Dark Slowking Deck
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And you know it how? Obviously its not so strong, cause WPM himself wont play it. I really don't understand, why had you jump to this conclusion o fast. It would be nice to have a decklist cause then you know what you may encounter and prepare for it. Maybe it is way stronget than we think it is. Do you want the history to be repeated like last time with magma? This time we have info about what is being played in Japan, so we have to use it. I for one, would not use that deck, cause my Nationals are in like 3 weeks and I wouldnt be able to playtest enough.peachyoto said:
Logion: Its not your deck. Anybody can build anything he wants, so stop complaining,
I too want to learn about this deck. Mainly how can it ensure turn 2 Slowking with just rockets balls to directly find it.
I would personaly go with Dunsparce and Swoop! Cause I dont like being slaughtered second turn with zapdos.
Im just saying that we should definitely learn form what is played in japan, so we are not surprised at worlds like last year.
Logion: Yeah, and what? So he saw your deck, liked it and decided to built it. Now he's looking for suggestions.
I would personaly go with Dunsparce and Swoop! Cause I dont like being slaughtered second turn with zapdos.
Im just saying that we should definitely learn form what is played in japan, so we are not surprised at worlds like last year.
Logion: Yeah, and what? So he saw your deck, liked it and decided to built it. Now he's looking for suggestions.
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Logion said:
Would you stop your shenanigans? Thanks.
Oh what the heck. I'll post the combo the Japanese are using.
They are using Dark Slowking, Rocket's Meowth, and Rocket's Wobbuffet. When you look at them all together, you will be able to see the strategy.
Logion: That's what I was playing! I came up with this and should be credited as the creator of it in America!!!!
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Classic american thinking. Learn what is being played and tech against it.metagross said:
Teching can only get someone so far, real skill is what is needed. You can counter all you want but the better player will always come out on top. I doubt the Japanese will even play all the same decks this year, only reason they all played Magma is because it was a really good deck. I don't know the exact deck WPM is talking about but it doesn't even matter, from the sounds of it the deck hasn't fully proved itself to be really good yet. Metagames are different here than in Japan, Sally EX was really popular in Japan... didn't really happen here. I think Zappy is one of the biggest differences between our Metagames.
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Wow, just like I speculated, that idea has been talked about already. Although nobody has posted a list about it, it was talked about when the spoiler for TRR was found. It's not that good of an idea. Rocket's Meowth can only grab 1 item out of the deck, and mid-late game is an easy prize. Wobbuffet can only grab one out of the discard and put it in your hand, or can shuffle 3, which is really the only good thing about it. I feel the non-meowth/wobbuffet Slowking deck is much better. Theres actually a card in GS/SS called Slowking that allows you to search your deck for a Tool and put it in your hand. That could actually work well with this deck, but I feel it will work better with Primeape.
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Peachyoto: The guy is not even an american...
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Peachyoto: The guy is not even an american...
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They are playing Zapdos too. One of the Spring Road people used it (forgot if they came in 1st or 2nd). And yes, Sally ex is very popular over there. Many people are playing it.
I knew it! =p That's what I have been using but I actually just discovered something that might work better than Rocket's Meowth. (need to playtest it) Rocket's Wobb, why? =/ I like how it gets tools back and all but that is like a free prize for your opponent. I had Rocket's Wobb in my very first draft of this deck, but took it out because of that reason.
Prime, Meowth is used for the beginning of the game, not in the middle. It allows you to not mulligan a lot. Metagross, you don't run out of tools because you should have a great draw engine. Problems with this deck is that not only does Slowking only have 80HP, but if you get a bad draw it's really a bad draw. You're running lots of tools so you can easily just draw tools after another. Believe me I know. >_<
Prime, Meowth is used for the beginning of the game, not in the middle. It allows you to not mulligan a lot. Metagross, you don't run out of tools because you should have a great draw engine. Problems with this deck is that not only does Slowking only have 80HP, but if you get a bad draw it's really a bad draw. You're running lots of tools so you can easily just draw tools after another. Believe me I know. >_<
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ToysRUsKid
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lol.
lol.
