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Curious on knowing what gym members think of graded Pokemon cards

Will-iam

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Alright, this thread is to start a conversation about grading pokemon cards through respectable grading companies such as PSA (Professional Sports Authenticators) and BGS (Beckett Grading System).

(I am sure by now one of the ways members of the gym identify me in a neutral fashion, more or less is the person who knows a little bit about PSA.)

I am interested in knowing about what people think of graded Pokemon cards, does anyone own any themselves or better yet graded a (in grading card terminology) 'raw-card'.

I will not say right out of the gates on my philosophy on grading Pokemon cards and what are its strengths and weaknesses, I would like to hear some opinions from pokegym members first.
 
I think it is very useful when wanting to sell card and make more money for your effort. Other than that I don't know too much about it, but I have only heard good things.
 
I will never get a card graded. It costs to much money for most cards. I don't expect that the return is worth how much it costs to get a card graded. I think it is a waste of money.

Drew
 
Frankly I only collect to play or sell, so as long as it's playable I'll use it, and as long as it's sellable I'll sell it.
I'm working on collecting Base Set/Jungle/Fossil, and yeah I'll try and get better specimens but I'm not going to indulge in what I see as a semi-futile effort to get some obscenely pristine cards. It's just not what I value.
 
I only think it's worth it for the rarest cards where you are targeting serious collectors. Otherwise a waste of money since most people don't know or care about the grading.
 
I will never get a card graded. It costs to much money for most cards. I don't expect that the return is worth how much it costs to get a card graded. I think it is a waste of money.

Drew

agree. the only thing I find it useful for is the best preservation you can get.

I've compared 7.5-8's to 10's of the same card and found the 7.5-8's in better condition.

The day they have an objective (machine) grader that can't be having a bad (just served with divorce papers) or good (i get to retire when i finish my shift today, yay!) day which makes the opinion on it so subjective, I will change my opinion.
 
Agreed with Wayne. If it can be machine done to be 100% accurate then chances are I'll get some stuff graded.

I do like the cases you get as they are the best protection but some of the prices aren't worth it.

Also, from what I've heard they aren't completly knowledgeable about cards, refusing to grade the PR Raichu, getting the years wrong on the Trophy Pika etc. This is a big put off for me as the only cards I have currently worth grading are the Sample set which they refuse to grade.
 
Well several posts after mine I can see that grading cards isn't that desirable and I'll agree half way.

this is my following list of agreements, disagreements and experiences of submitting cards to get graded.

1. I'm reading it is expensive and not 'worth' the price, I will 100% agree with cards that have an unknown distribution that come in packs you can buy ATM at your local card store or big-box stores. However IMO when it comes to cards not found in packs and have a very small distribution it may be 'worth' it, to simply add protection and prestige, the concept of adding price value increase shouldn't really factor in or it shouldn't factor in as a primary motive for getting Pokemon cards graded if you are planning on selling them quickly.

2. I also am seeing that grading card companies are 'subjective' and opinionated when it comes to what can be graded and what grade cards get and that as waynegg says in post#6 there are at times no distinction between upper mid-level grades and pristine/gem/perfect grades. (Now from personal experience I know of the problems and frustration of having cards refused to be graded for the simple fact that there isn't a picture in some pojo or beckett price guide, grading companies only authenticate that which they have an 'authority' to authenticate or see that what they have license to authenticate/grade if they see the card as I said in some sort of publication; I would like for that to change amongst grading companies, the only cards they shouldn't grade are counterfeits/forgeries they *grading companies* have the whereabouts to know the difference between an authenticate card and a non-authenticate card.) Now back to what waynegg stated about grades being subjected to the whim and not to the wisdom of the graders, this is in my experience a partially true statement. I have seen cards that got got mid-level grades but should have gotten graded slightly higher and some gems that I would say bordered on mint to gem for PSA, though all in all the grades are in usually a fair grade range I have yet to see something such as waynegg has stated about a 7.5 grade being no different than a 10 and am very curious on what grading company has done that, I know its not PSA since they don't have a '7.5' type of a grade, perhaps beckett? though that is doubtful also.

It would be nice to see a non opinionated device/machine that would allow fair and accurate grades since such a device/machine would border on AI, and for that is not plausible IMO to have something be perfect, and if one's card gets an 'unfair' grade you can send it back and yes that does cost money and time but for those who are obsessed with getting a fair grade that may be worth it.

As I stated above in this post the only cards worth getting graded are the really rare cards and that one shouldn't grade to try to flip for an immediate profit but to add 'prestige' and 'protection' and a graded pokemon card is a far better investment plan than a non graded pokemon card, perhaps not 'now' but later like much later my SSB No.1 trainer might fetch something like what the Topps 1952 Mickey Mantle gem mint card fetched which was $600,000, but yeah that would be after 5 generations at least are born, die and pass away, LOL. For me grading pokemon cards isn't about increasing value but appreciation and the nice feeling that years after I pass away the cards I have graded if taken care of will still be preserved and perhaps fetch a nice price for some lucky individual.
 
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It means that you send your card to them and they grade it on the condition of the card. Correct me if I'm wrong,
 
I'll admit, I know pretty much nothing about collecting, as I tend to use my cards lol. But, if you're seriously into collecting and stuff, I guess grading couldn't hurt.
 
At first I thought grading was useless then I bought my first graded card and saw the case that you get it in and understood why people grade their cards, you can not beat PSA. For lower priced cards it is probably pointless, but for the older set rares, and prize cards it is very useful.

For example, how many people have bought a shadowless card, or jungle.fossil/rocket card and the condition said mint, then when you get the card there is whitening all over. If you have not had this experience that is good, but I have numerous times, and when you buy a graded card you not only know the condition but it is official, and the case is brilliant, uv protection and everything.

Overall I think it is good but their fees could be lowered a bit but then again they are set for the baseball collectors whos cards far exceed the price of pokemon, but overall I would give grading a 8-9 :cool:
 
To answer post#13, yes basically you send a card into a grading company that insures the three following 'conditions' 1. Authenticity 2. condition 3. protection.

One should really only grade the following sort of Pokemon cards 1. those that are no longer in distribution for quite some time and have a second price market value of at least $80 and 2. certain promo and trophy cards, if anyone is interested I can determine with very slight margin of error whether or not if PSA will grade your card or not. I am not talking about whether or not a card is 'fake' but whether or not PSA sees it as 'legit'.

For those of you who don't own any PSA graded pokemon card/s, they're awesome!
 
For high cost cards, its a very good thing. For an example, I'll use Black Lotus, a very expensive Magic card.
Lotus usually sells for 800-900 when advertised as "good contition". However, when one was found graded at 10/10, it sold for $20,000. Grades can REALLY help in rare cards lol.
 
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