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Dragons Exalted Set Speculation

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Fast Ticket wasn't in Dragon Blade/Blast, so getting the Japanese sets as is wouldn't change anything...
 
Technically Hyper Devolution Spray/Devolution Spray isn't a "brand new trainer" since Hyper was released in Neo Destiny and Devo Spray was in Base Set. Probably marketing-speak, though.
 
Frost said:
Fast Ticket wasn't in Dragon Blade/Blast, so getting the Japanese sets as is wouldn't change anything...
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But it was in Dragon Selection, a set that is currently legal and was released before Dragon Blade/Blast.

I realize that players are maybe lower priority when it comes to determining sets, but still. I feel like cards are released when they are for a reason, and game balance is carefully determined by the order of card release. I don't like messing with that.
 
Take out Fast Ticket and my list on the first page is 100% accurate thus far. I'm thinking I have it figured out (Shiny Rayquaza being the only question mark at this moment).
 
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I quite like Lost Zone Master's list, and think it's the most likely that's been posted so far. I'm convinced that we will get most of the cards from Dragon Selection, but not the Dragonite and Haxorus lines. Combined with all the Dragon Pokemon from BW5, that would make 15 Dragon-type Pokemon (and I think 22 Dragon-type cards, not including the full arts or secret rares). That doesn't seem too far fetched at all. If, instead, you cut the Salamence line, Latias and Latios, and the Druddigon, you are only cutting 6 Dragon-type card, compared to the 10 you cut if you cut Haxorus and Dragonite. This seems more likely to me.

I'd be surprised if we didn't see Fast Ticket in this set, however.

EDIT: Actually, I'm now thinking that if you take out the promo Braviary and instead put in Fast Ticket, that's what we'll see in the set.
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I have a bit of a theory behind cutting the Haxorus line. I think it will be released in November because it's been confirmed that Haxorus is in B2W2, so maybe it'll be released to tie in with the games. Plus, I really wanted to include the Eon duo. That's how I got that setlist.
 
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I have a bit of a theory behind cutting the Haxorus line. I think it will be released in November because it's been confirmed that Haxorus is in B2W2, so maybe it'll be released to tie in with the games. Plus, I really wanted to include the Eon duo. That's how I got that setlist.
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Another bit of evidence is that Freeze Bolt/Cold Flare has like, four Dragon types in it. Adding in the Dragon Selection pieces really pumps up that type in the next set we will be getting.
 
I just hope we don't get another EP style set for all the stuff like DS and the National Beginning Set. I doubt it but you never know. However, If ANYTHING from Dragon Selection makes it though, I'm thinking at least Rayquaza and the Bagon line will be in this. Of course, this is assuming that the 15 means the # of Pokemon rather than seperate cards.

I know we won't see all of DS in this set but I have a feeling some stuff will make it in.
 
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I just hope we don't get another EP style set for all the stuff like DS and the National Beginning Set. I doubt it but you never know. However, If ANYTHING from Dragon Selection makes it though, I'm thinking at least Rayquaza and the Bagon line will be in this. Of course, this is assuming that the 15 means the # of Pokemon rather than seperate cards.

I know we won't see all of DS in this set but I have a feeling some stuff will make it in.
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We probably get an EP style of set for the year that Japan releases 3 sets rather than 4. If Japan releases one more set before the year ends, we are most likely to see something similar to Emerging Powers.

Japan sometimes releases 3 sets per year, and sometimes 4. International always has 4 sets per year. So in the tmies when Japan has 3 sets per year, the international version sometimes split an existing Japanese set, like Great Encounters and Majestic Dawn. They also make a brand new set, like EX emerald, or they do reprints, like EX Power Keepers, and Call of Legends. They also take cards not normally in a main set, like HS Unleashed and Emerging Powers, just to make that fourth set in the year, for every time Japan releases 3 sets.

Japan March release is our August Release
Japan July release is our November Release
Japan October Release is our February Release
Japan December Release is our May Release

All these have a margin of error of one month.

So for any Japanese set that isn't released in any of those 4 months, then it is likely we are going to get a reprint set, or a set that is based off cards outside the main set, or the main Japanese set is split into 2 sets for the international release.
 
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^for February release, don't you mean Japan's SEPTEMBER set is that? IIRC, HB/PD was a Sept. release and ND was a February release.

I'm starting to think we will just because how much we're falling behind though unless we get a big set. I mean, BW6 alone is the size of an English set. However, I wasn't aware of that pattern so thanks.
 
We're not really too far behind Japan right now considering BW7 JP will be pretty small. They'll probably shove the National Beginning Set in our February set, and break up Dragon Selection to boost the Dragon card numbers over the next couple of sets.
 
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We're not really too far behind Japan right now considering BW7 JP will be pretty small. They'll probably shove the National Beginning Set in our February set, and break up Dragon Selection to boost the Dragon card numbers over the next couple of sets.
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I could see that. Splitting it between Dragons Exalted, BW6 and BW7 is possible. I still think some of DS minus Rayquaza(assuming it will be in there) will make it Dragons Exalted. My guess is at least Druddigon and/or the Bagon line. They might save the Eon duo for November since that set correspondes with BW2(I think) and the Eon duo is avaliable in the games IIRC.
 
