Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

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The Dark Toxicroak

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Today at my Cities a very strange thing happened to me and I was wondering if this was common or just a rare occurrence that just happened. At least 4 times when my opponents cut after a 6 pile shuffle they cut to a Dialga G. This wasn't me happening to draw a Dialga G out of the 7 cards, this was the Dialga G being the first card I drew off the top of my deck.

Pink Ultra-pro sleeves
Normal Non reverse Dialga G's
Only 2 in the deck.
6 piled every game

I thought this was just being lucky the first time it happened and then when it happened again right after
in the next match. It happened at least 2 other times this tournament.

What are the odds of this happening? Is there anyway to explain it? Has anything weird like this ever happened to you ?
 
Pokemon is to an extent, a luck based game. This isn't probable, but its not impossible. The odds are 1/30 eachtime (it doesn't affect the odds that you did it four times) So yeah... not probable but it's completely feasible
 
The odds don't change for each match but they do stack up.

For instance if all 4 of these were in a row then the odds would be 1/810,000.

How many matches did you play over the whole day?
 
Is one of the Dialga Gs in a brand new sleeve and the other sleeves are worn? This could be technically a marked card situation, but not that you could see it, however, I guarantee that you can feel it.
 
Take your deck and tap it against a hard surface a couple of times.
Now look at it from the side, paying attention to the tops of the sleeves. Does one sleeve "stand out", just a millimeter or so above the others?
If so, that could be your Dialga G.
And if so, you have a marked deck.

Note that "marked deck" does not make a judgment about your intent.
You need to fix it. If it gets discovered during an event, it could lead to a DQ.
 
It is curious... If you think about the mechanics of cutting then most players will lift the wide sleeve and thus place it on the bottom. Magicians have to practice cutting to a tapered card so that they can leave the chosen card on the top!

After you have checked your sleeves as per PokePops' directions please tell us what you found.
 
Multiple sleeves stuck out but not by a lot. None of them were the Dialgas. Also I played 10 games, 5 rounds and 5 games in top cut. All cards were sleeved at the same time with the exception of a few sleeves that I switched out during the tourney due to them splitting.

It happened twice in a row and the rest were just random.
I also tried to see if I could cut to it but never could. Often I would cut and level Xs would be the card to go on the bottom though.
 
dialga is a holo card, and if the rest of your deck is largely non-holo, the slightest curvature of the holo card can lead to the cards above it being bowed upwards- and people will be more likely to lift these already 'lifted' cards up, leaving the top card, or the card cut into, being that holo- dialga G.
 
thats a good point. I remember some horribly curved foils in earlier sets: they would curve along the long axis and could easily lift the cards above them.

For reference I've just checked two of our dialga decks (Rotom sleeves) and though there are many foils and a couple are slightly curved as individual cards when placed as a stack for a cut no curvature can be seen from the side and nor could I cut to the foils or nearby with any accuracy.
 
If holo cards bend it is usually because of the humidity or temperature of the area you store the cards....

If you dump your cards in water the foil will try to shrink but because of the adhesive which "destiny" bonds it to the cardboard which expands in order to allow the foil to shrink and make it look like a "u" (with the foil on the inside)

As Jason Maron once said "If you're cards looke like "U" bend them so it looks like "n" and it'll come out "-""

but back on topic Dextor the odds of doing it once is 1/30, twice in a row is 1 / 30^2

4 times out of ten....hmmm if I remember my math 30...

1 - (29/30)^6 =~ 0.175

right? no? Doesn't seem that improbable then again i probably forgot to carry the one...
 
Maybe, just maybe, this was that 1 out of such a such probability. I mean if you look at how many people play this game, i'd say it's bound to happen, eventually.
 
Yeah, like PokePop pointed out, the curled foil Dialga is probably the problem, thus the "marked cards" problem.
PokePop said:
Note that "marked deck" does not make a judgment about your intent.
You need to fix it. If it gets discovered during an event, it could lead to a DQ.
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Mike, with the changes to the Penalty Guidelines this season, a DQ is not the recommmended penalty. It's been lowered to multi-prize card and game loss for tier 1 and tier 2 respectively. :thumb:
 
My cards weren't marked trust me. I played 11ish games and this happened 4-5 times. It was freaky when it happened twice in a row thats all lol. Also just to point out a curled foil would make the cut right after Dialga so it would be on the bottom not the first card I drew.
 
The Dark Toxicroak said:
My cards weren't marked trust me. I played 11ish games and this happened 4-5 times. It was freaky when it happened twice in a row thats all lol. Also just to point out a curled foil would make the cut right after Dialga so it would be on the bottom not the first card I drew.
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no, you misunderstood. the foil creates a bow, and the cards ABOVE the holo (cards ABOVE dialga G) get pushed slightly upward, and that slight gap can make it easier to "cut there", leaving the cards ABOVE the bow as the cut. the opponent would place all cards above the DG to the left, and the DG and all cards below would go on top of that stack. DG is now the top card.

im willing to bet that a lot of yourcards are non-holo, but DGs only come in holo/reverse/popholo- so they will be quite likely to bend, especially a reverse or pop promo.

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Yeah, like PokePop pointed out, the curled foil Dialga is probably the problem, thus the "marked cards" problem.

Mike, with the changes to the Penalty Guidelines this season, a DQ is not the recommmended penalty. It's been lowered to multi-prize card and game loss for tier 1 and tier 2 respectively. :thumb:
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pokepop didn't point that out. he said that the SLEEVE with dialga might be the problem if it is slightly longer than the other cards.
 
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pokepop didn't point that out. he said that the SLEEVE with dialga might be the problem if it is slightly longer than the other cards.
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Yeah, I missed that. Slightly wider/longer sleeves might be the reason. Nevertheless, the penalty for this has been reduced from a DQ, so a DQ should not be considered except for repeated offenses or intentional cheating.
 
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