Why even play the Meowth? By T2, you have 2 extra tools, whoopie! Just use a supporter to draw and you will most likely draw into 2 extra tools. Dunsparce is a better idea in my mind. It gets your slowpokes and maybe even a dunsparce to stall with. Meowth gets you tools, it doesn't help you setup at all. Meowth is a joke.
maybe the reason for Wobbufet might be Amnesia? It can be good against lots of stuff.
As for Meowth. I can see grabbing a Swoop! first turn so you can ensure slowpoke ready to evolve turn 2 and reduce mulligan chances a lot.
btw. are you going to post the link to that japanese spring road conference site? Just wondering.
As for Meowth. I can see grabbing a Swoop! first turn so you can ensure slowpoke ready to evolve turn 2 and reduce mulligan chances a lot.
btw. are you going to post the link to that japanese spring road conference site? Just wondering.
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Prime said:
mmk, just sit there, think. What can Meowth do, get out tools? How does Slowking attack? With Tools. HMMMM...
This may make an apperance by the Japanese players, it may not, I highly doubt it though.
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metagross said:
Why don't ya go look for it yourself like I did? It's difficult @ First, but once you just get one site, you have them all.
I still don't see the use of the Meowth other than a good use for POW! Each turn your getting 1 new tool from Meowth. Most likely, because your trying to setup too, you are spending your supporters on getting the slowpoke out and slowking. If you just run Dunsparce, you can fill your bench and use all your supporters to get out tools. Even if they take Meowth, you send up a Dark Slowking, it can only deal 100 with a dark and a strength charm and if they can deal 80, your sunk. So what if you POW up their magcargo and KO it, they KO you and you are on the run now against something you can't OHKO.
Dark Umbreon said:
May i know where DRE and Rare Candy AND R.Wobufat???
This can be a one turn kill deck!!!
But ur opp needs to start first.....
If u get a perfect hand for the first turn......
Example..
Dark slowking x1
Slowpoke x1
Rare candy x1
DRE x1
Any tools or Rocket's .... x4
This is the perfect hand.......
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Dark Umbreon
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Hi dEsCrOw,
Your hand would need to look like this:
Double Rainbow
Dark Slowking
Rare Candy
Solwpoke
two tools
Calculate the odds of such a hand. Now determine the odds to obtain one out of eight basics in addition to Swoop! Teleporter and some sort of draw. In case you want to assume that the draw card is not Rocket's Pokéball also determine the odds to draw eighter Dark Slowking or Rocket's Pokéball second turn with them.
Double Rainbow sucks in Dark decks. Be realistic here. The damage you do to yourself with the damage reduction it comes with is much more serious than the minor speed advange which does not even hold true. Also thing about the damage in terms of a more inconsistent performance due to the need to include Rare Candy. Are yu sure you want to take that burdon for a combo which is less likely them the one I proposed? Even worse, itis only of use 50% of the time since a coinflip determines who decides who should start first.
Your hand would need to look like this:
Double Rainbow
Dark Slowking
Rare Candy
Solwpoke
two tools
Calculate the odds of such a hand. Now determine the odds to obtain one out of eight basics in addition to Swoop! Teleporter and some sort of draw. In case you want to assume that the draw card is not Rocket's Pokéball also determine the odds to draw eighter Dark Slowking or Rocket's Pokéball second turn with them.
Double Rainbow sucks in Dark decks. Be realistic here. The damage you do to yourself with the damage reduction it comes with is much more serious than the minor speed advange which does not even hold true. Also thing about the damage in terms of a more inconsistent performance due to the need to include Rare Candy. Are yu sure you want to take that burdon for a combo which is less likely them the one I proposed? Even worse, itis only of use 50% of the time since a coinflip determines who decides who should start first.
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