Via Pokebeach's new update, we now know Milotic is #28, Registeel-EX is #81 and Altaria is #84.

So I guess they really dropped most, if not all, of Dragon Selection. We're looking at:

81 - Registeel-EX
82 - Probopass
83 - Durant
84 - Altaria
85 - Rayquaza-EX
86 - Gible
87 - Gible
88 - Gabite
89 - Gabite
90 - Garchomp
91 - Garchomp
92 - Giratina-EX
Deino
Deino
Zweilous
Zweilous
Hydreigon
Hydreigon

Add in the FA EX cards, and there are our 15+ Dragon-type cards right there. >_>
 
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^for February release, don't you mean Japan's SEPTEMBER set is that? IIRC, HB/PD was a Sept. release and ND was a February release.

I'm starting to think we will just because how much we're falling behind though unless we get a big set. I mean, BW6 alone is the size of an English set. However, I wasn't aware of that pattern so thanks.
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I did say "a margin of error of one month".

This Bulbapedia page shows the list of the Japanese and English release dates, and you could sort of see a pattern here, especially for the later sets.

So when Japan doesn't release a set in a 6ish month gap, expect us to get a filler set. Hey, bad cards are better than no cards, right?

I also don't know if this is true for Pokemon, but for Magic, they used to alternate releasing 4 sets and 3 sets every other year. They decided to release an extra set, when they were supposed to release 3 sets, because Hasbro, the company who bought WOTC, wanted an equal annual revenue, or that's what I heard, and since the times they release 3 sets generated them less revenue, then that means that they aren't making a significant amount of money compared to the years they released 4 sets. Hence why we have stuff like Coldsnap, Eventide, and core sets every year from 2009 to present.

Even Yugioh as well. I think they are pretty much releasing the same amount of product every year. 4 main boosters, 2, now 3 structures, 1 starter, 2 special editions, 2 hidden arsenals, 2 other packs (last year was duelist pack yusei and crow, and this year it is ra yellow mega pack and battle pack) small tin, 2 waves of large tins, gold series, and legendary collection.

So it is safe to say they are releasing filler sets like EX Power Keepers, HS Unleashed, Call of Legends, and BW Emerging Powers in order to have every year have the same number of product released, so they can compare sales to the previous year. Japan also has decaded releases for their beginning sets, starter decks, and are not really tied to a particular expansion, as the starter decks don't specifically take cards from that expansion. So a 6 month main set break could mean that Japan is releasing a supplementary product, and not a main booster set.

Then I don't know how TPCi does these things.
 
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signofzeta said:
I did say "a margin of error of one month".

This Bulbapedia page shows the list of the Japanese and English release dates, and you could sort of see a pattern here, especially for the later sets.

So when Japan doesn't release a set in a 6ish month gap, expect us to get a filler set. Hey, bad cards are better than no cards, right?

I also don't know if this is true for Pokemon, but for Magic, they used to alternate releasing 4 sets and 3 sets every other year. They decided to release an extra set, when they were supposed to release 3 sets, because Hasbro, the company who bought WOTC, wanted an equal annual revenue, or that's what I heard, and since the times they release 3 sets generated them less revenue, then that means that they aren't making a significant amount of money compared to the years they released 4 sets. Hence why we have stuff like Coldsnap, Eventide, and core sets every year from 2009 to present.

Even Yugioh as well. I think they are pretty much releasing the same amount of product every year. 4 main boosters, 2, now 3 structures, 1 starter, 2 special editions, 2 hidden arsenals, 2 other packs (last year was duelist pack yusei and crow, and this year it is ra yellow mega pack and battle pack) small tin, 2 waves of large tins, gold series, and legendary collection.

So it is safe to say they are releasing filler sets like EX Power Keepers, HS Unleashed, Call of Legends, and BW Emerging Powers in order to have every year have the same number of product released, so they can compare sales to the previous year. Japan also has decaded releases for their beginning sets, starter decks, and are not really tied to a particular expansion, as the starter decks don't specifically take cards from that expansion. So a 6 month main set break could mean that Japan is releasing a supplementary product, and not a main booster set.

Then I don't know how TPCi does these things.
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Pokemon releases a set every quarter in regions outside of Japan. Sets in regions outside of Japan tend to get a little mixed up as a result since often the sets are tied into different things Pokemon is doing at the time, namely new generations, or movies, and their release dates don't always concur with TPCi's schedules since they're handles by different companies. We tend to wind up with filler sets when there's dead space in the schedule due to that, or as you pointed out a delay in Japan's schedule, and we often wind up with a lot of promos (and other material) as a result in a set like EP. This often results in weird proportioning of high rarity cards like EXs since we can't really have a set without them

As far as next set is concerned, since BW2 is due before the set, and we haven't received word on the next movie, I'd imagine we'll end up with a lot CF/FB to be either end up in one giant set like Supreme Victors, with Keldeo and Meloetta related material bumped back, and have them in our next set (possibly with the new Keldeo combo set stuff) pushed back to the subsequent set, or we'll wind up with the set broken up between two full sets with Promos sprinkled in.

TLDR: Pokemon has to tie in with movies and games resulting in a sometimes confusing release pattern.
 
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P!P has nothing to do with product releases. They only manage the organized play section of the Pokemon franchise.

TPCi is who should get the credit for product releases.
 
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