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HGSS-on Donchamp Deck please help

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ok we all know how good this deck is and I want to build one before it gets anymore popular/expensive please help me touch up the list :)

pokemon: 19

3-3 Donphan Prime (CL phanpy)
3-3-3 Machamp Prime
4x cleffa HGSS/CL

T/S/S: 23

3x PONT
3x Pokemon Communication
2x Interviewer's Question
3x PETM
2x FSL
2x Dual Ball
2x Energy Retrieval
2x Professor Juniper
4x Switch

Energies: 18

16 Fighting
2 DCE

Strategy:

ok the point is to get Donphan into play on T2 with the awesome Earthquake attack while building up Machamp's Champbuster attack with the recoil.... if Donphan is in trouble then I'll use fighting tag to get him out of there and throw champ in there all ready to attack Switch takes care of my horrible retreat cost on both of my attackers interviewer's question will always let me have enough energies PETM lets me get evolution cards Juniper, PONT, and Dual ball let me geta good hand and the pokemon I need cleffa is my starter and FSL keeps my deck from running dry :3

LMK what you think and tell me how it will do in something like the nationals. Thanks in advance :cool:
 
Energy shouldnt be a problem, so I would lose the Interviewer's Q's. You need Pokemon collector to also get started, if you whiff on the dual balls. Also, they get you pokes to use w. communication. Try to get at least 3 in there, if not 4. You want to get a full bench early game. You can lose the ernergy retrieval too IMO.

Keith
 
Yeah you're definitely not going to need the Energy Retrieval since 16 is... kind of a lot for Donchamp!
- 2 Energy Retrieval
- 2 Dual Ball
- 1 Switch
- 2 Interviewer's Questions

+ 4 Pokemon Collector
+ 1 Pokemon Communication
+ 1 Judge

I don't know why but it feels like you have a lot of clutter and things you don't need in this deck. Drop the Dual Balls, sure they don't take up the supporter for the turn, but it's consistent. That's what every deck needs. Besides, after you dual ball, think, are you really going to Oak or Juniper the hand away most of the time? Not really. Maybe sometimes, but you'll grab 3 basics.

Also bumping up to 4 Pokemon Communications I think will benefit you, switching out Cleffas you get late-game for Machoke or Machamp will be nice! And I suggested Judge for a bit of disruption, most of the time your hand won't be that large while your opponent may have a big one. You don't have to follow my advice, it's just what I suggest ;D
 
ok first off I'd like to thank you guys for posting :)

ok would something like this be better:

pokemon: 19

3-3 Donphan Prime (CL phanpy)
3-3-3 Machamp Prime
4x cleffa HGSS/CL

T/S/S: 23

3x PONT
4x Pokemon Communication
2x Interviewer's Question
3x PETM
2x FSL
2x Professor Juniper
4x Switch
3x pokemon collector

Energies: 18

16 Fighting
2 DCE

I don't want to add judge in fear of Yanmega's poke Body (or power??) even hands is a dangerous thing! I might drop IQ but for what I'm not sure of right now.... opinions?
 
drop to 10 fighting energy, add one more DCE, exchange cleffa for better draw power, i personally use noctowls and it really comes in handy, 2 or 3 cards per turn is nice drawing. switch the dual balls for collectors, max communications and elms, and ponts IMO.

---------- Post added 06/24/2011 at 09:41 PM ----------

just saw the new list after posting LOL let me fix this. still drop to 10 fighting and add 1 dce, noctowl > cleffa in my opinion. 1 more pont and 1 more petm would be good. smeargle/high hp basic for setup round stall. throh is always decent, sudowoodo isnt bad either.
 
ok I'll listen to some of your advice but I don't agree with Noctowl it's a stage one pokemon so it's always going to be at least a T2 attacker while cleffa can attack on T1....... smergle looks nice I might go with that one..... the rest of the pokes look ok and I might use as techs in the future how about this list?:

pokemon: 19

3-3 Donphan Prime (CL phanpy)
3-3-3 Machamp Prime
4x cleffa HGSS/CL

T/S/S: 23

4x PONT
4x Pokemon Communication
2x Interviewer's Question
4x PETM
2x FSL
2x Professor Juniper
4x Switch
3x pokemon collector

Energies: 16

13 Fighting
3 DCE

yeah I'm not sure I want to drop my fighting energy count that low..... and I don't know what to swap for smergle :/
 
cheezytacos said:
take out a cleffa. or switch. i don't even run switches. they're a waste of space in my opinion
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switch is helpful Donphan has a 4 retreat cost and Champ has 3 if I'm in an unfavorable match up I need the switch to get out of there without burning energies (no energy retrievals in this deck :/)
 
I think 1 switch is a good thing in here.

