Pokémon TCG: Sword and Shield—Brilliant Stars

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Infinito said:
You seem to really like to downtrod Slowking decks but you would be surprised to know that Slowking decks are as fast as any other T1KO decks with first turn 60 max. I used to have a slowking deck and it works better than most other kinds of decks. The only reason i changed to dragtrode was that dratini looks really cute and all.....
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my experience w/ slowking decks is that they run out of steam to be able to win against anything other than cham. it has to be able to ko psy-weak pokes or anything w/ 80 hp MAX to get a prize in one turn to be able to not get ohko'd, unless u run energy root AND rocket's hideout. it flops to ludi, zre, smp, queen, zappy, dragtrode, and metanite simply because it can't ohko anything other than non-ex basics. i know slowking decks are fast, but they don't have enough staying power to be able to last a whole against most popular decks.
 
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it can ohko anything in dragtorde but sneasel (unless it has a dark on it).

energy root doesn't go on dark pokemon.

try to use better a better slowking deck.

it's not unbeteable but it's still a good competitive deck!
 
mrdraz07 said:
my experience w/ slowking decks is that they run out of steam to be able to win against anything other than cham. it has to be able to ko psy-weak pokes or anything w/ 80 hp MAX to get a prize in one turn to be able to not get ohko'd, unless u run energy root AND rocket's hideout. it flops to ludi, zre, smp, queen, zappy, dragtrode, and metanite simply because it can't ohko anything other than non-ex basics. i know slowking decks are fast, but they don't have enough staying power to be able to last a whole against most popular decks.
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then i'm afraid you hardly used that kind of deck as you need to practise using that deck before you get used to it and learn its tactics as this deck if used properly it could be deadly. I was able to use my slowking/dark slowking deck to pummel ludi, queen and drew with SMP
 
Infinito said:
then i'm afraid you hardly used that kind of deck as you need to practise using that deck before you get used to it and learn its tactics as this deck if used properly it could be deadly. I was able to use my slowking/dark slowking deck to pummel ludi, queen and drew with SMP
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the matter of the fact is that slowking is one deck. why should one player be worried about what possibly 1-4 other players are going to tech against him? if his entire metagame decided that slowking would be the best deck to play, he should probably reconsider. but you yourself said that u need to "get used to it." a lot of players go by an archetype build of a deck and play it w/ no playtesting. most popular decks (ludi, queen, SMP, cham) can do that very easily. less popular decks such as slowking fare poorly if not fine-tuned for the player and metagame. i myself would be more worried about the more popular decks unless there is an obvious sign that the metagame has found a version of a less popular deck that is very good. in this case, slowking is a deck that is very dependent on build and playstyle. so, ky00ber the III should scan the metagame and see just how many slowking decks ppl are playing. if 20% or more of the player base is playing it, s/he should stay away from playing cham. if 1-5 players are playing it, s/he should playtest against it and be prepared.

that's just the way you play the metagame :wink:
 
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the matter of the fact is that slowking is one deck. why should one player be worried about what possibly 1-4 other players are going to tech against him? if his entire metagame decided that slowking would be the best deck to play, he should probably reconsider. but you yourself said that u need to "get used to it." a lot of players go by an archetype build of a deck and play it w/ no playtesting. most popular decks (ludi, queen, SMP, cham) can do that very easily. less popular decks such as slowking fare poorly if not fine-tuned for the player and metagame. i myself would be more worried about the more popular decks unless there is an obvious sign that the metagame has found a version of a less popular deck that is very good. in this case, slowking is a deck that is very dependent on build and playstyle. so, ky00ber the III should scan the metagame and see just how many slowking decks ppl are playing. if 20% or more of the player base is playing it, s/he should stay away from playing cham. if 1-5 players are playing it, s/he should playtest against it and be prepared.

that's just the way you play the metagame :wink:
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So your point being that slowking decks are lousy ONLY because they are not "popular" and not "widely" used in the "metagame" am I right? Also, no, there are also many players who playtest using archetype decks and not simply copy strategies wholesale and using them straightaway like Ky00ber himself and many others i know from email, daily life and penpal-ing- they practice till they use the deck efficiently enough.
 
Infinito said:
So your point being that slowking decks are lousy ONLY because they are not "popular" and not "widely" used in the "metagame" am I right?
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no, ur wrong. i never said that slowking is bad because it's not popular, i never said that slowking is bad! i only said that slowking is not popular. so, ky00ber shouldn't be so hot 'n bothered about playing cham when a small group of players decides to play the deck. unless u have some slowking-based revolution planned for ur cities, it is perfectly ok for ky00ber to play cham. all i was trying to do was defend his decision to play the deck that he wants to. he even said "cities won't be full of 'em."
 
Well, slowking loses to everything but Turn 2 even if you play it right... Well, unless the person behind the slowking is rokman, then you're dead. That guy KNOWS how to play slowking. No mewtwo d, that's just a misplay right there. just use Moss's list, it's the best, and most well planned out medi I've ever seen.
 
mrdraz07 said:
no, ur wrong. i never said that slowking is bad because it's not popular, i never said that slowking is bad! i only said that slowking is not popular. so, ky00ber shouldn't be so hot 'n bothered about playing cham when a small group of players decides to play the deck. unless u have some slowking-based revolution planned for ur cities, it is perfectly ok for ky00ber to play cham. all i was trying to do was defend his decision to play the deck that he wants to. he even said "cities won't be full of 'em."
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If i am wrong kindly justify "my experience
/ slowking decks is that they run out of steam to be able to win against anything other than cham. it has to be able to ko psy-weak pokes or anything w/ 80 hp MAX to get a prize in one turn to be able to not get ohko'd, unless u run energy root AND rocket's hideout. it flops to ludi, zre, smp, queen, zappy, dragtrode, and metanite simply because it can't ohko anything other than non-ex basics. i know slowking decks are fast, but they don't have enough staying power to be able to last a whole against most popular decks."
 
blastoise1992 said:
Yea slowking kills cham but anything reasonable (not random crap) kills king.
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Are you sure you used the deck before or are you just saying it because you don't like it for the fact that it counters your deck?
 
Shiloh Phoenix said:
Well, slowking loses to everything but Turn 2 even if you play it right... Well, unless the person behind the slowking is rokman, then you're dead. That guy KNOWS how to play slowking. No mewtwo d, that's just a misplay right there. just use Moss's list, it's the best, and most well planned out medi I've ever seen.
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Anybody who practises enough is a fine example of "rokman" you know!
 
quadruple posting. w00t!
Now, this thread is outdated, lol. I'm trying to get cards to be near Moss's list.

Infinito, if you think you are so great, go get apprentice and see if you beat them. Simple.

If they can beat you, well then.
 
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Infinito, if you think you are so great, go get apprentice and see if you beat them. Simple.
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Ky00ber the III, if you think you are so great, go get apprentice and see if you beat them. Simple.
If dey can beat u, well then.
 
Infinito said:
blastoise1992 said:
Uhh what is obvious?
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That Cham is going to win It kills both the other decks you listed.

Now I don't think Slowking sucks because its a couter to my deck. I mean if slowking counters IMO the best deck in the format good for slowking! But It sucks because it sooo weak really ithas like no HP most thinks get OHKO while slowking only gets 2HKOs. JMO
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