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dialga G vs. gengar strategy

Dialga (/Alakazam) can easily win against Gengar/Nidoqueen... besides Gengar/Nidoqueen play 1-1 Infernape 4 Tech. It can destroy the matchup immediately.

Gengar decks more than often run Houndoom G, not Infernape, to tech against Dialga G.
 
Actually, you may want to just Use Unown G on Dialga anyways. Why? Because while you stall with it active, they may get smart and start placing counters on Dialga, which gets around Metals and resistance. With Unown G, they don't even have that option. Early game the opponent may have some spare time to play trainers, though.

Just do a little bit of testing, try using E Gain early, then try Unown G early and see which works best for you. I honestly can't say for sure, as I haven't fully tested Dialga myself.

Actually, Unown G comes later. What happens is that a Dialga G player can Energy Gain to deafen lock, preventing a Gengar from coming into existence in the first place. Then once they have two metal energy then can replace the Energy Gain with an Unown G while continuing the Deafen Lock. Mind, this is the whole going second debacle, as a Dialga G deck going first usually ends up Calling so they can spray. I've rarely seen Dialga G players put Unown G players down on Dialga G unless they believed it was in danger of being Taken Out.

Most Dialga G decks don't really care about Shadow Room, really, especially with Bronzong, since if it looks like it'll be knocked out they just Galactic Switch and then Poke Turn to a different Dialga G. It's ungodly annoying, really.

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They do??? 1717171717171717

Are you being sarcastic?
 
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thanks you've all been really helpfull.

so im assuming it would be much smarter to take out snowpoint and add lake boundry (for better machamp matchups w/ my toxicroak)
so now im running
2 hq
1 lake boundry
1 skuntank g
1 toxicroak g

?
 
Gengar pretty much loses to dialga if they run unown g. Even with that, gengar has no other bad matchups and is probably the best deck choice for nats.
 
Actually, Unown G comes later. What happens is that a Dialga G player can Energy Gain to deafen lock, preventing a Gengar from coming into existence in the first place. Then once they have two metal energy then can replace the Energy Gain with an Unown G while continuing the Deafen Lock. Mind, this is the whole going second debacle, as a Dialga G deck going first usually ends up Calling so they can spray. I've rarely seen Dialga G players put Unown G players down on Dialga G unless they believed it was in danger of being Taken Out.

Most Dialga G decks don't really care about Shadow Room, really, especially with Bronzong, since if it looks like it'll be knocked out they just Galactic Switch and then Poke Turn to a different Dialga G. It's ungodly annoying, really.

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Are you being sarcastic?

How on earth can an Energy Gain be replaced for Unown G?
 
nope, ive just never seen a gengar with a tech'd houndoom g

Honestly, I rarely see Gengar players tech for any deck, unless their local metagame is swamped with a particular deck. Though, of all the ones I've tried and seen, Houndoom G is the one I come across the most often and the one that's easiest to set up.

How on earth can an Energy Gain be replaced for Unown G?

He probably meant to replace the Dialga entirely with Bronzong + Poketurn. The new Dialga would have the Unown G.

Yeah, bad explanation on my part, but you guys get the general gist of it.
 
ok i appreciate the help a lot thank you.

quick question; against gengar; if gengar player goes first and uses pitch dark, that prevents me from using energy gain correct???
stoping me from using my T1 deafen, allowing them to have their T2 trainers played ??
I think tools count as trainers so I dont think you can attach energy gain.
 
I run 6 Staduims with 2 Toxicroak G and 1 Stunktank and i have no problem with gengar or machamp
and i run
2 lake boundries( Machamp Dies!!!)
2 Conductive Quarry (You can get SP. Metals back)
2 GHQ (Gengar and other decks)
 
Am I correct in assuming that if Gengar gets knocked out by poison or burn, that fainting spell does not go into effect (because it wasn't knocked out by an attack)?
 
Gengar pretty much loses to dialga if they run unown g. Even with that, gengar has no other bad matchups and is probably the best deck choice for nats.

Except that everyone will have gengar on their radar and gengar is quite easily countered.
So anyone smart will probably just nring a deck that eats gengar (enough unown g / ways to get around f.spell etc)
And if your opponent did their homework there's nothing you can do if you play gengar.
I love having a Magnezone or somthing similar with G and nothing Gengar can target and just watch them not doing anything at all xD
 
Why bother when you can just do poltergeist think about it two for up to like 210 i dont see a downside

Dialga G Lvl X + 4 Special Metals + 20 Resistance to Psychic = -60 to all Poltergeists. Not good.

Am I correct in assuming that if Gengar gets knocked out by poison or burn, that fainting spell does not go into effect (because it wasn't knocked out by an attack)?

Yes. In fact, you could also knock out Gengar using the placing of damage counters, or effects of an attack, such as Jirachi's Doom Desire.
 
Dialga G Lvl X + 4 Special Metals + 20 Resistance to Psychic = -60 to all Poltergeists. Not good.



Yes. In fact, you could also knock out Gengar using the placing of damage counters, or effects of an attack, such as Jirachi's Doom Desire.

yes this is why gengar is bad and diagla is bdif i have been swayed by your arguements sir
 
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