Donphan Prime and Machamp Prime/SF are both cards that can give a luxchomp player trouble and a non-donk for the luxchomp player will usually end in a loss for them. I just thought a thread devoted to the specific strategy could help come up with an optimal list and possible techs for a specific metagame.
My first List looks like so:
4-2-4 Machamp (2 prime/2 SF)
4-3 Donphan Prime
2 Uxie
2-1-2 Nidoqueen
3 Bebe's Search
3 Pokemon Communication
1 Luxury Ball
3 PONT
3 Pokemon Collectors
3 Rare candy
2 BTS
3 Expert Belt
4 DCE
8 :fighting:
3 Warp
Strategy: Try to get a Donphan prime quick and start earthquaking. As your opponent builds up bigger pokemon, put a double colourless on a machamp prime and fighting Tag it to active hitting for 140 as early as turn 3. Setting up a few donphans quick with a machamp should usually give luxchomp enough trouble, saving warp energies to switch out hurt and/or poisoned pokemon. If you get a nidoqueen set up, it should be smooth sailing.
As far as I can tell, this list has good matchups against the XChomp decks, the tyranitar type decks and will usually have an easy time with any non main metagame decks. Against sablelock or donk decks it comes down to whether you set up before they lock you (if you do, you win, if not, they win). And against vilegar it comes down to the fainting spell flips and how trainer heavy your hand is. Lostgar has proven itself to be a hard matchup and usually pulls off the win with only 1-2 prizes left.
Possible thoughts based on metagame. If in a heavy Luxchomp metagame, I feel this is a quite solid list to deal with that. If you are expecting more lostgar, switching out the nidoqueens for a tech or for more basics can move the matchup in your favour (having too many extra stage 1s and 2s in hand is what makes this such a hard matchup).
Thoughts?
My first List looks like so:
4-2-4 Machamp (2 prime/2 SF)
4-3 Donphan Prime
2 Uxie
2-1-2 Nidoqueen
3 Bebe's Search
3 Pokemon Communication
1 Luxury Ball
3 PONT
3 Pokemon Collectors
3 Rare candy
2 BTS
3 Expert Belt
4 DCE
8 :fighting:
3 Warp
Strategy: Try to get a Donphan prime quick and start earthquaking. As your opponent builds up bigger pokemon, put a double colourless on a machamp prime and fighting Tag it to active hitting for 140 as early as turn 3. Setting up a few donphans quick with a machamp should usually give luxchomp enough trouble, saving warp energies to switch out hurt and/or poisoned pokemon. If you get a nidoqueen set up, it should be smooth sailing.
As far as I can tell, this list has good matchups against the XChomp decks, the tyranitar type decks and will usually have an easy time with any non main metagame decks. Against sablelock or donk decks it comes down to whether you set up before they lock you (if you do, you win, if not, they win). And against vilegar it comes down to the fainting spell flips and how trainer heavy your hand is. Lostgar has proven itself to be a hard matchup and usually pulls off the win with only 1-2 prizes left.
Possible thoughts based on metagame. If in a heavy Luxchomp metagame, I feel this is a quite solid list to deal with that. If you are expecting more lostgar, switching out the nidoqueens for a tech or for more basics can move the matchup in your favour (having too many extra stage 1s and 2s in hand is what makes this such a hard matchup).
Thoughts?