done so. :smile:
 
I know ebay isn't going care to much because if they take off a lot of listings thats money that they will never see. Thats the hole reson they want eveyone to use paypal on there now. If eveyone paid with money orders or checks then ebay wouldn't be able to get there money out of your sell, it's not much but they use it to pay there workers and keep the site up. I ended up with a fake yugioh card. It was a rare ultament blue eyes from 2005 trunaments and i was mad and that same person was selling a lot of them. So i know ebay don't stop them all that well.
 
EHLERZ5 said:
You can never tell what you are getting off ebay anyway.... They show you a picture of the REAL card and send you pathetic knockoffs.... I've been burned three times within the last 2 years.... EBAY does nothing to help you, I've already explored that avenue....
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And also another thing ebay offers sellers "stock photos" which are generic photos. Also sellers can simply take a real picture from google and post that as the pic which is shown to sellers. IMO ebay should not offer sellers "stock photos" simply due to the fact it gives counterfeiters an easy way to sell fakes under the radar since all you see is a pic of real card. In addition Nintendo and other companies may be able to limit counterfeiters and bootleggers here in the US and in Modern Countries but they really have no power to stop them in countries like China, the Philippines, etc. as many places may not have laws saying that you can't produce fakes. That part of the world is where most bootlegs and fakes come from. If the country where the fakes are produced don't care or even encourage it then there really isn't anything you can do at the source.
 
True and that suck for the rest of us that like to buy those things. Just like money in other countries people make fake money and send it here or use it in that country because US money is worth more then there money and they don't care untel the country trys to use it. Pokemon cards are like another forme of money and high dollar items if you make then you get the hole 100% of the profits from it.

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Dose any one know what the newer fakes look like other then the nonholo holo cards?
 
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totoro said:
Overall font look is still a pretty good way to ID fakes as is card stock feel--heck, we just saw some with a thicker card stock than a real card (which is backwards to what I'm normally used to.)
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High quality fake cards, with the accented e and non-bloated energy symbols, being sold for 1/3 the price of real cards? If fakes are getting made with better card stock, why can't real cards? :/

The King Of Magikarps said:
In addition Nintendo and other companies may be able to limit counterfeiters and bootleggers here in the US and in Modern Countries but they really have no power to stop them in countries like China, the Philippines, etc. as many places may not have laws saying that you can't produce fakes.
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I thought there was a news article in the not-so-distant past about Nintendo taking action against counterfeiters in Asia. SD PokeMom may be able to find the news article.
 
Just buy from decent eBay shops :)

If she says she is a real blonde then you know the cuffs n collars wont match, likewise If a deal is too good to be true it normally is.

:)
 
I've been scammed ONCE by ebay in Pokemon cards. They offered a Kingdra LA but it was a fake. border off, text wrong etc...
 
totoro said:
We have now seen plenty of fakes with the "é" so that test doesn't always work. Energy symbols are also now more correctly sized. Overall font look is still a pretty good way to ID fakes as is card stock feel--heck, we just saw some with a thicker card stock than a real card (which is backwards to what I'm normally used to.)
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Really? this is interesting.. Fake cards are always made on that more laminated paper stuff and have a glossy feel. Too bad the é was a great way of looking for fakes.
 
Pyro Entite said:
I know ebay isn't going care to much because if they take off a lot of listings thats money that they will never see.
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This could not be more wrong for one simple reason - credibility.

Credibility - the assurance that you're going to get an honest exchange - is the #1 thing that eBay has.

They care tremendously about these kinds of situations.
 
Well with better computers and printers being made evey day the hardest part is finding the paper that would mach the real ones. Soon the fakes are going to be as good as the real ones and wi'll never know what we have inless a grader can tell the differens between the real and fakes.
 
I have seen fake Rev Holos that are actually better than the real thing, but then thats not really that tough tbh
 
M<y hubby and I got burned on a HUGE mount of fake cards about 18 months agao, and they are easy to trace. From what I discovered, the bulk of the fakes come from China, but it is hard to stop as they're so many bootleggers out there doing it. That's also where the majority of the bootleg Ultraman, Godzilla, Kamen Rider Subtitled DVD sets come from as well. Tsuburaya (Owner/creator of Ultraman) Has been battling those guys for over 5 years in court, and nothing has come of it yet. We'll see what happens with Nintendo though, as they are MUCH bigger than Tsuburaya, Inc., and probably have much more expensive lawyers as well! ;)
 
I hope that drops the amount of fakes that we endup finding and hopefuly it will stop the fakes for a little and if Nintendo makes the cards some how imposable to counterfit like adding a holo stamp to all the cards in away that would make it a lot harder to bootleg that would be good for us and them and make it easyer to find fakes and maybe trace them.
 
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