My trainer line runs something like:

2 Collector
3 Dual Ball
4 PONT
1 Copycat
3 Communication
2 Professor Elm's Training Method
2 Junk Arm
3 Reversals
3 Rare Candy
1 Switch
1 Twins

i also play a 2-2 Noctowl line
Noctowl draws you that extra card and also hits for 80 (even OHKOs RDL)

i also run a 4-3-4 Machamp.
The fourth is definitely needed for the Reshiram matchup.

Flower Shop Lady isn't that good anymore. You rarely have a chance as you use to have to get things out again. Getting back a whole line is stupid, although if you get back 1 Machamp and a few fighting energies rather than just playing a 4th Machamp, that's not a terrible idea, but I suspect you won't need the energies back in your deck. Now in this format, instead of refreshing your deck in a deck like this, you just need to run enough of what you need to play (such as playing the 4th Machamp)
 
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Cleffa and donphan dont mix. Earthquake can only be used twice before you give a prize to your opponent. Noctowl is decent, if you want to use him take a shot
 
hmm interesting normally I'd say your crazy (I mean who would run such an expensive card that you have to work so hard to play) but I just recently found out (in like the last 15min) that RDL is a good counter for donchamp so your advice is to counter a counter card?........ what about this list:

pokemon: 21

3-3 Donphan Prime (CL phanpy)
3-3-3 Machamp Prime
2x cleffa HGSS/CL
2-2 Noctowl HGSS

T/S/S: 25

4x PONT
3x Pokemon Communication
2x Interviewer's Question
3x PETM
2x FSL
2x Professor Juniper
3x Switch
3x pokemon collector
3x copycat

Energies: 14

11 Fighting
3 DCE

suggestions anyone?

---------- Post added 06/25/2011 at 11:08 AM ----------

oh whoops didn't see you post sorry lol maybe 3-3 noctowl or what should I do to get rid of cleffa?
 
I'm no master at donchamp being a magniboar player myself, but I agree with the whole 4-3-4 machamp line


Also where's the candy?

Are you trying to hard evolve your machamps? That would be painfully slow.

On the terms of switch I can see one or two but I would also use junk arm, plus power, and reversal.

But in my build I lost draw power for early ko's by using Tyrone and snagging babies early.
 
ok so would something like this be better?:

pokemon: 19

3-3 Donphan Prime (CL phanpy)
3-3-3 Machamp Prime
2-2 Noctowl HGSS

T/S/S: 27

4x PONT
3x Pokemon Communication
2x Interviewer's Question
3x PETM
2x FSL
2x Professor Juniper
3x Switch
3x pokemon collector
3x copycat
2x rare candy

Energies: 14

11 Fighting
3 DCE

hmm to fit everything you guys want me to I'd have to drop something else but what? suggestions anyone?
 
I think the Reuniclus line is too slow even though it works perfectly with machamp :/

also this is my first Machamp Build and my second Donphan build so could anyone give me a exact line of T/S/S that's in a successful Donchamp deck (I'm used to making my T/S/S lines for stuff like ZPS and Reshiboar :/)
 
I think playing 4 Cleffa is soooooo bad in DonChamp...like seriously if you EQ to many times you practically give your opponent a prize! I would cut 2 Cleffa for a 1-1 Zoroark. Zoroark is SOOOOOOOO good in the mirror and vs Reshiboar and random Zekrom decks.
 
would get rid of energy retrieval and 2x of your cleffas. they just take up bench space early on and lead to dead draws late game. also it would suck to accidently KO one with earthquake.

---------- Post added 06/26/2011 at 11:51 AM ----------

also you should put in copycat. its good for going against reshiboar because they often get a pretty large hand with ninetails roast reveal and what not
 
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